The State of Israel - Authentic or Counterfeit?

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Is the State of Israel Authentic or Counterfeit?

  • Authentic

    Votes: 16 76.2%

  • Counterfeit

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • Total voters
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loveme1

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I have come across black men claiming to be the lost tribes etc.. dressing up and all.. trying to establish the law of Moses....



1 Samuel 16


6And it came to pass, when they were come, that he looked on Eliab, and said, Surely the LORD'S anointed is before him. 7But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart. 8Then Jesse called Abinadab, and made him pass before Samuel. And he said, Neither hath the LORD chosen this. 9Then Jesse made Shammah to pass by. And he said, Neither hath the LORD chosen this



As should we all.
 
Snoozy

Snoozy

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trofimus said:
Read for example The Shepherd of Hermas and see how such genre as Revelation with some symbolic buildings was used in the first centuries.

You understand the text differently than the first Christians. You can say that you, 21st centuries later, have better understanding of what is written. As you wish.

If it is a proper thing to call literal reading "understanding" at all...
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i cant find shepherd of hermas in my bible. next.
 
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pete9

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loveme1 said:
I have come across black men claiming to be the lost tribes etc.. dressing up and all.. trying to establish the law of Moses....
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I have come across white men claiming to be jews, dressing up and all too, trying to start WWIII over the real estate that they desire..
 
trofimus

trofimus

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pete9 said:
I have come across white men claiming to be jews, dressing up and all too, trying to start WWIII over the real estate that they desire..
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It looks it is somehow modern and "in" to claim to be Jew :)
 
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pete9

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#366
trofimus said:
It looks it is somehow modern and "in" to claim to be Jew
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I guess if you can become super-special, just like that, and no one can criticize anything you do without being called names like "jew-hater" and "anti-semite"...when you are treated with more respect by "Christians" than actual Christians are treated with...then it is a pretty soft spot to be in - for now. Also, there are clearly financial benefits, and that club aspect, like freemasonry. I have come to the conclusion that America's churches are, at this point, the most dangerous mess of confusion conceivable. I am now doing my research to find out exactly where it started. There is clearly a huge problem in the 1800s.. Darby, pentecostalism, etc. Churches here are even pushing yoga now!
 
Locutus

Locutus

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It seems to me that the "state" of Israel is akin to what South African apartheid was - with the Palestinians being the "blicks".
 
Bladerunner

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pete9 said:
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

I criticized Judaizing as per Galatians and was basically told that I'm an anti-semite. That propaganda is getting old. I guess I am also "homophobic"..
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Why is anti-semitism around anyway?????
Have you ever thought that if Bible did not tell us that Israel were God's chosen People, would there be anti-semitism????
Why is everyone trying to get rid of them...
.......................It is simple..

If Satan can destroy the people who God will use throughout history to bring us...'Jesus' , then he wins!
If Lucifer can interrupt any ONE of the 8,000+ prophecies of the Bible, He can win!

So those who are antisemites are helping Satan achieve his goals.

For those that are truly antisemites cannot believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ nor can they have the faith that is necessary to be part of Jesus' Church. (Bride). Is this a fair statement????

Now ask yourselves, truthfully now... IF ones believes that the book of Revelation is only symbolic and was completely fulfilled in 70 AD and (what many count as a fact), God released Israel from his protection and placed their blessings he had given them into the Church....... Is this Not ANTISEMITISM????????

Is this Not ANTISEMITISM ( the denying of Israel being the Nation that Jesus will rule Nations From during the Millennium. )??

How can one truly believe in God and yet NOT believe that every word of the Bible was either written by His hand or inspired through 40 different authors.

Can the true Believer in God believe that ALL the Bible(s) written(copied) down through the ages are corrupted without the slightest chance of there being ONE Bible with the full truth as written by God.

Are the statements above NOT ANTI-GOD???????????



 
Snoozy

Snoozy

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Bladerunner said:
Why is anti-semitism around anyway?????
Have you ever thought that if Bible did not tell us that Israel were God's chosen People, would there be anti-semitism????
Why is everyone trying to get rid of them...
.......................It is simple..

If Satan can destroy the people who God will use throughout history to bring us...'Jesus' , then he wins!
If Lucifer can interrupt any ONE of the 8,000+ prophecies of the Bible, He can win!

So those who are antisemites are helping Satan achieve his goals.

For those that are truly antisemites cannot believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ nor can they have the faith that is necessary to be part of Jesus' Church. (Bride). Is this a fair statement????

Now ask yourselves, truthfully now... IF ones believes that the book of Revelation is only symbolic and was completely fulfilled in 70 AD and (what many count as a fact), God released Israel from his protection and placed their blessings he had given them into the Church....... Is this Not ANTISEMITISM????????

Is this Not ANTISEMITISM ( the denying of Israel being the Nation that Jesus will rule Nations From during the Millennium. )??

How can one truly believe in God and yet NOT believe that every word of the Bible was either written by His hand or inspired through 40 different authors.

Can the true Believer in God believe that ALL the Bible(s) written(copied) down through the ages are corrupted without the slightest chance of there being ONE Bible with the full truth as written by God.

Are the statements above NOT ANTI-GOD???????????



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amen this is what it is. God made a promise that Israel will forever be a people and if satan can snuff out israel then satan wins thats why israel have been so much persecuted everywhere.
 
Locutus

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One small antisemitic bump for man, one giant antisemitic bump for mankind.
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loveme1

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Locutus said:
One small antisemitic bump for man, one giant antisemitic bump for mankind.
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They await their king David and all that they believe follows... they seek to establish this in rebellion...

Believe them not hate them either.
 
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oldethennew

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we're talking roots here, world-wide families, scattered throughout -
don't ever take for granted whom you may be 'related' to,..
or when your enlightenment will become apparent...
 
Bladerunner

Bladerunner

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loveme1 said:
They await their king David and all that they believe follows... they seek to establish this in rebellion...

Believe them not hate them either.
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We await for Jesus to set on King Davids throne in Jerusalem. While it won't be a "rebellion", it is apparent that for you and many many others it may be far worse than than your minds can imagine.
 
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loveme1

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Bladerunner said:
We await for Jesus to set on King Davids throne in Jerusalem. While it won't be a "rebellion", it is apparent that for you and many many others it may be far worse than than your minds can imagine.
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How so? My Lord returns the same way He ascended... so if anyone thinks that I'm going to believe man when they proclaim their king David here on earth in flesh then they will have to take my last breath!
 
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kaylagrl

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Wow, over 70 percent said authentic, Im surprised.Some people know history.
 
Locutus

Locutus

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Maybe 70% haven't a clue.

Narrow is the whey..:p
 
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