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Yes I understand how the prophecy applied to history involving Antiochus IV, but mainly as a blueprint for the Antichrist at the very end. Antiochus Epiphanes placed an idol abomination of Zeus inside the temple at Jerusalem and demanded all to worship it. He did that around 170 B.C. Our Lord Jesus warned of the "abomination of desolation" prophecy from the Book of Daniel around 30 A.D.
The prophecy does require another temple to built in Jerusalem, and that time is not yet, but soon, as the orthodox Jews have been preparing for it for decades now. We cannot modify God's prophecies in His Word to mean something else by spiritualizing. The temple Apostle Paul mentioned in 2 Thess.2:4 is not about the spiritual temple concept. It is about a temple in Jerusalem. The spiritual temple of Eph.2 cannot be corrupted by the coming Antichrist.
The prophecy does require another temple to built in Jerusalem, and that time is not yet, but soon, as the orthodox Jews have been preparing for it for decades now. We cannot modify God's prophecies in His Word to mean something else by spiritualizing. The temple Apostle Paul mentioned in 2 Thess.2:4 is not about the spiritual temple concept. It is about a temple in Jerusalem. The spiritual temple of Eph.2 cannot be corrupted by the coming Antichrist.
About America's debt system, it's no different than what the rest of the western nations have, because the same world banking elites control them too, and they are set to dump also so as to bring in their one-world currency. The kingdom beast will cover the whole civilized world, with the Antichrist as head at Jerusalem.
Notice at the end of Rev.13, the "image of the beast" is instituted first, and then the mark for buying and selling. I believe one will have to first agree to bowing in false worship to the another beast in order to buy and sell. Those who refuse are to be killed.
Notice at the end of Rev.13, the "image of the beast" is instituted first, and then the mark for buying and selling. I believe one will have to first agree to bowing in false worship to the another beast in order to buy and sell. Those who refuse are to be killed.
I don't know where you're getting your info about the Crusades, but there's a lot of propaganda in that applied to Christianity, and it is false. It began out of the need to protect Christians who went to Jerusalem and were obstructed by muslim bandits.
If you don't know who the restrainer of 2 Thess.2 is, see the Daniel 10 chapter.
I realize that some try to preach that the 2 Thess.2 chapter has been fulfilled already, but that is men's doctrines at work, even the mystery of iniquity at work in that, because here we are still, and our Lord Jesus' second coming has not happened yet. So I'd be very careful about listening to those scripture lawyers.
If you don't know who the restrainer of 2 Thess.2 is, see the Daniel 10 chapter.
I realize that some try to preach that the 2 Thess.2 chapter has been fulfilled already, but that is men's doctrines at work, even the mystery of iniquity at work in that, because here we are still, and our Lord Jesus' second coming has not happened yet. So I'd be very careful about listening to those scripture lawyers.
OK, let's factor that in.
So our Lord Jesus is coming to MARRY five virgins? That doesn't sound like Jesus, it sounds like some muslim caliphate taking many wives.
How do the five foolish virgins come back after trying to buy, and knock on the door asking Jesus to let them in, if Jesus and His five virgins are raptured to outer space?
How is it, that Matt.25 shows "all nations" gathered before Jesus when He separates the goats from His sheep? Where does that show He will be for that?
It's your Pre-trib secret rapture doctrine that obviously is lacking dynamics.
So our Lord Jesus is coming to MARRY five virgins? That doesn't sound like Jesus, it sounds like some muslim caliphate taking many wives.
How do the five foolish virgins come back after trying to buy, and knock on the door asking Jesus to let them in, if Jesus and His five virgins are raptured to outer space?
How is it, that Matt.25 shows "all nations" gathered before Jesus when He separates the goats from His sheep? Where does that show He will be for that?
It's your Pre-trib secret rapture doctrine that obviously is lacking dynamics.
That's not how to go about understanding God's Word with changing Scripture meaning by leaving the idea of what daily event involving the sanctuary at Jerusalem points to (i.e., the morning and evening daily sacrifices of that time).
We were already provided a blueprint of this coming event by Antiochus which you yourself mentioned. And ending the daily sacrifice is exactly... what Antiochus Epiphanes did in 165 B.C.
Dan 8:13
13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
KJV
Dan 11:31
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
KJV
The idea of placing that "abomination that maketh desolate" that ends the daily sacrifice involves worship of something that no longer requires the daily sacrifices.
We were already provided a blueprint of this coming event by Antiochus which you yourself mentioned. And ending the daily sacrifice is exactly... what Antiochus Epiphanes did in 165 B.C.
Dan 8:13
13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
KJV
Dan 11:31
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
KJV
The idea of placing that "abomination that maketh desolate" that ends the daily sacrifice involves worship of something that no longer requires the daily sacrifices.
I forgot to mention Ezekiel 8 & 9. In Ezekiel 9 God tells the angels with the inkhorn to go put a mark on the foreheads of all those who sigh (disgust) because of the evil. That word mark in the Hebrew is characterized by the Hebrew letter Tau, which in ancient Paleo-Hebrew was made as a cross (X). So that definitely is a spiritual mark by God upon His elect for the end, that's His seal upon His.
Still doesn't change the fact that it is about the daily sacrifices per the old covenant.
Many brethren have also based their disbelief that Apostle Paul was speaking of the temple in Jerusalem in 2 Thess.2:4 also, simply because the temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. and still not one there today. Yet God's Word reveals another will be built for the Antichrist to sit in, and the orthodox Jews in Jerusalem have the materials ready to do just that.
Many brethren have also based their disbelief that Apostle Paul was speaking of the temple in Jerusalem in 2 Thess.2:4 also, simply because the temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. and still not one there today. Yet God's Word reveals another will be built for the Antichrist to sit in, and the orthodox Jews in Jerusalem have the materials ready to do just that.
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All those objections are illegitimate.
At least I do not confuse the rapture with the GWT JUDGMENT,as you just did
BTW,never overwork a parable. Anybody can MAKE THEM SAY what is not there.
Virgins =believers
Oil=HS
GROOM=JESUS
LAMP=BELIEVERS INDWELLING SPIRIT
ALL WAITING =WHAT US PRETRIBS CORRECTLY DO
PURCHASE = COMMAND TO REOBTAIN,AS IN THE 7LETTERS TO 7 CHURCHES.
SO,,SIMPLE
At least I do not confuse the rapture with the GWT JUDGMENT,as you just did
BTW,never overwork a parable. Anybody can MAKE THEM SAY what is not there.
Virgins =believers
Oil=HS
GROOM=JESUS
LAMP=BELIEVERS INDWELLING SPIRIT
ALL WAITING =WHAT US PRETRIBS CORRECTLY DO
PURCHASE = COMMAND TO REOBTAIN,AS IN THE 7LETTERS TO 7 CHURCHES.
SO,,SIMPLE
Matt 9:15
15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
KJV
We are children of the bridechamber, not the bride, The Lamb's wife. Jerusalem is the bride per Rev.21.
The bridegroom with his friends at night would go to the house of the bride to fetch her and... her attendents (young maidens, i.e, the ten virgins), then all would go to the house of the bridegroom. It was customary for the bridegroom to yell out, "Behold, the bridegroom cometh!". And then all would go to the groom's house for the marriage supper.
The pre-trib doctors have taken that OT ceremony and twisted it to try and make it fit their pre-trib theories.
And in the Matt.25 parable of the ten virgins, it's the five foolish virgins that are told to go buy more Oil when it is impossible to buy that Oil.
15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
KJV
We are children of the bridechamber, not the bride, The Lamb's wife. Jerusalem is the bride per Rev.21.
The bridegroom with his friends at night would go to the house of the bride to fetch her and... her attendents (young maidens, i.e, the ten virgins), then all would go to the house of the bridegroom. It was customary for the bridegroom to yell out, "Behold, the bridegroom cometh!". And then all would go to the groom's house for the marriage supper.
The pre-trib doctors have taken that OT ceremony and twisted it to try and make it fit their pre-trib theories.
And in the Matt.25 parable of the ten virgins, it's the five foolish virgins that are told to go buy more Oil when it is impossible to buy that Oil.
Rev 21:2
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband
KJV
Rev 21:9-10
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
KJV
Sorry, you cannot change what the bride is per God's Word with your pre-trib secret rapture theory that was devised by men. You might consider study of Ezekiel 16 also about how Jerusalem is the bride.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband
KJV
Rev 21:9-10
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
KJV
Sorry, you cannot change what the bride is per God's Word with your pre-trib secret rapture theory that was devised by men. You might consider study of Ezekiel 16 also about how Jerusalem is the bride.
where did the wise others get there oil?
verse says the others they returned, but was too late,
[And while they went to buy,]does not say they came back with no oil being sold them.
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment,
that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear;
and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
[Buy the truth], and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money;
come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
verse says the others they returned, but was too late,
[And while they went to buy,]does not say they came back with no oil being sold them.
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment,
that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear;
and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
[Buy the truth], and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money;
come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
P
Sorry The groom is not marrying a building.
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Buildings can not talk.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Buildings on horses?
Dressed in white linen?
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband
You basically are down to one "grey area" verse.
Also consider the last supper.
This is the groom with the bride,speaking of the marriage supper to come in heaven,with his saints.
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Buildings can not talk.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Buildings on horses?
Dressed in white linen?
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband
You basically are down to one "grey area" verse.
Also consider the last supper.
This is the groom with the bride,speaking of the marriage supper to come in heaven,with his saints.
Correct. It was the "daily" that was taken away. Daniel was not doing sacrifices daily, he was praying. Thus the daily prayers were taken away.
Daniel 9:17
Now therefore, our God, hear the prayer of Your servant, and his supplications, and for the Lord’s sake cause Your face to shine on Your sanctuary, which is desolate.
Daniel 9:17
Now therefore, our God, hear the prayer of Your servant, and his supplications, and for the Lord’s sake cause Your face to shine on Your sanctuary, which is desolate.
Please show me where in God's word is a third Jewish temple built for the AntiChrist to sit in. This I have to see. No doubt there are those in Jerusalem who are planning to build a new temple and have the materials staged for it, but that alone doesn't mean it will happen.
IF a new temple is to be built by the Jews then that means it will also have to be destroyed because the only new temple that we are 100% certain is coming is the one from heaven, which presumably will be place on the same location as the previous ones.
IF a new temple is to be built by the Jews then that means it will also have to be destroyed because the only new temple that we are 100% certain is coming is the one from heaven, which presumably will be place on the same location as the previous ones.