James 3:16

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I wonder how many saw Jesus, John the Baptist, Paul or maybe one of the prophets as a

bully.....defending the truth does not a bully
make.....I do believe the bolded....!
You see. You did not read with understanding. Standing for the truth it does not mean you should enforce it on others. Jesus told the truth and didn't enforce it on people, but said those who have ears will hear and understand.
 

Magenta

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If every one followed the leadership of the Holy Spirit, we would all agree.
For love does no harm to others, fulfilling all the law and all the prophets...
 

J7

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If every one followed the leadership of the Holy Spirit, we would all agree.

Not really. If we were all perfect, we would all agree. But we are not. We have flesh and fear that most of us still deal with.

Flesh will always argue with the Spirit. Fear will always colour our judgment.

If we were all totally in submission to the Holy Spirit, yes, I suppose we would agree.

But can anyone honestly say they are in perfect alignment with God?
 
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You see. You did not read with understanding. Standing for the truth it does not mean you should enforce it on others. Jesus told the truth and didn't enforce it on people, but said those who have ears will hear and understand.
I read everything that was said and responded with carefully chosen words....now your accusing and judging my motive....the reason most arguments happen on this site.....!
 

Magenta

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When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."
 
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It's not a matter of being wrong or right...why is it difficult to read the word and believe on what it says,rather than trying to prove who is right or wrong. What is written will not change. Yes, we live in the error where everything goes, men sleep with men, women feel they are equal to men,and so on. But the truth stands,these are not possible if we read the word, from the beginning to End." I believe that there is no law supreme than God"! Open for discussion, and don't accuse me of discrimination.
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You misunderstood me,again. But am not offended at all. I think we should let it be....
 

Gabriel2020

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Just what im talking about, wont quit want stop critizing.it just go on and on. People look to tear others down. Makes you wonder whats is wrong. We tell our beliefs you dont agree or disagree, you cut them down.
 

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If every one followed the leadership of the Holy Spirit, we would all agree.
But that's the thing. We all love God, we all read the same Bible (except those who read the MRV) and we all seek the same Holy Spirit - yet we all have different interpretations of the scriptures. Very strange indeed.
 

J7

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Man ist was man isst.

If you read commentaries, or watch those sloppy God channels, (because it is 'God-centred and cannot do any harm' while I am ironing) it is easy to ingest false doctrinal worms that later need to be expunged with a strong remedy.
 
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2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

The biggest thing that people misinterpret according to the Bible is they have to abstain from sin led by the Spirit,for those that name the name of Christ has to depart from iniquity,and do not depart from the living God by the deceitfulness of sin,and awake to righteousness,and sin not,but Paul said not everyone has the knowledge of God,which he speaks to their shame if they hold unto sin,and Paul said if he did not abstain from sin,keep under his body,he would be a castaway.

No person says Jesus is Lord,but by the Holy Ghost,and many are called but few are chosen,which is why many that claim Jesus as Lord will not be able to dwell with,which He said they did not do the will of the Father,and were workeers of iniquity.

But there is millions of people that say sin does not affect their relationship with God,and hold unto sin,and think they are alright with God,but if they do not understand the truth they will be before Jesus saying Lord why can't I dwell with you.

God said they are lovers of pleasures more then lovers of God,loving money,and material things,which the love of God does not dwell in them,and worldiness,which they are not of the Father.
 
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Does anyone have a scripture that would coincide with this thread? Otherwise...it too is going to go down in flames.
Where envy, and strife is there is confusion and every evil work
 
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But that's the thing. We all love God, we all read the same Bible (except those who read the MRV) and we all seek the same Holy Spirit - yet we all have different interpretations of the scriptures. Very strange indeed.

I may be wrong, but I think the problem is in you statement "yet we all have different interpretations of the scriptures"
Some people "interpret" Scripture so as to prove what they already believe or have been taught.
I believe we should study, not interpret Scripture.
We should approach God's Word with an open mind and allow the Word to TEACH us. We must be willing to allow the Word to change our mind. We must understand each word and the context of the passage.
When I began to STUDY God's Word by following this approach some 35 years ago, I realized that much of what I believed as a youth was wrong. The Word has changed my mind on many things.
 
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I wonder if anyone has noticed? Every single thread I look at, there is little scriture shared but a lot of anger and strife is shared instead. I wonder why? Yes.....I'm no less guilty than anyone else. :(
The scripture you alluded to was a good one, but it seems not only to refer to petty arguing, but addresses the evil we confront in the world, on a much larger scale:

For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice. James 3:16 RSV
 
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One thing I've noticed too is that sometimes people might assume that you are teaching something, just because you say it.

"It will", vs. "I think it will".

And people will see one of your comments and assume something about it, and then they build up some image of you in their mind and then no amount of discussion will change it.

"This person is a heretic, they teach <X>"
"That was 20 years ago, they no longer believe <X>"

Another thing that bothers me is when someone insults me, it's really hard to forgive them, and if I do, they probably ignore me anyway, and wouldn't even think to apologize. So it just leaves negativity around. People ignoring each other, having multiple accounts, insults and reporting. It's all just sad.

This is just as relevant as it was back then.

Matthew 18:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Time to remove the 2 people on my ignore list lol.
When you speak the truth you are teaching, for anybody that will accept it.

"Another thing that bothers me is when someone insults me, it's really hard to forgive them, and if I do, they probably ignore me anyway, and wouldn't even think to apologize. So it just leaves negativity around. People ignoring each other, having multiple accounts, insults and reporting. It's all just sad.""

Is it necessary for someone else to do something just because you CHOOSE to forgive them? Nope. Forgiving someone is primarily for you..

I like that...7 times 70....By the time you've forgiven someone 449 times its a rock solid habit of forgiveness. Cool!
 

Zen

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Things are pretty bad but

Romans 8:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

[SUP]15 [/SUP]For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

[SUP]17 [/SUP]And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

[SUP]18 [/SUP]For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
 

AllenW

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Well, I have zero tolerance for bullying. And I must say that this site is full of bullies. People enforce their opinion and understanding about scriptures on others. Take mathematics(e.g Algebra), if you don't follow the BODMAS method, you'll never get the right answer. I always believe that if we are guided by the Holy Spirit, our understanding of the Scriptures will be one.
I believe that everyone is in a different place in their walk with Christ, thus different understandings of Scripture.
It is when we refuse to listen and be stubborn that problems arise.
I've sometimes had to learn the hard way, but that's all part of growing up in Christ.
 

RickyZ

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I may be wrong, but I think the problem is in you statement "yet we all have different interpretations of the scriptures"
Some people "interpret" Scripture so as to prove what they already believe or have been taught.
I believe we should study, not interpret Scripture.
We should approach God's Word with an open mind and allow the Word to TEACH us. We must be willing to allow the Word to change our mind. We must understand each word and the context of the passage.
When I began to STUDY God's Word by following this approach some 35 years ago, I realized that much of what I believed as a youth was wrong. The Word has changed my mind on many things.
You're not wrong, you're absolutely right. You can find a scripture to back up just about any cockamamie idea you conjure up. Our beliefs have to conform to scripture, not the other way around. And a lot get that confused. But even those who go at it with an open mind come up with different ideas.
 

J7

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Jesus was an alien - scripture please
 

RickyZ

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I believe that everyone is in a different place in their walk with Christ, thus different understandings of Scripture.
It is when we refuse to listen and be stubborn that problems arise.
I've sometimes had to learn the hard way, but that's all part of growing up in Christ.
This is true too. God may lead milk drinkers and meat eaters in different ways. And how xyz applies to me in my situation isn't necessarily how it applies in yours. I've always thought that one reason there are so many translations is that God's word is just too big for any of man's languages to encompass.

Another problem is people's polarizations. People see 2 points on a subject and immediately think they are exclusive of each other. We've lost the ability to conceive middle ground, which is where most truths are.