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[preacher4truth]

I wish I would have saved where we caught the two different names being the same person as it was undeniable. The one responded to a post personally that wasn't directed at him as if it was him. Same age, new join date.

I can probably find it, but sure enough it was fnc and another moniker he employs. I told fnc he wasn't "smart" enough to give his other moniker a different age, and his other moniker comes right in and starts the same exact attack fnc was implementing. Even made a blog about it. And at the same time lonerstar joins and begins the same behavior.

 

[SovereignGrace]

yeah

I don't know about that

what about the people the Bible says He hates?

your 'logic' is so convoluted I had to cancel out half my brain to understand what you are trying to say LOL!

Romans 9 answers this. He has objects of wrath and objects of mercy. The objects of mercy were taken from the same lump. The objects of wrath never have His love.

 

[SovereignGrace]

If you think that makes him love them any less.. It would still be wrong

He gave his life for them,,

If my child commits a sin and is sent to a life sentence, It does not mean I love then less. It means I can never have a relationship I desire to have with them ever again..

The way parents love their children is a picture of how God loves His children. When a child does wrong, the parents punish them, correct, chasten them. God chastens those He loves.

Chastening is not CASTING YOUR KIDS INTO AN ETERNAL FURNACE.

That's a twisted form of love. I want no part of that kind of love.

That view of God makes Him a cruel God.

But we're the ones who are accused of having a cruel God?

 

[SovereignGrace]

If you think that makes him love them any less.. It would still be wrong

He gave his life for them,,

If my child commits a sin and is sent to a life sentence, It does not mean I love then less. It means I can never have a relationship I desire to have with them ever again..

[h=3]God Disciplines His Children[/h][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] [/FONT]And have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It say “My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines the one he loves and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.” Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline—then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all.Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.[Hebrews 12:4-11]

God chastens those He loves so that they will share in His holiness. If He loves everyone, then everyone is chastened and will share in His holiness.

#HelloUniversalism

 

[psalm6819]

So the house is on fire...there are five kids but for some reason known only to Himself-
this parent decides to only save Emily and Bobby but leaves Jenni, Eric and little Peggy to burn.

This is the picture of a monster.

This is the way this doctrine represents God, our Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

 

[ForthAngel]

So the house is on fire...there are five kids but for some reason known only to Himself-
this parent decides to only save Emily and Bobby but leaves Jenni, Eric and little Peggy to burn.

This is the picture of a monster.

This is the way this doctrine represents God, our Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

It's more like, 5 convicted rapists, murderers, and thieves are in a burning house. For no reason other than your mercy you decide to save two of them and adopt them as children. The rest are left to burn.

 

[preacher4truth]

So the house is on fire...there are five kids but for some reason known only to Himself-
this parent decides to only save Emily and Bobby but leaves Jenni, Eric and little Peggy to burn.

This is the picture of a monster.

This is the way this doctrine represents God, our Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Great caricature of God! Poor Jesus, He only healed some people, not all, (which is a picture of redemption for God's glory and Sovereignty in electing grace, by the way.) Perhaps you should have been there to tell Him how unfair and unjust He was, right? When did Christianity become leftist liberalism and political correctness? Perhaps there should have been liberals with signs protesting and saying how unfair Jesus was.

I guess I never thought that Romans 9:20 also represents a woman, not just a man replying against God. Now I know it does.

 

[SovereignGrace]

It's more like, 5 convicted rapists, murderers, and thieves are in a burning house. For no reason other than your mercy you decide to save two of them and adopt them as children. The rest are left to burn.

Bingo!! Everybody seems to equate the lost as little kids. Couldn't be further from the truth. The lost are God haters, rebellious to Him, want nothing to do with Him, &c.

 

[Grace777x70]

Jesus healed every person that came to Him. There is not one instance of Him refusing to heal anyone for any reason.

It's representative of "whosever" calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

God so loved the world that He gave....God must find something of value in that He loves. In order to love something - it the eyes of the one who loves - they see value and worth. We are made in His image.

The true gospel of the grace of God in Christ is always the same.

He loved, He gave, we believe and we live.

 

[ForthAngel]

Jesus healed every person that came to Him. There is not one instance of Him refusing to heal anyone for any reason.

It's representative of "whosever" calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

10 And when he was alone, those around him with the twelve asked him about the parables. 11 And he said to them, “To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, 12 so that


“‘they may indeed see but not perceive,
and may indeed hear but not understand,
lest they should turn and be forgiven.’”
13 And he said to them, “Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?

 

[preacher4truth]

God Disciplines His Children

In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.And have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It say “My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines the one he loves and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.”Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father?If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline—then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all.Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live!They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness.No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.[Hebrews 12:4-11]

God chastens those He loves so that they will share in His holiness. If He loves everyone, then everyone is chastened and will share in His holiness.

#HelloUniversalism

Love it! Someone said to me that I called someone a Universalist in a thread. I'm sure I did and that it was earned.

 

[Marano]

It's more like, 5 convicted rapists, murderers, and thieves are in a burning house. For no reason other than your mercy you decide to save two of them and adopt them as children. The rest are left to burn.

I believe most people have a way too high view of man and way too low view of God.

I'll be honest I still don't see the whole picture of how holy God truly is compared to our sins.

To give you an example in prayer I've asked God to purify my mind while I'm dreaming, I feel wretched because I know earthly things abide in me to the point that is what shows up in my dreams.

I want to see God in my life so much that He is part of my dreams too.

 

[SovereignGrace]

So the house is on fire...there are five kids but for some reason known only to Himself-
this parent decides to only save Emily and Bobby but leaves Jenni, Eric and little Peggy to burn.

This is the picture of a monster.

This is the way this doctrine represents God, our Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

But the lost are never shown to be little innocent kids. Yes, Jesus said we must become like little children, in that they trust their parents. But never in the light that they're innocent, pure as the driven snow.

 

[psalm6819]

And strangely enough Jesus calls them lost sheep. I won't argue with your hypocrital, self righteous, self serving ideas of what scriptures means.

You will answer to God for it.

 

[ForthAngel]

And strangely enough Jesus calls them lost sheep. I won't argue with your hypocrital, self righteous, self serving ideas of what scriptures means.

You will answer to God for it.

He calls his sheep lost sheep. He calls the goats, goats.

 

[SovereignGrace]

And strangely enough Jesus calls them lost sheep. I won't argue with your hypocrital, self righteous, self serving ideas of what scriptures means.

You will answer to God for it.

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His children are lost sheep. Yet, not everyone is His child. I am not being hypocritical, and sorry you feel that way, and that my posts come across that way, but God chastens those He loves so that they will share in His holiness. If He loves everyone, then He chastens everyone, then everyone shares in His holiness. That's universalism. That's the context of Hebrews 12:4-11.

 

[preacher4truth]

And strangely enough Jesus calls them lost sheep. I won't argue with your hypocrital, self righteous, self serving ideas of what scriptures means.

You will answer to God for it.

Yes, you want nothing to do with what Scripture means, only what you want it to say.

 

[Marano]

And strangely enough Jesus calls them lost sheep. I won't argue with your hypocrital, self righteous, self serving ideas of what scriptures means.

You will answer to God for it.

You twist what we believe to what you think we believe to have an excuse to hate on us, I'd say you'll have to answer God for it too you call people hypocritical, self righteous and self serving for no reason.

Matthew 12:36King James Version (KJV)
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

 

[oldethennew]

rockrz is quite immature, doesn't offer anything for a profitable engagement, so I don't bother with him.

Let's see, lonerstar joins right about the time fnc and his other moniker went into attack mode, and of the first posts of loneerstar since joining on the 8th, he seeks out my post and goes into attack mode. I can put 2 and 2 together. Funny thing about that is Depleted decided to meddle in that too, and told me he has been around here a long while. Then I pointed out his join date. But meddlers have to meddle and talk when they are clueless as to what they'r talking about.

Anyhow, lonerstar is someone else on here, the timing, the first posts aren't just coincidental, so someone on here has made a new moniker to help lend support to their other moniker in their endeavor to come after me. LOL!!!!!!!!! It is actually hilarious!

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but also very sad!

 

[preacher4truth]

When people claim God is unfair, what they are really saying is that He must submit to their logic.

Therefore in the reality of their self-deception, they are really claiming they are God or at least should be, because they have a differing checklist as to what God must be, and therefore He cannot be God unless He checks in with them first.