****I don't think it is easy at all to lose one's salvation---just thinking though---if once your truly saved---you can't lose your salvation---why is there so many warning about forsaking the Lord---it would be better to have not known the Lord---then to depart from the way of righteousness (2 Peter 2:20-22)----I know people say these people never knew the Lord in the first place---but to me it seems like we are taking a chance with people's souls in this area----maybe we are sure of our salvation---and should be---but others could confidently depart from Christ thinking they are secure---this disturbs me...
Gay and Lesbian Announcement: Once Saved Always Saved
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Homosexuality is a sin. So whenever you hear things like this, insert another sin and see how it sounds...
"A man repented of being a murderer, but now has joined with other murderers to form a church of their own, where murder is accepted."
Let's try another shall we...
"A member of the child moleter's community took a stand today against the discrimination of child molesters being allowed as boyscout and girlscout leaders."
If such statements don't bother your conscience, then your conscience isn't working.
"A man repented of being a murderer, but now has joined with other murderers to form a church of their own, where murder is accepted."
Let's try another shall we...
"A member of the child moleter's community took a stand today against the discrimination of child molesters being allowed as boyscout and girlscout leaders."
If such statements don't bother your conscience, then your conscience isn't working.
The truth of God in regard to the abomination of homosexual sex Never ""evolves"".... His standards will remain rock solid.. Anyone who wants to """evolve""" the homosexual act into something that is no longer sin is in rebellion against the world of God.. It matter not on jot what our sociueties say about homosexuality.. What matter is what God says about it..
One is either standing on the Rock or they have fallen away..
One is either standing on the Rock or they have fallen away..
We should never forget the results of Sodom & Gomorrah..... while homosexuality was the prominent sin, it's the other sins homosexuality brings with it..... violent attitudes, evil behavior, totally lacking morals, etc.
Common sinners are one thing..... Hellbent sinners are another.
Fill up your church with witches, or Satanists, or severe drug addicts..... you'll find out real quick some sins are different than others.
I am on about how we treat people. Sin doesn't evolve to not be sin, but the love rather than condemnation of each other does. How are we supposed to change or inspire change in people if we put them on the other side of a wall? Should we go backwards and bring back the brutal and inhumane violence of stoning? Is that the cure?
The freedom from oppression, I think it's a good thing don't you think? Does not oppression cause people to have secret societies full of sin, more than the non-oppression and ability to talk and discuss things with people who want to be guided the right way? Who do these groups draw into their groups, isn't it people who are on the verge and find comfort in something, and become further defiled, because the world out there does not make them feel loved? This also accounts for children who don't feel loved by their parents, it can lead them astray when they are still learning.
I think many people fall into sin from the lack of love for each other in the world, and in bitterness. We are supposed to support each other, and sow love where love is lost, and where God is lost in each others perception.
I hope you can think about my point and understand it.
The freedom from oppression, I think it's a good thing don't you think? Does not oppression cause people to have secret societies full of sin, more than the non-oppression and ability to talk and discuss things with people who want to be guided the right way? Who do these groups draw into their groups, isn't it people who are on the verge and find comfort in something, and become further defiled, because the world out there does not make them feel loved? This also accounts for children who don't feel loved by their parents, it can lead them astray when they are still learning.
I think many people fall into sin from the lack of love for each other in the world, and in bitterness. We are supposed to support each other, and sow love where love is lost, and where God is lost in each others perception.
I hope you can think about my point and understand it.
Freedom from oppression? Who is oppressing homosexuals? Today they go around bullying old ladies and causing folks to lose their business just because the persons were Christian. Christians are being oppressed by homosexuals! Any homosexual that wants to come out of that nasty affair can do so by coming to Christ. One could probably write a book about Christians who were once homosexual(I know of one myself). The answer is not to make homosexuals feel comfortable in their sin, that just makes them feel better on their way to hell. We are not called to defend homosexuality, we are called to promote the good news of faith in Christ for forgiveness of sins.
this is a well thought out hypercritical situation. the context of sin is just that, sin. God has not changed HIS mind on that.
Homosexuality and Christianity are not synonymous to each other. Those who hold to Once saved always saved will say the person was never saved. Those who say he was saved yet abandoned his faith i.e. the parable of the " Sower". also apostate " one who betrays the faith. The action are also discernible. One who has received Christ cannot continue in sin willingly and be saved. that is just not possible Practicing sin is not what a Christian does. the suggestion too is the person is " truly gets saved'. One can no more know as the the action speak clearly against the word of God . the hypercritical sounds like a well thought out plan of those who went through the motions to establish a false narrative.
**** when you study the gay agenda you begin to realize the seriousness of this movement----- all compassion towards the lost gay or straight---- that' s not the focus----I will post you more info later--- as for Once Saved Always Saved----God' s Grace is irresistible but we still have free will---- we can frustrate God's Grace---- we can Grieve the Spirit---- it says it is better not to be born than to have known the way of righteousness and forsaking it...
It is impossible to lose one's salvation. "Lose" being the key word. It's not like you lose your keys. Confess with your mouth and believe in your heart - that is the test, that is what gains one salvation. Thus the only way to be "unsaved" is to stop believing and deny with your mouth. Of course, these people would have been with us here for a time, and turned away, but in heaven, they were never with us.
It doesn't matter how egregious the sin is, it does not cost one salvation.
But that doesn't mean sin is without consequence. It binds us on the earth, and we will be judged and receive gain/suffer loss from it.
And sexual sins receive a harsher scrutiny. Especially homosexuality.
It doesn't matter how egregious the sin is, it does not cost one salvation.
But that doesn't mean sin is without consequence. It binds us on the earth, and we will be judged and receive gain/suffer loss from it.
And sexual sins receive a harsher scrutiny. Especially homosexuality.
*****good point----but what is happening today is weird----people are saying God accepts them in their sin (this is their definition of Love)-----this is who I am---God did not make a mistake----therefore if I choose to practice a given sin sexual prohibited practice and God's blessing is on it...? comments------agreements----disagreements------folks this is happening bigly...
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Ya know speaking frankly....the term coming out of the closet was used a bit ago.
Now we know the first thing our first parents did was hid when they sinned. So putting that light on this matter tells me deep down they know or knew it is wrong...simple deduction.
Now if Adam and eve flaunted there sin, had a parade, lewd behavior, what do you think God would of done?
Further Satan's downfall was pride.....Now instead of humbling themselves they call their biggest organization gay pride moment.
In my eyes they haven't got a lot for God to bless....they been told, they been warned. God will not be mocked.
Still some here say more love, is it possible they have more love than God?
Notice the angles didn't witness to Sodom for them to repent.....didn't even warn them.
Let's grow a little backbone here and stop the wishy washy Jesus approach.
Now we know the first thing our first parents did was hid when they sinned. So putting that light on this matter tells me deep down they know or knew it is wrong...simple deduction.
Now if Adam and eve flaunted there sin, had a parade, lewd behavior, what do you think God would of done?
Further Satan's downfall was pride.....Now instead of humbling themselves they call their biggest organization gay pride moment.
In my eyes they haven't got a lot for God to bless....they been told, they been warned. God will not be mocked.
Still some here say more love, is it possible they have more love than God?
Notice the angles didn't witness to Sodom for them to repent.....didn't even warn them.
Let's grow a little backbone here and stop the wishy washy Jesus approach.
I think that I am going to take Jesus at his word. None of you doubters are going to take my eternal salvation away from me.
Meanwhile, I'll take my sins to Jesus, ask for his forgiveness. He told me to forgive my brother's sin against me 70 x 7 times. Don't you believe that he does the same for you.
Meanwhile, I'll take my sins to Jesus, ask for his forgiveness. He told me to forgive my brother's sin against me 70 x 7 times. Don't you believe that he does the same for you.