Sin comes from a seed, and all that comes from it is within sin, but where does the seed originate? Where is the beginning of sin, is it the action? Is in the thought? The intention? The underlying emotion? Which comes first? I think that in debating sin, we should try to think about its origin. When we think about that then we can think about what avoids sin. I'm pretty sure that if we grasp unconditional love, in our likeness to God (made in God's image); that is the 'holy' place from where sin cannot occur.
Do you all agree that there is no such thing as a holy sinner? Or a slightly holy or a mostly holy, sinner? Holy and sinner are contradictions.
And if the whole meaning of reading the bible, or following Jesus, or glorifying God, is to align ourselves with Spirit (walk with the spirit), then isn't the whole meaning that we should try to align ourselves with holiness?
Jesus was born of pure holiness. We were all born into sin. But Jesus is the way, the life, and the truth of alignment to Spirit and therefore alignment and communication with God.
We all have our moments don't we? I'm sure everyone has experienced it, where suddenly you are free from the place of self-judgement and therefore outer-judgement. A place of peace within, no anger, no disharmony, no struggle, 'no burdens', love for all. In our image we see the image of others - but it is not the image of God we see.
The image of God is visible when we have overcome our self-image, and it is our self-image which is at the very heart of our dialog and our interactions. This is why you can tell a lot about a person, by how they are with those who 'push their buttons'. Often when someone's buttons are pushed, what comes out of them is a hurt self-image, beliefs which they feel have been attacked (or someone is making them hold on to or question). And in their response to the people who push their buttons, you may see spurious judgement, and self-righteousness, 'you're wrong I'm right'. And in those words, those people are telling you all about themselves, their self image.
If love in its purest form, unconditional love, is the seed, I don't believe any sin can occur from it.
When we involve self-image, we involve self-identity, and we identify with others as selves, separate people, separate identities. But love see us all as one, because, that is how God see's us. We are all God's children, even if we have a hugely damaged self-image, or have turned that damage (as a way of coping) into self-righteousness which is self-denial.
It is not about whether God loves us, because God loves us all the same. God doesn't put levels on love (therefore conditional), love is God's constant, it is a constant. It is about whether we allow God to love us. If we allow God to love us, then we will also love ourselves, and in loving ourselves we will love our neighbours. Jesus said love your neighbours 'as you love yourself', and the reason people don't particularly love their neighbours easily, is because they don't particularly love themselves easily. And the reason they do not love themselves easily, is because they do not easily allow God to love them 'completely'. But in our lack of that, from thinking we are bad because we have sinned (and it is always 'have' sinned, unless you are sinning right now, right?), we become an open vessel for sin, because, it is God's pure love for us which saves us from sin through the holy spirit.
I'm not looking for anyone to take apart what I said and tell me where it is wrong. These are just my thoughts in the moment.
If there is anything to take away from anything anyone says, take the good. Comment on the good. Exaggerate focus on the good. Whether someone is half erroneous in what they say, again, focus on the good, so that they know that is worth talking about more than what might be erroneous.
Do not take people away from God, by taking them away from the good that they say, or turning their words into something they didn't mean. Glorify the good in others, for that is the loving kind humble thing to do, which is more alike to Christ, the way the truth and the life of being.