Open Theism? What is really being said?
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If he can only do what can be done then were the scriptures lying when is written that all things are possible with God? So God can't make 2 + 2 = 5, are you sure? Matt. 6:27
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“God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong, but I can't. If a thing is free to be good it's also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata - of creatures that worked like machines - would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they've got to be free.”
― C.S. Lewis
― C.S. Lewis
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"Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently, He thought it worth the risk…..If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will, that is, for making a real world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings, then we may take it is a price worth paying.”
― C.S. Lewis
― C.S. Lewis
Here's a thought there are roughly this many moves in chess... 
97,368,504,802,272,205,153,595,678,239,454,304,952,368,475,046,930,119,079,817,985,916,928
97,368,504,802,272,205,153,595,678,239,454,304,952,368,475,046,930,119,079,817,985,916,928
In addition, America's Foundation for Chess found that there were
169,518,829,100,544,000,000,000,000,000 ways to play the first
ten moves of chess. There are more possible moves in a game of
chess than there are atoms in the universe, say some. Yeah, mind
boggling for sure, but God knows every single one of them
There are more 40-move games than the number of electrons in our universe.
There are more game-trees of chess than the number of galaxies (100+ billion), and
more openings, defences, gambits, etc. than the number of quarks in our universe!
--Chesmayne
There are 318,979,564,000 possible ways to play the first four moves of chess.
In addition, America's Foundation for Chess found that there were
169,518,829,100,544,000,000,000,000,000 ways to play the first
ten moves of chess. There are more possible moves in a game of
chess than there are atoms in the universe, say some. Yeah, mind
boggling for sure, but God knows every single one of them
There are more 40-move games than the number of electrons in our universe.
There are more game-trees of chess than the number of galaxies (100+ billion), and
more openings, defences, gambits, etc. than the number of quarks in our universe!
--Chesmayne
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In addition, America's Foundation for Chess found that there were
169,518,829,100,544,000,000,000,000,000 ways to play the first
ten moves of chess. There are more possible moves in a game of
chess than there are atoms in the universe, say some. Yeah, mind
boggling for sure, but God knows every single one of them
There are more 40-move games than the number of electrons in our universe.
There are more game-trees of chess than the number of galaxies (100+ billion), and
more openings, defences, gambits, etc. than the number of quarks in our universe!
--Chesmayne
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I actually have done extensive study more than once on the attributes of God and this is what i have found in Bible. According to the omniscience of God as per the Bible, He knows all things past, present and future no matter what choices we make. He knows what the outcome will be no matter which choice we make. Because God is omniscient there is nothing that surprises God because He knew the outcome before hand.
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Nice write up I agree, Jonah going to Nineveh to tell them to repent is a good example, God already knew the people in that city from the king to the least that all of them would repent, God also knew Jonah was going to be angry no matter the outcome because Jonah wanted the city in ruins no matter if the people repented or not. IMO the story was mostly about Jonah and how he was handling his emotions.