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Not the proper thread for explainations, opinions, views. Not intended as an offense, please read the op. and offer respect. One thread without the conjecture, what I see, you see, anyone else sees. no Offense intended. Thank you in advance for either not participating, or adding scripture and or, expressions of peace. Not a teaching thread. no need to explain
Part of this is a repeat, this is pretty cool
Job 2:4 And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea,
all that a man hath will he give for his life.
Job 2:5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh,
and he will curse thee to thy face.
^That^ ressembles "a temptation" in his flesh (Gal 4:14)
Job 2:6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand;
but save his life. (then struck him with boils in 7)
This could have been the conversation with Job, Job (behold, Satan)
Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you,
that he may sift you as wheat:
Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not:
and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
Christ the power of God, prayed for Simon's faith
1Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith
unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1Peter 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season,
if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
1Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold
that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory
at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
James 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
James 5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job
This here ("Satan's desire" unto Simon)
Satan desired to have Simon
Always reminded me of "his desire" as expressed unto Cain
And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
Job 2:4 And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea,
all that a man hath will he give for his life.
Job 2:5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh,
and he will curse thee to thy face.
^That^ ressembles "a temptation" in his flesh (Gal 4:14)
Job 2:6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand;
but save his life. (then struck him with boils in 7)
This could have been the conversation with Job, Job (behold, Satan)
Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you,
that he may sift you as wheat:
Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not:
and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
Christ the power of God, prayed for Simon's faith
1Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith
unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1Peter 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season,
if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
1Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold
that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory
at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
James 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
James 5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job
This here ("Satan's desire" unto Simon)
Satan desired to have Simon
Always reminded me of "his desire" as expressed unto Cain
And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
Psalms 103: 1-5
1 (A Psalm of David.) Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.
2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with loving kindness and tender mercies;
5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.
1 (A Psalm of David.) Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.
2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with loving kindness and tender mercies;
5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.
J
pilgrim, you have a gift of understanding, and discernment that radiates through your words often. I'm not in the flattery business, but I often read a lot of folks on here. the consistancy in the message you always share, your willingness to listen and consider, and then present good seed, add to, ect.....I hope you will allow the thought in that you may belong in ministry into consideration. and hope I'm not out of turn saying this to you. just feel moved often not only with the scriptures you share, but the connections and thinking you exhibit.
take it as you will sister, it is unwarranted that I say this to you, just an encouraging thought I felt was proper to suggest. God bless you and ive violated my scripture only guidline here but ....
J
amen thank you for the addition...
psalm 139
"You have searched me, Lord,and you know me.
You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.
Before a word is on my tongue
you, Lord, know it completely.
You hem me in behind and before,
and you lay your hand upon me.
Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.
Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,
even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.
If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,”
even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the
for darkness is as light to you.
For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
How precious to me are your thoughts,[SUP]a[/SUP] God!
How vast is the sum of them!
Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand—
when I awake, I am still with you.
psalm 139
"You have searched me, Lord,and you know me.
You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.
Before a word is on my tongue
you, Lord, know it completely.
You hem me in behind and before,
and you lay your hand upon me.
Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.
Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,
even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.
If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,”
even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the
for darkness is as light to you.
For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
How precious to me are your thoughts,[SUP]a[/SUP] God!
How vast is the sum of them!
Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand—
when I awake, I am still with you.
Thanks be to our God for His blessing and for you also Jasonj. Thank you for your kind words, that edifying word , that's definately you brother and is of the spirit I would receive the same in.
God be blessed. Im glad if you have received anything out of some of the ways I might come in at a thing or two. I very much enjoy making those various connections both seeking them out finding them putting them together and testing them out every which way. God has blessed me in it (as a pastime) not ministry (not so much). Most likely not in my cards, I dont get around too well most the time, but I am thankful to God for the scriptures really, they are truly just like this big beautiful puzzle, I love them (and moreso after that approach)
Thanks for your kind post Jasonj
Our God and Father richly bless you in Christ Jesus our Lord, Peace unto you
God be blessed. Im glad if you have received anything out of some of the ways I might come in at a thing or two. I very much enjoy making those various connections both seeking them out finding them putting them together and testing them out every which way. God has blessed me in it (as a pastime) not ministry (not so much). Most likely not in my cards, I dont get around too well most the time, but I am thankful to God for the scriptures really, they are truly just like this big beautiful puzzle, I love them (and moreso after that approach)
Thanks for your kind post Jasonj
Our God and Father richly bless you in Christ Jesus our Lord, Peace unto you
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J
amen, and God is still using you lol
as he does all of us who seek after the Lord and acknowledge our ways before Him. God bless you in every spiritual blessing in Christ, may he pour out His spirit in every inch of your being !thank you for your kindness always and your sound example of restraint and wisdom in the things you do put forth. those connections are most wonderful and not a common thing to see even among bible students. Peace and all good will to you
Thank you. This is a really good thread that you started. I think it's awesome to just post the word of God and not argue over it. This word of God is the light. In it is all things that we need such as strength, encouragement, and understanding. It is nice to see Christians getting along and sharing the Word of God. God bless you and everyone here.
Isaiah 58: 8-12
8. Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;
10And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:
11And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.
12And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
Isaiah 58: 8-12
8. Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;
10And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:
11And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.
12And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
Hebrews 10:31-39
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
33Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
34For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
35Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
36For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
37For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
38Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
33Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
34For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
35Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
36For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
37For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
38Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
J
amen good seed
John 12:44-50 " Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.
“If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
john 14:15-
“If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[SUP] [/SUP]n you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
ON THAT DAY REALIZE THAT I AM IN MY FATHER AND YOU ARE IN ME AND I AM IN YOU. Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
Romans 8:1 " there is now therefore, no condemnation for those who are "IN CHRIST"
J
Romans 8:7-8 " the mind controlled by the sinful nature is hostile to God ; IT DOES NOT SUBMIT TO GODS LAW, nor can it do so. the mind controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God"
James 1:22 " be not hearers of the Word only, and DECEIVE yourselves, do what is says.
Genesis 1:16-17 "And the Lord God commanded the man " you are FREE to eat of any tree in the Garden. BUT YOU MUST NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, FOR WHEN YOU EAT OF IT YOU WILL SURELY DIE."
Genesis 3:4 " you will not surely die" the serpent said to the woman.....
Genesis 3:17 " to adam He said " because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you "you must not eat of it. Cursed is the ground because of you......v 19......for dust you are and to dust you will return.
3:22 " and the Lord God said " the man has become like one of us knowing Good and evil, HE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to reach out His hand and take also from THE TREE OF LIFE and eat and Live forever.....
john 6:53- 58 -Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
J
amen I was hoping for more of the Grace alone doctrine participants, without opinions so people can see how the word actually works in harmony when mankind doesn't try to make it say what individuals think, and just look at Gods Word. the best "preacher" in existence who is ALWAYS correct is The Lord.
and in response to Isaiah 58, "
matthew 25:34-36 " Then the King will say to those on His right. " come you who are blessed by my Father, take your inheritance, the Kingdom prepared for you since the beginning of the world. For I was Hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you visited me."
v40 " the King will reply, will reply " I tell you the truth, whatever you did for the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me"
john 15:12-17 my command is this: Love each other AS I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. You are my friends if you do what I command. I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. This is my command: Love each other.
1 john 3:16-24 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters. If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.
This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.
and in response to Isaiah 58, "
matthew 25:34-36 " Then the King will say to those on His right. " come you who are blessed by my Father, take your inheritance, the Kingdom prepared for you since the beginning of the world. For I was Hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you visited me."
v40 " the King will reply, will reply " I tell you the truth, whatever you did for the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me"
john 15:12-17 my command is this: Love each other AS I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. You are my friends if you do what I command. I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. This is my command: Love each other.
1 john 3:16-24 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters. If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.
This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.
J
WOW>. "everything I have learned from my Father I have made known to you " <WOW
john 6:63 " the flesh counts for nothing, the SPIRIT gives LIFE ,the words I have spoken to you are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE"
....and thou shalt call His name Jesus The Son of the Living God, The Way and the Truth and the Life ,prince of peace, Lord of Lords, King of Kings, author and Finisher of our faith, wise counselor, the good shepherd, the living water, the bread of Life, the alpha and omega, the Anointed One, the Christ of god, the messiah, the bright morning Star, the suffering servant, the Teacher....................
J
just before the cross...john 15:9-11 " As the Father has Loved me, so I have Loved you. Now remain in my Love. If you obey my commands, you will remain in my Love. just as I have obeyed my Father and remain in His Love. I have told you this SO that my joy may be in you and your joy may be complete"
Just after the cross
matthew 28:18-20 "Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of ALL NATIONS, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
1 john 5:3 " in fact, this is Love for God : to keep His commands and His commands are not burdensome"
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