BAPTISM --- TWICE ??
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The modern church imputes far too much value to water baptism. The Jewish believers had many baptisms that were for ritual cleansing. Remember that Judaism taught covering for sin and washing of sin but never had complete remission for sin.
If one desires to dedicate their child to the Lord through water baptism or christening that is something they should pursue as long as they do not impute salvation to the ritual. Children are innocent before the Lord up to the age where they are able to know right from wrong.
Christian water baptism is for those who have already received salvation from the Lord through grace and by faith.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
If one desires to dedicate their child to the Lord through water baptism or christening that is something they should pursue as long as they do not impute salvation to the ritual. Children are innocent before the Lord up to the age where they are able to know right from wrong.
Christian water baptism is for those who have already received salvation from the Lord through grace and by faith.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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John the Baptist is recorded in every gospel affirming that One will come after him Who is greater than he is, baptizing with the Holy Spirit. Two gospels also add "and with fire." This is the required baptism that leads to eternal life: being born again of the Spirit of God 
In Jeremiah 2:13, we read that God Himself is called the "fountain of living water." For My people have committed two evils: They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living water, And hewn themselves cisterns--broken cisterns that can hold no water. In Isaiah 12:3 we read, "With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation."
*It's interesting that in John 4:10, Jesus mentions "living water" and in John 4:14, Jesus mentions "fountain of water" springing up into everlasting life.
*It's interesting that in John 4:10, Jesus mentions "living water" and in John 4:14, Jesus mentions "fountain of water" springing up into everlasting life.
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In Jeremiah 2:13, we read that God Himself is called the "fountain of living water." For My people have committed two evils: They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living water, And hewn themselves cisterns--broken cisterns that can hold no water. In Isaiah 12:3 we read, "With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation."
*It's interesting that in John 4:10, Jesus mentions "living water" and in John 4:14, Jesus mentions "fountain of water" springing up into everlasting life.
*It's interesting that in John 4:10, Jesus mentions "living water" and in John 4:14, Jesus mentions "fountain of water" springing up into everlasting life.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. [SUP]38 [/SUP]He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.” [SUP]39 [/SUP]But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believingin Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
Well...it's completely fine to disagree!
Just understand that it's not my own premise you are disagreeing with - Paul is the one who said it.
Just understand that it's not my own premise you are disagreeing with - Paul is the one who said it.
Paul was a Pharisee... he would have NEVER said that circumcision for Jews was only a mental/spiritual state of being....
But Paul was talking about spiritual things, comparing the physical circumcision of the Jew to our "spiritual circumcision" as Christians.. he was saying that just being circumcised qualified you to be "Jewish".... but that now, it takes a spiritual circumcision.... a marking of our hearts to be considered a "new Jew", or Christian. Just a physical act won't cut it.... that is also a very bad pun....
Paul was a Pharisee... he would have NEVER said that circumcision for Jews was only a mental/spiritual state of being....
Jew", or Christian. Just a physical act won't cut it.... that is also a very bad pun....Paul was a Pharisee... he would have NEVER said that circumcision for Jews was only a mental/spiritual state of being....
