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T
I beg to differ. Primary task of the thief is to steal. Besides what sort of a thief will show up with a trumpet blast and announce his coming?! Moreover, elsewhere we read in Matthew 24
[SUP]43 [/SUP]But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. [SUP]44 [/SUP]So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
So unless one keeps watch, the house will be broken into and things will be stolen.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. [SUP]44 [/SUP]So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
So unless one keeps watch, the house will be broken into and things will be stolen.
One of the most shocking and unexpected things I ever experienced was having God unmistakably reveal Himself to me. It was upsetting, and disturbing. I was set against God, and resisted. I did not want to believe He really existed. I had been seeking spiritual truth for years, but when it came right down to it, I was not looking for God. God knows the lost are not seeking Him. However traumatizing, it was as if the question were put to me once and for all: would I believe? In my own power, of my own self, governed by my desires in the natural self and according to the flesh which is enmity to God, I could not. I needed to be spiritually circumcised.
G
The Lord is not a thief. You beg to differ with this: "NOTHING! The words are figurative for coming unannounced and unexpected."
The trumpet sounding means there is danger. The army is approaching the city. Think of it as a house alarm. You're in bed asleep. Then beep beep beep beep. Intruder. So it is with the day of the Lord.
Or a trumpet sound can serve as announcement of the arrival of a dignitary.
Either way, the Lord is NOT a thief. To ask what will He steal is to suggest the Lord can sin.
The trumpet sounding means there is danger. The army is approaching the city. Think of it as a house alarm. You're in bed asleep. Then beep beep beep beep. Intruder. So it is with the day of the Lord.
Or a trumpet sound can serve as announcement of the arrival of a dignitary.
Either way, the Lord is NOT a thief. To ask what will He steal is to suggest the Lord can sin.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 7:27 (KJV)
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Matthew 7:25 (KJV)
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Matthew 24:39 (KJV)
And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Luke 17:27 (KJV)
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage,
until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 7:27 (KJV)
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Matthew 7:25 (KJV)
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Matthew 24:39 (KJV)
And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Luke 17:27 (KJV)
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage,
until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
K
He is not going to steal nothing !!!
Jesus is comparing His seconding coming to a thief in the night, as just like a thief comes in your house to rob you when you are not awake and aware of this happening; His second coming will be at a time when some will not be prepared for it, and when He comes and finds some not doing His will they will be appointed with the unbelievers for their disobedience (Luke 12:43-46).
Jesus is comparing His seconding coming to a thief in the night, as just like a thief comes in your house to rob you when you are not awake and aware of this happening; His second coming will be at a time when some will not be prepared for it, and when He comes and finds some not doing His will they will be appointed with the unbelievers for their disobedience (Luke 12:43-46).
3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers,
walking after their own lusts,
4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep,
all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old,
and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store,
reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with
the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
walking after their own lusts,
4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep,
all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old,
and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store,
reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with
the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
G
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Everything belongs to Him in the first place
But I think He can remove things from us without our express permission, such as when he casts out demons. I realize most people would not be able to relate to that in a literal sense.
Everything belongs to Him in the first place
But I think He can remove things from us without our express permission, such as when he casts out demons. I realize most people would not be able to relate to that in a literal sense.
T
The Lord cannot sin. But He will steal the garments, "Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame." Obviously, these are not literal garments. And I am not suggesting that He will steal physical things as these are of no interest to Him.
But Jesus is still called a "thief" in that passage, though (Otherwise it would not make any sense). Yes, Jesus is not a thief in the traditional sense as we understand a "thief." That is what the passage is saying. For a traditional thief comes to steal your stuff, and kill you and to destroy your life. Jesus comes to steal people's hearts. Jesus comes to set the captives free and give them a new life. A life where they are not enslaved to sin but a slave to righteousness.
Jesus is saying watch and be ready. How can you be ready? Is it just believing harder that Jesus is your Savior while you continue in sin? No. Being ready means be faithful to Jesus in how you live according to His Word (By allowing Jesus to do the good work in you).
So when Jesus will come like a thief in the night, he is going to remove the faithful believer from the unfaithful believer. He is going to steal away the fellowship that the unfaithful believer had with the faithful believer. The faithful believer is going to be stolen away from them; And the unfaithful believer will be left behind (without their faithful brothers and sisters). Why? Because they were not ready. They did not have enough oil in their lamps.
Jesus is saying watch and be ready. How can you be ready? Is it just believing harder that Jesus is your Savior while you continue in sin? No. Being ready means be faithful to Jesus in how you live according to His Word (By allowing Jesus to do the good work in you).
So when Jesus will come like a thief in the night, he is going to remove the faithful believer from the unfaithful believer. He is going to steal away the fellowship that the unfaithful believer had with the faithful believer. The faithful believer is going to be stolen away from them; And the unfaithful believer will be left behind (without their faithful brothers and sisters). Why? Because they were not ready. They did not have enough oil in their lamps.
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