Apostolic wife refuses to obey God's commands.

[p_rehbein]

Hmm...........maybe there is a reason you have not yet experienced the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Just saying. As for speaking in tongues.........that really isn't required to receive the indwelling presence, for it is just ONE of the Gifts the Holy Spirit imparts to believers.

You might do some study of the Book of Acts to learn how believers received the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, but to save you some time.........it most always requires the laying on of hands of Spirit filled believers, and their praying over you...........more than one example in Scripture of this.

Pentecost was a special day........it does not happen every day in every congregation in the world.......it was one special day.........since then, there are ways Scripture tells us to accomplish/receive things/gifts.

I don't want to get into your marital problems..........you should seek counseling if you really want assistance/advice. Don't look for it here............One thing I have found in my own experience is that Christian humility achieves much.

I'm not debating that. What I am saying is because I haven't recieved the Holy Spirit and speaking in tonges she feels she wears the pants in the family. She publicly embarrasses me---"You better stop talking before I leave your sorry #@S!"

 

[HisHolly]

She has a power problem. That won't leave when you " do" something.. she'll think of another reason you're beneath her

 

[LaurenTM]

okay...

so it seems that Apostolic refers to a different sect within Pentecostals

known by their women who do not cut their hair and must always wear dresses etc

is that right or not?

found this: dunno

 

[Dan_473]

Thamk you for getting back to me.
There are numerous examples:
---being respectful
-- not raising her voice just to make a point, or express herself
---A Godly Woman Seeks to be Gentle and Quiet. The woman Folly is loud; she is undisciplined and without knowledge. (Proverbs 9:13, NIV) She is loud and defiant, her feet never stay at home (Proverbs 7:11 NIV)
---tells white lies, or tells me just enough info to answer a question
She says there's a difference between a white lie and a bold-face lie???

How long did you know her before marrying? Just curious...

Myself, I'm not big on the Quiet Wife approach.
But some people are... the important thing is to work it out before I Do... imo

 

[LaurenTM]

How long did you know her before marrying? Just curious...

Myself, I'm not big on the Quiet Wife approach.
But some people are... the important thing is to work it out before I Do... imo

thing is, with quiet wives...that are forced to be quiet?

well, they tend to rumble and finally explode

no...I have never been one...

 

[Ariel82]

I'm in a very lonely, unhappy marriage. My Wife, of 4 1/2 years, who is filled with the Holy Spirit and speaks in tongues refuses to biblicly submit to me(Husband). Only when I'm at her level spiritually. Help!

1. How do you want her to submit?
2. Your spiritual level? Not sure how you measure that.
3. Perhaps your church would have a bible study about what the Bible says a godly marriage is? Roles and responsibilities of both.
4. Will pray God's will and not individual pride wins and you and your wife have renewed hearts and minds to strive to be closer to Him.
5. How do you know she is filled with the HOLY spirit and not just a spirit?

 

[Dan_473]

Some women- I've heard- probably not many- are into the
My husband makes all the decisions Approach

But no one should ever be forced into that role

 

[Dan_473]

I'm not debating that. What I am saying is because I haven't recieved the Holy Spirit and speaking in tonges she feels she wears the pants in the family. She publicly embarrasses me---"You better stop talking before I leave your sorry #@S!"

If my wife said that to me, I'd continue saying what was important to me

If she then left me, problem solved.

 

[pottersclay]

First of all the greatest gift is love......are you willing to love her through this?.....if so we can begin.

 

[Ariel82]

Thamk you for getting back to me.
There are numerous examples:
---being respectful
-- not raising her voice just to make a point, or express herself
---A Godly Woman Seeks to be Gentle and Quiet. The woman Folly is loud; she is undisciplined and without knowledge. (Proverbs 9:13, NIV) She is loud and defiant, her feet never stay at home (Proverbs 7:11 NIV)
---tells white lies, or tells me just enough info to answer a question
She says there's a difference between a white lie and a bold-face lie???

She may just be expressing herself poorly. Nothing you have listed shows a wife not submitting, just a person who needs to grow more in Christ.

If you want her not to scream and yell, then you shouldn't scream or yell and model the behavior and way of telling to you by being kind and gentle to her.

Many people raise their voice for emphasis but I walk away from someone who tells at me just like I walk away from kids throwing temper tantrums (after I make sure they don't hurt themselves)

Half-Lies? Not white lies...

So she doesn't tell you every single thing you want to know?

Truthfully I wouldn't either. You sound like a nag and likely to use anything extra said as an arrow to condemn me later. Personally I would limit your ammo by telling you as little as possible and this just reading what little I have.

There is a difference.

A bold face lie is told to hurt and deceive...if she only tells you enough to protect herself, then that's ok. If she plays lawyer and says one thing that is true but knows you misunderstand what she says and doesn't clear it up but uses it as a tool to say she told you....then that's being manipulative and not okay.

Not knowing the situation, can't really say, but it's obvious you and your wife need some godly counseling to help break down walls of communication.

 

[Depleted]

Thamk you for getting back to me.
There are numerous examples:
---being respectful
-- not raising her voice just to make a point, or express herself
---A Godly Woman Seeks to be Gentle and Quiet. The woman Folly is loud; she is undisciplined and without knowledge. (Proverbs 9:13, NIV) She is loud and defiant, her feet never stay at home (Proverbs 7:11 NIV)
---tells white lies, or tells me just enough info to answer a question
She says there's a difference between a white lie and a bold-face lie???

Really? When you were dating, and even when you were engaged, she was this respectful, quiet, demure, disciplined, knowledgeable, submissive kind of woman? And then BAM! She changed overnight into the opposite of this?

I'm thinking I'm learning the difference between a white lie and bold-faced lie right here.

 

[Ariel82]

I'm not debating that. What I am saying is because I haven't recieved the Holy Spirit and speaking in tonges she feels she wears the pants in the family. She publicly embarrasses me---"You better stop talking before I leave your sorry #@S!"

She is wrong because speaking in tongues is not a sign of a born again believer.

However that doctrine shows you are going to a church which teaches false doctrines and I would recommend a different church.

All believers of they truly believe the Gospel are loved by God and have all power and authority for their duties.

If you want to "wear the pants" in the family, step up. Study your Bible. Pray. See what lies your church and your wife are believing and be a man of God. Set up times to pray over your family. Invite your wife to pray with you.

 

[preacher4truth]

If she were 'filled with the Holy Spirit' you wouldn't be having these problems.

If I were to tell you I was 'filled with the Holy Spirit' yet didn't submit to the Word, was disobedient in my role, well, then I'm lying and arrogant.

 

[Ariel82]

well I'm blond and my husband is not

does that define her Apostle-ness?

Apparently her speaking in tongues makes her better than him in her eyes.....not sure he understands more to answer why that's so.

Not biblical ....so....

 

[bluto]

Apostolic Pentecostal Christian.

Just to be clear is your wife associated with the "Oneness Pentecostals?" If that's the case then you have a "spiritual/doctrinal" problem as opposed to her obeying or not obeying her. Please clarify?

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

 

[dcontroversal]

Lead her to Christ and pray for her salvation.......!

 

[Ariel82]

If she were 'filled with the Holy Spirit' you wouldn't be having these problems.

If I were to tell you I was 'filled with the Holy Spirit' yet didn't submit to the Word, was disobedient in my role, well, then I'm lying and arrogant.

Doubtful because God tells us to take our tongues and cursing at your husband would cause Dad to give us a sound rebuke. I would be apologizing within the hour of calming down.

 

[Ariel82]

Lead her to Christ and pray fro her salvation.......!

How do you do that if she thinks she is More saved than him?

 

[preacher4truth]

How do you do that if she thinks she is More saved than him?

First thing is she needs to realize she's a lost wretch. Only God can reveal that to her; Matthew 11:25-30.

 

[LaurenTM]

Apparently her speaking in tongues makes her better than him in her eyes.....not sure he understands more to answer why that's so.

Not biblical ....so....

well we know that is patently false

sadly, it seems to be taught in some circles

seems the husband is buying into it

it is no wonder so many object to speaking in tongues when the teaching on it is so messed up...and that is not a reflection on the husband...there is error that has affected their marriage which is not funny