Donald Trump Bans Transgenders in the Military

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Okay, so transgenders if you prefer. They can pass the physical. Whether or not they are mentally fit is up for debate. Lots of active military members have mental disorders but make it through the psych eval. They still seem to serve just fine. So what disorders disqualify you? I had a professor who's neighbor enlisted with the express desire to know what it was like to kill someone. Made it in. Then of course he got a head injury and was nice and placid after that. The rate of assault in the military is ridiculous, yet these people make it in and serve (although I personally don't think they should). There has been transgender military personnel in the past that served without telling anyone they were transgender. Apparently they passed and did their duty well enough.
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You're not even paying attention to the stories you're posting, are you? You have absolutely no idea of what's happening and have no intention of learning before you speak. Never mind. I expected reality on the News forum, not make-it-up-as-I-go-along.

If there is ever a discussion on who would win a fight -- Mighty Mouse or Superman -- I'll be sure to ask you for your opinion.
 
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I don't say I support the lifestyle whatsoever but many have said they have risked their life for my country so in that case I respect them as an American and as a human.
 
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Well If he said that he knows more than the generals,If he truly believes that,then he Is worst than the typical politician and unfit for POTUS but If he doesn't believe that he knows more than the generals but he said he does anyway,then he Is a strait up liar and he knows that we know!that he knows he Is brazen.
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650 generals. You don't think he knows more that most of them? Since most of them or are in job of a base, how much are you planning on then knowing different bases, I'm taken a wild guess, and think they don't know it all.
 
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650 generals. You don't think he knows more that most of them? Since most of them or are in job of a base, how much are you planning on then knowing different bases, I'm taken a wild guess, and think they don't know it all.
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Before he became POTUS?nope,I don't think he knew more than generals and neither do you unless you are posting for the sake of discussion:)
 
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I'm sure James Mattis knows more than Trump, but some of these generals only know how to kiss butt, look pretty, and collect a $120k paycheck.
 
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The military needs one thing: Soldiers prepared to sacrifice everything for their country. Be it a man, woman, gay, transgender or whatnot.

But, the moment you start making a big deal of being a man, woman, gay, transgender or whatnot, then you ougtha get banned from the service.
 
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You're not even paying attention to the stories you're posting, are you? You have absolutely no idea of what's happening and have no intention of learning before you speak. Never mind. I expected reality on the News forum, not make-it-up-as-I-go-along.

If there is ever a discussion on who would win a fight -- Mighty Mouse or Superman -- I'll be sure to ask you for your opinion.
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Of course I pay attention and no I didn't make those up. No need to get personal.
Here
1 in 4 active military showed signs of mental illness according to a JAMA study https://www.nami.org/Find-Support/Veterans-and-Active-Duty
Psychopaths avoiding detection
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/weekinreview/09carey.html

Assault in the military? Watch the Invisible War.
As for my professor...I'm not giving his personal information to people on the internet.

Hidden transgenders in the Military? A Google search is sufficient, but here
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/weekinreview/09carey.html
 
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We Christians should realize the Demonic influnce that is attacking sound policies in our One Nation under God. A world that has become less and less christian over time do not see our vuews and have our understanding often trying to change right into wrong and wrong into miss understanding of right, no matter of the coast. Communist and Fascist socialist have all predicted over time that the downfall of America would lie in loosing our morals and faith in God. Progressive Globalist with their media along with our liberal education system are Demonically under minding us even more so then ever. We are loosing spiritual war-fare because the majority of our so called Christian do not worship in Spirit are understand warfare and have been watered down with worldly understanding. .
 
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Susanna said:
The military needs one thing: Soldiers prepared to sacrifice everything for their country. Be it a man, woman, gay, transgender or whatnot.
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I dont think its that simple. The military should have the right to pick the best qualified people for the job. I mean, the point of joining the military isnt merely for the sake of dying for your country. Im pretty sure theyd have you survive battle rather than die in it.
 
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"If ya can't lift the shield right, ya can't be in the army. Unit cohesion is life or death, sparky."- Leonidas from 300 (VERY PARAPHRASED)

Yeraza_Bats said:
I dont think its that simple. The military should have the right to pick the best qualified people for the job. I mean, the point of joining the military isnt merely for the sake of dying for your country. Im pretty sure theyd have you survive battle rather than die in it.
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ROSSELLA said:
[video]http://video.foxnews.com/v/5522662440001/[/video]

Donald Trump bans transgenders in the military, despite promising to protect the LGBT community's rights.
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well to be fair,if you are uncertain about your gender,then chances are you will probably be uncertain about fighting for your country,so really not shocking at all.
 
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well to be fair,if you are uncertain about your gender,then chances are you will probably be uncertain about fighting for your country,so really not shocking at all.
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No, that makes no sense whatsoever.
I am certain about my gender.
That does not make me certain about fighting for my country.
One one hand, if we ever want to war, I would want to be useful. On the other hand, I know I would feel like a murderer if I ever took someones life (even if they intended to take mine).

The two are not connected
 
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Wow i wish our presideng did real stuff instead of all this nonsense stuff he does
 
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​ From Bill O Reilly ...


President Trump is banning transgender people from any military service.
What is going to happen here is there is going to be a court fight. I think the courts will rule that Trump can’t ban transgender people from the military. But you can, within the military, assign transgenders to non-combat roles.
What Trump is also objecting to is President Obama ordered that you and me and every other American pay for transgender operations while they are in the military. So Chelsea Manning had her whole transformation from man to woman paid for by the U.S. government.
We shouldn’t have to pay for this. That’s a personal decision and we shouldn’t have to pay for it. But in the end transgender individuals, when the court mandates, will be able to serve but they’ll be assigned to whatever their superiors believe they should be.


Personally,I believe transgenderism is a mental issue.A few are strong enough to stand up to this PC nonsense and are speaking up about it. I do not believe we should pay for their operations,anymore than tax payers should pay for abortions. It seems there are issues with transgenders and safety in the military. If they wish to serve in other areas that fine as long as tax payers do not foot the bill for their operations.

 
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Well said my sister.
kaylagrl said:
​ From Bill O Reilly ...


President Trump is banning transgender people from any military service.
What is going to happen here is there is going to be a court fight. I think the courts will rule that Trump can’t ban transgender people from the military. But you can, within the military, assign transgenders to non-combat roles.
What Trump is also objecting to is President Obama ordered that you and me and every other American pay for transgender operations while they are in the military. So Chelsea Manning had her whole transformation from man to woman paid for by the U.S. government.
We shouldn’t have to pay for this. That’s a personal decision and we shouldn’t have to pay for it. But in the end transgender individuals, when the court mandates, will be able to serve but they’ll be assigned to whatever their superiors believe they should be.


Personally,I believe transgenderism is a mental issue.A few are strong enough to stand up to this PC nonsense and are speaking up about it. I do not believe we should pay for their operations,anymore than tax payers should pay for abortions. It seems there are issues with transgenders and safety in the military. If they wish to serve in other areas that fine as long as tax payers do not foot the bill for their operations.
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