I'm Treading Works Salvation...lolzzzzzzz

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And strangely enough Jesus calls them lost sheep. I won't argue with your hypocrital, self righteous, self serving ideas of what scriptures means.

You will answer to God for it.
Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.[/FONT] My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”[John 10:25-30]

There are sheep and there are goats.
 
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It's more like, 5 convicted rapists, murderers, and thieves are in a burning house. For no reason other than your mercy you decide to save two of them and adopt them as children. The rest are left to burn.
That is not God you are describing it is the devil.
 

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When people claim God is unfair, what they are really saying is that He must submit to their logic.

Therefore in the reality of their self-deception, they are really claiming they are God or at least should be, because they have a differing checklist as to what God must be, and therefore He cannot be God unless He checks in with them first.
That's making an idol in their own minds of what they think the true God is, we must understand all of God's character, oftentimes I've seen people say God is love so He wouldn't damm people to hell, well God is love and He shows it in the vessels of mercy, He's also willing to show His other attributes like wrath, power, justice, holiness in His creation, so who am I to say God isn't fair for having created vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? And that He was willing to show His attributes on those too?

[h=1]Romans 9:21-23King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,


Do we want God as the potter or not?[/FONT]
 
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That is not God you are describing it is the devil.
Careful there buddy:

Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit
22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and “by the prince of demons he casts out the demons.” 23 And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 But no one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. Then indeed he may plunder his house.
28 o“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
 
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rockrz is quite immature, doesn't offer anything for a profitable engagement, so I don't bother with him.

Let's see, lonerstar joins right about the time fnc and his other moniker went into attack mode, and of the first posts of loneerstar since joining on the 8th, he seeks out my post and goes into attack mode. I can put 2 and 2 together. Funny thing about that is Depleted decided to meddle in that too, and told me he has been around here a long while. Then I pointed out his join date. But meddlers have to meddle and talk when they are clueless as to what they'r talking about.

Anyhow, lonerstar is someone else on here, the timing, the first posts aren't just coincidental, so someone on here has made a new moniker to help lend support to their other moniker in their endeavor to come after me. LOL!!!!!!!!! It is actually hilarious! :)

One of the side effects of deception is paranoia.
 
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Careful there buddy:

Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit
22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and “by the prince of demons he casts out the demons.” 23 And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 But no one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. Then indeed he may plunder his house.
28 o“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
Oh my, the dreaded reformed Calvinist internet rebuke and scare tactic.

As an aside, it is actually you that should read and heed, because it is you that is attributing the sovereignty of God to works of the devil.

The devil wants to destroy everyone, not God, God would not have anyone perish, but want all to come into repentance.

If anyone needs to understand the verses you posted and their implication it would be you.
 
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Yeah, well, people don't want to see God in heaven. They want to go there as long as they can see their friends and family, but they hope the God of Scripture isn't there.

They won't like Him. He doesn't fit into their box of traditions, of how they've cast Him into a mold of their liking, like some Santa Claus in the sky. A "fair" God which really means a god who submits to their will and design.

Well, He must be all of that, He's been reduced into a bellhop and genie here by false gospels.He's domesticated into a controllable god who has to obey their spoken words of requests for yachts, money, health, mansions. Perhaps these will be excited to see him, this weak god who is a heavenly vending machine and who succumbs to the whim of the covetous desires of the lost men who preach a false gospel.
 
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Yeah, well, people don't want to see God in heaven. They want to go there as long as they can see their friends and family, but they hope the God of Scripture isn't there.

They won't like Him. He doesn't fit into their box of traditions, of how they've cast Him into a mold of their liking, like some Santa Claus in the sky. A "fair" God which really means a god who submits to my will and design.

Well, He must be all of that, He's been reduced into a bellhop and genie here by false gospels.He's domesticated into a controllable god who has to obey their spoken words of requests for yachts, money, health, mansions. Perhaps these will be excited to see him, this weak god who is a heavenly vending machine and who succumbs to the whim of the covetous desires of the lost men who preach a false gospel.
There's a man, Joel Osteen, who wrote a book your best life now, that's the kind of thinking some people have, and you wanna tell me these people worship God and not an idol made up by their own minds?
I think His wife Victoria Osteen even said that when you go to church you don't worship God for God, you worship God for you, so that you feel good, see what some people want to turn worship to? Some feel good category, emotions, but where's the holy spirit? Jesus said the Father is seeking worshipers who will worship Him in spirit and truth.
 
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There's a man, Joel Osteen, who wrote a book your best life now, that's the kind of thinking some people have, and you wanna tell me these people worship God and not an idol made up by their own minds?
I think His wife Victoria Osteen even said that when you go to church you don't worship God for God, you worship God for you, so that you feel good, see what some people want to turn worship to? Some feel good category, emotions, but where's the holy spirit? Jesus said the Father is seeking worshipers who will worship Him in spirit and truth.
If a persons best life is now, then they're going to hell. Osteen is a blasphemous Gospel denying false teacher. He preaches covetousness, so his message is idolatry. His false message offers exactly what Vanity Fair offers to the lost.
 

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If a persons best life is now, then they're going to hell. Osteen is a blasphemous Gospel denying false teacher. He preaches covetousness, so his message is idolatry. His false message offers exactly what Vanity Fair offers to the lost.
Man isn't that the truth? It really shows the nature of his teachings, if someone follows him, I'm afraid for their salvation, if your best life is now, indeed you're going to hell, instead we are instructed to be hopeful in the Lord for our coming redemption: No eye has seen or ear heard what God has prepared for those who love Him.
 
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Above is what is called blasphemy. It is however done in total ignorance of the truth of the God of Scripture.
What would you know about blasphemy? It one of your own that is attributing works of the devil to God.
 
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One of the side effects of worldly wisdom is bickering.
.how "wise" everyone here is.
No need to recruit him, he'll be with you because he's already like you as several have noted: Birds of a feather flock together...
 
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It's not a "recruitment" scheme.

Simple reminder that if you supposedly represent the most High God, then why do you not practice what you preach?

Some folks will listen. Some will just attack.

The Fruits of walking with the Holy Spirit are what?

Paul called knowledge without love, clanging cymbals.

The Fear of God and following His laws are far from many.
 
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And strangely enough Jesus calls them lost sheep. I won't argue with your hypocrital, self righteous, self serving ideas of what scriptures means.

You will answer to God for it.
May I ask why the unseemly attitude towards me?
 
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Not you brother or anyone espousing the heavenly lottery...the doctrine itself.

I believe we, like Adam have a choice.

The Bible says choose...
Life or death?
 
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Not you brother or anyone espousing the heavenly lottery...the doctrine itself.

I believe we, like Adam have a choice.

The Bible says choose...
Life or death?
Seriously, how can you choose life or death when you're already spiritually dead? We were dead in transgressions and sins, per Ephesians 6:1.
 
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Careful there buddy:

Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit
22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and “by the prince of demons he casts out the demons.” 23 And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 But no one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. Then indeed he may plunder his house.
28 o“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
Ppl couldn't care less how they speak to others or how unruly they handle God's word. Sad. Really sad. :(