"God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

[ukok102nak]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

There will be time that we will be
( if not us maybe the next generation . ... :dontknow: only God knows)
cheated be caused of the false doctrine

:smoke: that is why we must endure everything to learn the truth which are written from
The holy scripture and share them to everyone especially our love ones :happy:
`∞` is it nice to be with our love ones when everyone has their chance to meet them in heaven as it is promised by
our lord god the father almighty creator of heavens and earth . ...

 

[KohenMatt]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

There is is no such thing as "keeping" the Law "imperfectly".

Perhaps a better way to say it would be that we can follow specific laws, but we cannot keep them perfectly all the time.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Perhaps a better way to say it would be that we can follow specific laws, but we cannot keep them perfectly all the time.

There is no such thing as "laws". There is only the "Law".

There is no such thing as "keeping" the Law by not keeping it perfectly all the time.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Note that Jesus says: Keep MY commandments, NOT the requirement of the Law.

Unfortunately, some think the words of Moses are the words of Christ. Apparently, they don't remember or recognize that GOD said he would send another prophet after Moses who would speak other words. If GOD was going to speak the same words as Moses why would he send another prophet?

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Deuteronomy 18:18-19​

 

[ukok102nak]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

:smoke: and we thought it was him :rofl:
but that guy (it takes a lot of guts while preaching along the streets as they say) was perfect from our point of view . ...

:smoke: Its juz an opinion hope we don't mess around here
for our thoughts can be mistaken sometimes as self righteous
But were not blaming anyone here my brothers and sisters :happy:

We have our own lapses too and we admit that
as sinners also . ...

Godbless to all (believers and non believers)
:ty:

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

It was the written ordinances that were abolished and done away with because they brought death instead of life, because our flesh is weak. Apostle Paul clearly shows this in Romans 7:10, as it was not a failure of the law, the failure falls on us and our fleshly disobedience.

The WHOLE law is written ordinances. The 10 commandments are what bring death.

For [Christ] is our peace, who has made both [Jew and gentile] one, destroying the middle wall of the barrier, the enmity, in his flesh; having abolished the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that of the two he should make in himself one new man, so making peace. Ephesians 2:14-15​

By the Spirit we are given a better easier set of standards to uphold that the Holy Spirit will help us to continue in because of the fruit that He will work in us to abide by.

So is this the mindset of law keepers? Marginalize the wickedness of transgressing the law by lowering the bar of righteousness so that it's not so hard to attain? This is essentially blasphemy. No, we are not given an easier set of standards. We are given grace and faith so as to be saved from wrath that is rightfully ours for having broken GOD's law.

 

[Utah]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

The street preacher was correct. Jesus stated these things as well. I suppose that you will join in with purposely having people banned that believe the whole bible?

What prompted you to say the bold statement?

 

[KennethC]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

The WHOLE law is written ordinances. The 10 commandments are what bring death.

For [Christ] is our peace, who has made both [Jew and gentile] one, destroying the middle wall of the barrier, the enmity, in his flesh; having abolished the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that of the two he should make in himself one new man, so making peace. Ephesians 2:14-15​

So is this the mindset of law keepers? Marginalize the wickedness of transgressing the law by lowering the bar of righteousness so that it's not so hard to attain? This is essentially blasphemy. No, we are not given an easier set of standards. We are given grace and faith so as to be saved from wrath that is rightfully ours for having broken GOD's law.

Again you show you are not rightly dividing the Word of God, because even in the scripture you bring up it shows as you even underlined "contained in ordinances."

It does not say the moral aspect was done away, just the written ordinance form !!!

 

[Biblelogic01]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Why can't you hear Acts 15:10-11?

What about Acts 15:18-21?

This is the way I see Act 15:1-21. . . .

There was a group a Pharisees that were chastizing gentiles for not being circumcised once they came to Christ.
Then the disciples quote scripture.
And then state basically to tell new comers in Christ obstain from idols, sexual immorality, things strangled, and blood.
Now after stating this, even though the grammar is weird on it, Peter is saying have them go to synagouge on the Sabbath where they are teaching Moses (a.k.a Torah).

So basically he's saying give the gentiles that are converting over baby steps into Christ and not throw the whole book at them.

 

[KohenMatt]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

There is no such thing as "laws". There is only the "Law".

There is no such thing as "keeping" the Law by not keeping it perfectly all the time.

God refers to keeping individual "laws" all throughout Scripture.
And yes, you can follow a law while not doing it perfectly every time.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Perhaps a better way to say it would be that we can follow specific laws, but we cannot keep them perfectly all the time.

to me It is still excusing sin, and still saying the law is no longer valid.

A better things would be to say love others, and love God, do not seek to serve self. and while you are doing this. you will not break any of Gods commands..

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

What about Acts 15:18-21?

This is the way I see Act 15:1-21. . . .

There was a group a Pharisees that were chastizing gentiles for not being circumcised once they came to Christ.
Then the disciples quote scripture.
And then state basically to tell new comers in Christ obstain from idols, sexual immorality, things strangled, and blood.
Now after stating this, even though the grammar is weird on it, Peter is saying have them go to synagouge on the Sabbath where they are teaching Moses (a.k.a Torah).

So basically he's saying give the gentiles that are converting over baby steps into Christ and not throw the whole book at them.

Acts 15:18-21 refers to some of the Noahide laws that Jews at that time believed righteous gentiles were to live under. James' decree insured that gentiles who depended upon the synagogues for access to the scriptures wouldn't offend their Jewish hosts. Bibles weren't universally available back then as they are today. btw, one of the items was to avoid food offered to idols; it doesn't say idol worship. Food offered to idols was a big part of the Greek culture back then and would have been offensive to the Jews. To the Christian it shouldn't matter.

 

[MarcR]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

n ἀgapate with entolas keep tas tas emas
:rofl: but we can't keep them as humans so we put it in our heart and soul
our hearts belongs to our lord god the only begotten son and
Our soul belongs to our lord god the father almighty who is good and it is impossible for him to lie . ...

this is an example of the things to come . ...
for we humans cannot fight which we cannot defeat . ... ( perhaps not without giving a fight :rofl: )

please correct us if we are wrong :ty:

ukok,

With no disrespect intended, are you writing to communicate, or to fill space. I honestly can't tell.

 

[ukok102nak]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Titus: 3. 1. Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
≈ WE THOUGHT THAT THIS LAW IS ONE THE LAW THAT
OUR LORD CHRIST JESUS IS TELLING US TO KEEP ALSO
EVEN THIS LAW WAS "A MAN MADE LAW"
MADE TO BROUGHT JUSTICE AND HARMONY TO PEOPLE
WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNTRY
IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN PEACE AND ORDER

Mark: 10. 42. But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

Matthew: 4. 14. That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
15. The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles;
16. The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.
BY THE WAY WHAT AND WHO ARE
TO BE CALLED GENTILES (as we considered ourselves as one of them)
ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES? ≈

:smoke: thank you very much :happy:

 

[ukok102nak]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

ukok,

With no disrespect intended, are you writing to communicate, or to fill space. I honestly can't tell.

No sir, no physical fighting not all
one of our brethren told us to write it down
and the truth is we never know
what comes after those writings :sigh:
Please we beg for your indulgence.

:smoke: thank you very much :happy:

 

[PeterJens]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Discussion of these complex ideas has fallen down a bit, because both sides appear to be saying the same thing, but with different words. Is it possible two people can say the same thing, but with different words?

Imagine a simple idea. I do a good work, help someone get lunch. Now I could be motivated by selfish influence, obligation or I could be empowered by the love I have for that person given to me by God or because a command says I must.

Now it is me doing the action, it is not God. I could say it is God through me because of His love working in my heart. This is what I believe is happening. I am not doing it in the flesh. Now I could be doing because of the letter of the law, but I doubt that because the letter, it is not that specific. What I am emphasising is love changes us, empowers us, makes things possible which without love would just dry up.

To say this is not Jesus's work in us, makes me wonder what gospel you have believed. You can end up with a language saying any action by a believer is a work of the flesh, which at its base is rubbish, because then christians cannot do anything, which is actually heresy. Now when you look at the commands of Jesus, you find His love working in us makes it possible. We are not talking about the Mosaic law, but what Paul talk of as righteousness. This is not detailed to avoid the letter of the law being practised, rather the reality of love at work from the heart.

Now is this not what the bible teaches. Is this not the language you have all signed up to? It appears to be.
Now some may want to link this to the Mosaic law as a shadow, but their emphasis is we are called to be righteous, and not to the letter. That is certainly my emphasis, though I am interested in exploring how the two link. Saying people are not believers one way or another is just bad understanding of ideas written down.

 

[atwhatcost]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Nope. Thats your flesh. Faith says "I can't, only Christ can" and then rests in Him. That does not result in inactivity, but rather Christ's activity. Christ in action accomplishing divine purposes through us. Which is the only activity that has eternal value.

Then we are not brothers. At least I know where fellowship ends.

 

[ukok102nak]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Titus: 3. 1. Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
≈ WE THOUGHT THAT THIS LAW IS ONE
WITH THE LAW THAT
OUR LORD CHRIST JESUS IS TELLING US TO KEEP ALSO
EVEN THIS LAW WAS "A MAN MADE LAW"
MADE TO BROUGHT JUSTICE AND HARMONY TO PEOPLE
WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNTRY
IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN PEACE AND ORDER

And MarcR sir, as we've said before no physical fighting at all
that's all we know from now and aside from this everything is juz a puzzle :sigh:

my goodness we are not puzzle masters but just an ordinary citizens a civilian and not even a civilian employee :rofl:

we us they really do a what those people call relaxation thing
by "don't just smile, laugh by all means"
Specially in a time like this which we cannot support the things that was been told to us because it was been sealed . ...

 

[atwhatcost]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

There are many teachings in the New Testament instructing us to good works. Faith without works is dead. Thus as I have repeatedly posted while God is working in us to perfect us, on His day He will have completed HIs work. Meanwhile we are to show our gratitude in many ways, many works, and the first one is to do our best, that is to try. You may twist this into anything you will, but it cannot detract from the veracity of the concept. It leads me, and I am certain many others, to wonder just how many are posting in the Bible forum without having read it.

Php 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

It's seems some will prefer to sit on their duffs.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

Then we are not brothers. At least I know where fellowship ends.

That's what you got from that? Weird. If you say you are not my brother I have to believe you. Noted.