Trump could win all 50 states

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Viligant_Warrior said:
Which is why Carson beats Trumps hands down 1-on-1. People don't want a reality-show/circus candidate. They want a solid candidate who has answers. Your clown-candidate has nothing but one-liners and soundbites. No substance. No plan. No clue.

And if you think that adds up to Trump, you haven't listened to anything from him but his "You're fired!" B/S that means absolutely nothing in the greater scheme of things.

People who have heard both Trump and Carson and given them equal consideration prefer Carson. Get used to it.
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I REPEAT FOR THE LAST TIME, I do not want TRUMP to be President; but he seems to be the one called to wake up the Republican Party to the fact that they have NOT been listening to will of their VOTERS for a very long time.

"We the People have Awakened, and we are going to VOTE you out of here!"
 
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I REPEAT FOR THE LAST TIME, I do not want TRUMP to be President; but he seems to be the one called to wake up the Republican Party to the fact that they have NOT been listening to will of their VOTERS for a very long time.

"We the People have Awakened, and we are going to VOTE you out of here!"
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Then you have to vote them out of Congress. Lol, this presidential election isn't about voting anyone out. Obama is forced to resign by his term limits. This election is rather about who be best to be voted in. Oldest reality TV show in America, still early in the season.
 
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Then you have to vote them out of Congress. Lol, this presidential election isn't about voting anyone out. Obama is forced to resign by his term limits. This election is rather about who be best to be voted in. Oldest reality TV show in America, still early in the season.
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GEE, what does it take to get myself understood. YES the Demoncrats got to go; BUT SO DO SOME REPUBLICANS who are more concerned about getting re-elected, than doing what NEEDS to be done, to pull this nation back from TOTAL collapse like the Roman Empire.
 
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Which is why Carson beats Trumps hands down 1-on-1. People don't want a reality-show/circus candidate. They want a solid candidate who has answers. Your clown-candidate has nothing but one-liners and soundbites. No substance. No plan. No clue.

And if you think that adds up to Trump, you haven't listened to anything from him but his "You're fired!" B/S that means absolutely nothing in the greater scheme of things.

People who have heard both Trump and Carson and given them equal consideration prefer Carson. Get used to it.
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Let's try this again.

READ Donald Trump on Immigration

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/images/...form-Trump.pdf

Is this specific enough for you or will you be sarcastically critical once again?
 
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Let's try this again.

READ Donald Trump on Immigration

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/images/...form-Trump.pdf

Is this specific enough for you or will you be sarcastically critical once again?
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One, check your link, as it doesn't work. Going to Trump's website, I managed to find it here -- quite easily, actually, since he's only got one position linked under his "Positions" tab. Where is tax reform, foreign policy, welfare reform, the military? Oh, right -- he doesn't mention them except in quickly passing over them, because that would require actually knowing what he's talking about. His appearance on Hugh Hewitt's radio program proved that he's clueless. All this together lends support to my contention that he is a one-issue candidate with nine-second soundbites for answers.

Now let's look at what he said in his "immigration reform 'policy statement' ":

He starts out with what he calls three "principles":

  • A nation without borders is not a nation.
  • A nation without laws is not a nation.
  • A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation.
Wonderful one-liners. Principles? Pffft. Principles define a belief system or concept. While I agree with every single one of those statements, I can't name anyone who wouldn't. In the context of a position paper, they are meaningless.

He finally makes a solid plan-of-action statement in saying "Make Mexico pay for the wall." He's been saying that since his announcement speech. He includes several links to government reports and media releases detailing how Mexico aids and abets illegal immigration, the impact of illegal immigration on jobs, and the well-known aspect of illegal immigration impacting crime, because many of the illegals are criminals. Again, nothing new here -- and also no answers.

Finally, he gets to an actual plan: Pay for the wall by increasing fees and tariffs on various visa and visiting-worker permits. Great. A plan!

A plan that is a total failure. Best estimates for the cost of a wall come out to $6.4 billion. That's just the construction cost. We would spend another $2 billion a year to maintain and secure such a wall. Ad infinitum for all practical purposes. Not accounting for inflation.

Doubling those visa and permit fees immediately would indeed raise $6.4 billion -- in 18 years. In other words, it's a total failure, like I said. That doesn't even take into account his foot-in-mouth statement that he's going to "deport all the illegals." Whether there are only 11 million of them, as the government avers, or 30 million, as alarmists claim -- the truth lying somewhere in the middle, no doubt -- it will cost trillions and take a lifetime to accomplish, clogging dockets to the point that nothing else happens at the federal court level forevermore.

The rest of his "plan" is a rehash of things the other GOP candidates from Ben Carson and Jeb Bush to Rand Paul (yes, Rand Paul) have been saying for at least a year before the clown-candidate got into the race. More ICE officers. Hell, even Obama said we should do that. Mandatory deportation for all felon illegals -- duh. Defund sanctuary cities. There's already legislation in the House to do that.

He's got two original ideas: Cooperate with local police department gang interdiction units. The number of llegals that will identify is probably better than we get now, but it will still be a drop in the bucket. The other is essentially the repeal of the Fourteenth Amendment. That's the only way we're going to end so-called birthright citizenship, which has been a founding tenet of U.S. civil and immigration law since 1790. It won't happen, nor should it.

Now, go to Ben Carson's "Issues" page. Look how many issues he has established non-nonsense, well-thought-out positions on. Click on any of them. You'll see a comprehensive outline of what he will actually do if elected. No extraneous links to irrelevant crap. Just statements: "This is what I will do."

Trump has nothing, is nothing, knows nothing.

Any other questions?
 
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GEE, what does it take to get myself understood. YES the Demoncrats got to go; BUT SO DO SOME REPUBLICANS who are more concerned about getting re-elected, than doing what NEEDS to be done, to pull this nation back from TOTAL collapse like the Roman Empire.
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Lol I understand that. My point though is Obama is packing his bags and going home either way, so the point of this cycle's presidential race isn't making anyone go, but picking who is best to come. For who to have go, that is what the Congress races and other races shall be about. Still too early in the cycle for that part of the show, over which party will soon control the Congress and the various high profile Congress contests, but that too will come soon. Trump pertains to the presidential race.
 
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Lol I understand that. My point though is Obama is packing his bags and going home either way, so the point of this cycle's presidential race isn't making anyone go, but picking who is best to come. For who to have go, that is what the Congress races and other races shall be about. Still too early in the cycle for that part of the show, over which party will soon control the Congress and the various high profile Congress contests, but that too will come soon. Trump pertains to the presidential race.
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Want to know where I think Obama is going after his Presidency? I think he is going to move to France, to establish Citizenship requirements, to run for President of the European Union.
 
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Want to know where I think Obama is going after his Presidency? I think he is going to move to France, to establish Citizenship requirements, to run for President of the European Union.
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Lol probably one of the funniest Obama conspiracy theories I've heard of yet.

I think he'll just go in some retirement, maybe be quiet for a while like Bush then resurface for whatever particular cause he decides to champion and to appear now and then on TV to defend his so-called legacy like all the former presidents before him. Who knows though? TV and all that stuff and America itself may not even be around by then. We shall see.
 
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ALL OF US Are Immigrants with the exception of Native Americans who walking across the Bering Straits, many centuries before the European Immigration began. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE we are Talking about those who came LEGALLY, and those who BROKE LAWS to SNEAK IN. What part of ILLEGAL is so hard for some people to understand.

My ancestry is Bohemian, English, Scotts/Irish, and German
 
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I just hope Trump is the real deal. As a former democrat and Clinton supporter Trump has me a little concerned. I really wonder what he's after.
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If you think ANY politician is the "real deal"...

I'll pray for your soul.
 
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If you think ANY politician is the "real deal"...

I'll pray for your soul.
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Any American who is prepared to run for president should automatically, by definition, be disqualified from ever doing so.

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Marrying hot, Eastern European models is a pillar of the American Dream!
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It's my understanding that the elite have shifted from the european chicks to young asian eye candy. Lol
 
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Has anyone else noticed that almost EVERY LEGAL IMMIGRANT takes the time and effort, to LEARN ENGLISH, but NOT SO with the Illegals.
 
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Has anyone else noticed that almost EVERY LEGAL IMMIGRANT takes the time and effort, to LEARN ENGLISH, but NOT SO with the Illegals.
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I've met no illegal immigrants and I don't know how one could possibly get accurate stats on this.

English or no English, an illegal immigrant is still an illegal immigrant. Just ask the Irish illegals.
 
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I've met no illegal immigrants and I don't know how one could possibly get accurate stats on this.

English or no English, an illegal immigrant is still an illegal immigrant. Just ask the Irish illegals.
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You have never lived in California, I presume.

I was a Volunteer Protestant Prison Chaplain there, and over a 15 year period, I ministered to a lot of inmates every week, and those who spoke NO ENGLISH, were almost ALWAYS also illegal immigrants.
 
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