The Great Tribulation - A Futurist Lie

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kaylagrl

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lol, My Lord, what hole do Americans live under?

Most of the world views Israel in a very poor light.

As does the Bible, and most Jews.

Dear oh dear.

And you lot, who want to funnel all of us back into Jerusalem and then spark Armageddon call us the anti-Semites?

Begone child of Satan


Nah,we're
dealing with an anti-christ spirit here,and it isn't me. Yes,the world has hated the Jews for years and years because they are His chosen people. And you can say whatever foolishness you want,but don't bring God and His Word into it.Neither agree with you!
 

ZEEK

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Sorry KaylaGirl, but you are **personal attack removed**

You are clueless about the Bible.

Clueless about the world outside your backyard.

Clueless about the Israeli state.

Clueless about the Jews and how we feel about Zionist Israel.

Go back in your hole.

Stick your vile Zionism back where it belongs

Theodore Herzl:

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”
 
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Nah,we're
dealing with an anti-christ spirit here,and it isn't me. Yes,the world has hated the Jews for years and years because they are His chosen people. And you can say whatever foolishness you want,but don't bring God and His Word into it.Neither agree with you!
Wait a minute now! Look at the definition of antichrist.... it looks like the Jew are the spirit of antichrist.

1 John 4:3 KJV
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
 

abcdef

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then he is not chained, nor is he bound.. he deceives nations by deceiving people as long as he cab decieve people, who infuence other people, he is free

Brother EG,

Please examine Rev 20 again.


"Deceive the nations"



What does the term encompass in the context of this passage, exclusively for now?

It says that he cannot deceive the nations until the 1000 yrs is fulfilled, v 3.


What does this mean?

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Does it mean that there is no sin during the 1000 yrs?


That people will not have any evil thoughts, or lust of the flesh to have children?

Will there be no money or possessions to lust after?

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And if there is sin,

How will people be saved? By faith? That which is seen (Jesus during the 1000 yr reign), is not hope (faith), Ro 8:24.

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And what about the gift of the Holy Spirit? They need to repent first, Acts 2:38

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And then if they do accept Jesus, then they cannot be members of the Bride of Christ/Pentecost Kingdom and receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit?

That is, If the wedding is over, with the trib, what kingdom, if any, will they enter unto if the "kingdom" is on earth?

What covenant will they be under?

NT? That time of the promise of the Holy Spirit covenant would be over when the kingdom is taken at the beginning of the trib (on your time line).

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If there is no sin...how can Magog (gentile nations) rebel?

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What are the "nations", that it is talking about?


V 8, Magog

The nations that are described in v3, as being deceived, are Magog.

That is, Satan cannot deceive the nations Magog, into surrounding Jerusalem, until the 1000 yrs are fulfilled.

See, that is what he does when he is released from the prison, he deceives Magog into surrounding Jerusalem.

(Remember that he is called the dragon in v 2, identified in Rev 12:3, 17:3.)

Israel had to be restored to Jerusalem, for this to happen, as they are now.

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How are they deceived by Satan/dragon?


Rev 16:13-14.


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How is Satan/dragon bound? Exclusive to Rev 20?


He is thrown into the abyss.

He cannot Deceive the nations Magog into surrounding Jerusalem.
 

abcdef

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Again, you can't argue against a 2000 year gap and then argue for a 2000 year millennium. It's an inconsistency one has to create to make scripture fit their mold.
Brother RickyZ,

I'm not sure what you are saying.

Can you expand on this a little more?
 

RickyZ

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Those who believe prophecy was fulfilled in 70 ad say that there is not a 2000 year gap between Daniels 69th and 70th weeks. They also tend to believe that 70 ad was the start of the millennial rule. I just find it incongruent that they find it easier to believe in a 2000 year millennium (the definition of millennium being a 1000 year period) than that there could be a 2000 year gap in Daniel's weeks.

Said another way, I think that if you can believe a 1000 year period could last 2000 years, then you should be able to believe there could be a gap in Daniel's timeline.
 
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kaylagrl

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Sorry KaylaGirl, but you are an idiot, pure and simple, who goes around shooting her dumb mouth off.

You are clueless about the Bible.

Clueless about the world outside your backyard.

Clueless about the Israeli state.

Clueless about the Jews and how we feel about Zionist Israel.

Go back in your hole.

Stick your vile Zionism back where it belongs

Theodore Herzl:

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”


Quote " but you are an idiot, pure and simple, who goes around shooting her dumb mouth off."

Pssst look around you,this is a discussion forum. Why do you get to go around shooting your dumb mouth off and giving your opinions and no one else does?! Nah, doesn't work that way dude. And insulting me doesn't make you right. I suggest you grow up.

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You are clueless about the Bible."

Hey why would I know anything about the Bible? I only grew up in church,had parents that served as Sunday school teachers for some 20yrs and was in ministry myself for 20yrs.Oh and have several pastors in my family. And not one of us knows the Bible. Ok.

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Clueless about the world outside your backyard."

How the whole world hates the Jews? Oh I totally understand where you and KJV are coming from.And your bro mance doesn't intimidate me or back me up.


Quote "Clueless about the Jews and how we feel about Zionist Israel."

So you speak for all Jews? Man Im sayin what the Word says,you dont like it,take it up with Him.



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Go back in your hole."

Do you expect to be taken seriously when throw around insults like a four year old?!

Quote " Stick your vile Zionism back where it belongs"

Man I support Israel and the Jews. But Gods plans for Israel are up to Him.
 

RickyZ

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Sorry KaylaGirl, but you are **personal attack removed**

You are clueless about the Bible.

Clueless about the world outside your backyard.

Clueless about the Israeli state.

Clueless about the Jews and how we feel about Zionist Israel.

Go back in your hole.

Stick your vile Zionism back where it belongs

Theodore Herzl:

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”
KJV1611, do you think this is appropriate?
 
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kaylagrl

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Wait a minute now! Look at the definition of antichrist.... it looks like the Jew are the spirit of antichrist.

1 John 4:3 KJV
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Man for someone called KJV you sure do have an odd opinion of the Bible.
 
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Persuaded

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Sorry KaylaGirl, but you are **personal attack removed**
You are clueless about the Bible.

Clueless about the world outside your backyard.

Clueless about the Israeli state.

Clueless about the Jews and how we feel about Zionist Israel.

Go back in your hole.

Stick your vile Zionism back where it belongs

Theodore Herzl:

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”
So why is this person not banned?
 
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Persuaded

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I
haven't reported him. I dont know why he's so angry but I'll leave that to mods to decide what to do.
I sometimes get angry and say things I should not say, but that post is inexcusable.
 
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kaylagrl

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I sometimes get angry and say things I should not say, but that post is inexcusable.

Well he seems to be getting angrier, he swore at someone in another thread. So something is off.
 
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Persuaded

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Well he seems to be getting angrier, he swore at someone in another thread. So something is off.
I would report him if I knew how if you do not want to.
He really needs to go.
 
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kaylagrl

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I would report him if I knew how if you do not want to.
He really needs to go.
If
you hit the triangle on the bottom left of the post it will open up and you can report a person. Its just not something I use often. I pretty much let it sail and the mods will see it eventually.
 

RickyZ

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If
you hit the triangle on the bottom left of the post it will open up and you can report a person. Its just not something I use often. I pretty much let it sail and the mods will see it eventually.
The mods are overwhelmed and cannot read every post, so if it doesn't get reported there's a good chance they'll never know.
 

Ahwatukee

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Those who believe prophecy was fulfilled in 70 ad say that there is not a 2000 year gap between Daniels 69th and 70th weeks. They also tend to believe that 70 ad was the start of the millennial rule. I just find it incongruent that they find it easier to believe in a 2000 year millennium (the definition of millennium being a 1000 year period) than that there could be a 2000 year gap in Daniel's weeks.

Said another way, I think that if you can believe a 1000 year period could last 2000 years, then you should be able to believe there could be a gap in Daniel's timeline.
I concur! Amen! In fact, there numerous gaps in scripture regarding prophecy. A good example is Isaiah 7:14:

"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel."

This prophecy of Christ's birth did not take place till several hundred years later. When Jesus was in the synagogue reading the prophecy of Isaiah, he left off mid-sentence which says "and the day of vengeance of our God" and that because that part of the prophecy had not yet taken place and in fact is still future. (See Isaiah 61:1)

 

RickyZ

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Sorry KaylaGirl, but you are **personal attack removed**

You are clueless about the Bible.

Clueless about the world outside your backyard.

Clueless about the Israeli state.

Clueless about the Jews and how we feel about Zionist Israel.

Go back in your hole.

Stick your vile Zionism back where it belongs

Theodore Herzl:

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”
So why is this person not banned?
Oh sure, I post documented proof of a false teacher in our midst and I get spanked. Zeek calls people c***, idiot, holes, and whatever it was he called Utah, and he only gets edited. Seems a bit arbitrary but oh well.
 
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Persuaded

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Oh sure, I post documented proof of a false teacher in our midst and I get spanked. Zeek calls people c***, idiot, holes, and whatever it was he called Utah, and he only gets edited. Seems a bit arbitrary but oh well.
Well I would agree with you but am afraid I might get another warning.
 
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kaylagrl

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Well I would agree with you but am afraid I might get another warning.
Well
now I dont sit right with this. Anyone know a mod I can get in touch with?