TRIBULATION LIE

[PlainWord]

Paul also wrote to the Church of the Thessalonians. At the time, as we see in Acts 17, this church was under persecution by the Jews living among them. So when Paul writes 2 Thes, he is speaking of these same wicked Jews:

[SUP]4 [/SUP]so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, [SUP]5 [/SUP]which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; [SUP]6 [/SUP]since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, [SUP]7 [/SUP]and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, [SUP]8 [/SUP]in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, [SUP]10 [/SUP]when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

These wicked Church persecuting Jews returned to Jerusalem for Passover, aka, the Feast of Unleavened Bread. These Jews were repaid with tribulation (of the 70 AD siege of Jerusalem). These Jews were trapped inside the city by the surrounding Roman army to be starved, killed by disease, and by sword. All rotten eggs where returned to the basket as was their custom. Their bodies, which were lined up in the streets to be pecked at by vultures, were finally burned in the fires of Jerusalem.

Become a student of history as well as the Bible. Maintain audience integrity. Paul's words were for those he wrote to. He was giving comfort to them. They were to receive rest, not us 2,000 years later.

 

[Deacon_D]

No, those are symbolic expressions found in several other places in the OT. These "cosmic distrubances" are used when foretelling divine wrath coming to wipe out a nation. You will find similar language used to describe the destruction of Egypt, Edom, Israel at the hands of Babylon and Babylon itself at the hands of the Medes and Persians. So when Jesus uses this language in the NT, He's telling us that Israel will once again be destroyed and made desolate, just as before.

My interpretation is solid and you will find nothing in scripture to dispute it. It is the only interpretation that harmonizes all prophesy.

Actually, the true tribulation does not start until Rev. 8. And we got our warning that’s about to happen. The solace was a repentance splice just as it was for Nineveh, if you remember God gave Nineveh forty days to repent.so what put such fear in Nineveh’s heart that made everyone to repent. The answer is Jonah’s preaching and a splice of the sun.

 

[stillness]

You can accuse me, guilty as charged. I am a partial preterist and say that with pride. Nearly every prophesy in the Bible has been fulfilled.

The second advent happened at the fall of Jerusalem (66-70 AD).

Daniel 8:23 is the second world war. It sais it will happen at the time of the end.
Don't feel bad if you can't see this, many Christians can't see this, and we are not save by our understanding of the word, and no need to try to save others with what we think we know. "If any man thinks he knows, he doesn't know as he should." If we think we know we stop learning.
Daniel 12 is the third world war, it will happen in my Lifetime.
34 years, the Lord told me: Behold I Am with you in a time of trouble such as never was and shall never be again.
When Jesus was 31 (give or take a year), He said, "Today and tomorrow, I heal the sick and cast out devils and the third day I shall be perfected. mathematically this "Time of trouble such as never was," Prophesied in Daniel 12, ends around 2031. Then in Revelations it sais He reigns for a thousand years, with those who suffered with Him. "The third day I shall be perfected." But reassure me that you cant hear anything I say and I will stop. "The rest of the dead are not raised until the thousand years are fulfilled."

 

[MattforJesus]

Daniel 8:23 is the second world war. It sais it will happen at the time of the end.
Don't feel bad if you can't see this, many Christians can't see this, and we are not save by our understanding of the word, and no need to try to save others with what we think we know. "If any man thinks he knows, he doesn't know as he should." If we think we know we stop learning.
Daniel 12 is the third world war, it will happen in my Lifetime.
34 years, the Lord told me: Behold I Am with you in a time of trouble such as never was and shall never be again.
When Jesus was 31 (give or take a year), He said, "Today and tomorrow, I heal the sick and cast out devils and the third day I shall be perfected. mathematically this "Time of trouble such as never was," Prophesied in Daniel 12, ends around 2031. Then in Revelations it sais He reigns for a thousand years, with those who suffered with Him. "The third day I shall be perfected." But reassure me that you cant hear anything I say and I will stop. "The rest of the dead are not raised until the thousand years are fulfilled."

Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Daniel 8:23 is not the second world war,but when the transgressors are come to the full,which is when they are at their most rebellious,operating by a ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections,with a leader in each section,and a unified religious system based on the new age movement that interprets the Bible according to spiritual evolution through nature,and witchcraft,and it will be a hate crime for someone to try to convert someone to their religion,punishable in the international criminal court system,and Christianity will rapidly decline in impacting the world with the truth,which will be the time they will not endure the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,the new age movement and evolving to be greater through nature.

They will operate for three and one half years by the ten horn kingdom,and unified religious system,and against the law to preach Christianity worldwide,and the transgressors will have come to the full at the end of that time,and they will accept the man of sin,the beast,who will be a king of fierce countenance,and understanding dark sentences,who will speak like no other person they heard,and will be in to the occult,for he will cause craft,witchcraft,to prosper,and will persecute all Christians,but he shall be put down by Jesus.

 

[PlainWord]

Daniel 8:23 is the second world war. It sais it will happen at the time of the end.
Don't feel bad if you can't see this, many Christians can't see this, and we are not save by our understanding of the word, and no need to try to save others with what we think we know. "If any man thinks he knows, he doesn't know as he should." If we think we know we stop learning.
Daniel 12 is the third world war, it will happen in my Lifetime.
34 years, the Lord told me: Behold I Am with you in a time of trouble such as never was and shall never be again.
When Jesus was 31 (give or take a year), He said, "Today and tomorrow, I heal the sick and cast out devils and the third day I shall be perfected. mathematically this "Time of trouble such as never was," Prophesied in Daniel 12, ends around 2031. Then in Revelations it sais He reigns for a thousand years, with those who suffered with Him. "The third day I shall be perfected." But reassure me that you cant hear anything I say and I will stop. "The rest of the dead are not raised until the thousand years are fulfilled."

LOL. Dan 8 dealt with Antiochus IV Epiphanes in the 2nd century BC. Every scholar agrees. So, you are showing your lack of knowledge in these areas.

Dan 12 dealt with Jerusalem of 70 AD. This was the time of trouble like no other to befall Daniel's people.

 

[PlainWord]

Actually, the true tribulation does not start until Rev. 8. And we got our warning that’s about to happen. The solace was a repentance splice just as it was for Nineveh, if you remember God gave Nineveh forty days to repent.so what put such fear in Nineveh’s heart that made everyone to repent. The answer is Jonah’s preaching and a splice of the sun.

The trumpets of Rev 8 occurred in first century Israel. Every last one of them have been fulfilled. If you are not a student of history, I guess you wouldn't know this.

Trump 1: All green grass and 1/3 of trees burned up. This was Rome executing their scorched earth policy starting in the north and west of Jerusalem. Rome first attacked the smaller cities in the country, killing or capturing many. Others fled all over with a lot going to Jerusalem believing it to be safe there.

Trump 2: Great mountain thrown into sea. "Mountain" denotes a nation or city. A city near Galilee (I forgot which one) was literally burned to the ground, the people tried to escape by crossing Galilee. They were caught, slaughtered and their ships destroyed. There was so much blood that the sea turned red.

Shall I continue?

 

[Deacon_D]

Right. That was Antiochus iv alright.looks like someone is up to snuff. Lol.

 

[PlainWord]

Dan 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Daniel 8:23 is not the second world war,but when the transgressors are come to the full,which is when they are at their most rebellious,operating by a ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections,with a leader in each section,and a unified religious system based on the new age movement that interprets the Bible according to spiritual evolution through nature,and witchcraft,and it will be a hate crime for someone to try to convert someone to their religion,punishable in the international criminal court system,and Christianity will rapidly decline in impacting the world with the truth,which will be the time they will not endure the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,the new age movement and evolving to be greater through nature.

They will operate for three and one half years by the ten horn kingdom,and unified religious system,and against the law to preach Christianity worldwide,and the transgressors will have come to the full at the end of that time,and they will accept the man of sin,the beast,who will be a king of fierce countenance,and understanding dark sentences,who will speak like no other person they heard,and will be in to the occult,for he will cause craft,witchcraft,to prosper,and will persecute all Christians,but he shall be put down by Jesus.

Good grief!! We are told right here who this was about. Can't anyone else read???

[SUP]20 [/SUP]The ram which you saw, having the two horns—they are the kings of Media and Persia. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And the male goat is the kingdom of Greece. The large horn that is between its eyes is the first king. [SUP]22 [/SUP]As for the broken horn and the four that stood up in its place, four kingdoms shall arise out of that nation, but not with its power.

The first king was Alexander, the four horns that stood up were his four generals who led 4 divided kingdoms of Greece. Towards the end of the Seleucid Empire, under Antiochus IV Epiphanes, they invaded Israel, desecrated the temple by sacrificing a pig. They killed eighty thousand Jews and overthrew the government until the Maccabean Revolt. The Maccabees routed the Seleucids and cleansed the temple, exactly 2,300 evening-mornings (or 1,150 days as we know them) later, just as Daniel foretold.

I'm shocked at how much lack of understanding there is among futurists. Study history people. I can't stress that enough.

 

[Muzungu256]

The trumpets of Rev 8 occurred in first century Israel. Every last one of them have been fulfilled. If you are not a student of history, I guess you wouldn't know this.

Trump 1: All green grass and 1/3 of trees burned up. This was Rome executing their scorched earth policy starting in the north and west of Jerusalem. Rome first attacked the smaller cities in the country, killing or capturing many. Others fled all over with a lot going to Jerusalem believing it to be safe there.

Trump 2: Great mountain thrown into sea. "Mountain" denotes a nation or city. A city near Galilee (I forgot which one) was literally burned to the ground, the people tried to escape by crossing Galilee. They were caught, slaughtered and their ships destroyed. There was so much blood that the sea turned red.

Shall I continue?

yes please continue i wanna know all the seals trumpets and vials please. in such short detail!!!!!!! go go go!

can we also go over the parts in the bible that talk about america and jets and iphones? that'd be a short list i bet!!!!!!

 

[stillness]

Can you aĺl see the trouble with thinking we know, "If I have all knowlege and have not Love I am nothing. While it's not possible to have aĺl knowelge, why cling to fables out of fear of leting go, what we think we know.

 

[Deacon_D]

Can you aĺl see the trouble with thinking we know, "If I have all knowlege and have not Love I am nothing. While it's not possible to have aĺl knowelge, why cling to fables out of fear of leting go, what we think we know.

Just because I’m having fun doesn’t I don’t have love. If I didn’t have I would just sit back and not tell you anything. I am even ignoring my wife to inform us of that which God has been so gracious to give me. Yes I think I have love

 

[PlainWord]

yes please continue i wanna know all the seals trumpets and vials please. in such short detail!!!!!!! go go go!

can we also go over the parts in the bible that talk about america and jets and iphones? that'd be a short list i bet!!!!!!

LOL. No America, no rocket ship, no cars, planes, trains or automobiles (sorry John Candy). According to futurists, barely any mention is made about the final destruction (for 1900 years) of Israel although such great detail is given about every other period of Israel's prior 2,000 year history.

God sent a host of prophets to warn her so that they would repent and turn from their sins before He brought Babylon against her but we are to believe that He gave virtually no warning before 70 AD?

As for the seals, trumps and bowls, that would be a multi- part post and I don't have time to start it now, got to get ready for church. I live in Vegas, so should be a great service today.

 

[Deacon_D]

yes please continue i wanna know all the seals trumpets and vials please. in such short detail!!!!!!! go go go!

can we also go over the parts in the bible that talk about america and jets and iphones? that'd be a short list i bet!!!!!!

Don’t worry you’ll live or should I say die in them it’s America and it might be this winter depending on which side of the fence your on.

 

[PlainWord]

Don’t worry you’ll live or should I say die in them it’s America and it might be this winter depending on which side of the fence your on.

Except for the fact that they all applied to the first century, Israel and Rome. So it's a pretty safe bet none of us will die in them. We will all die, however, then judgment.

Heb 9: [SUP]27 [/SUP]And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment...

If the seals, trumps and bowls didn't apply to the first century, please point out all the passages that foretell the 66-70 AD events and the end of Israel. To skip telling of the end would be like writing a biography on someone important's life and leaving out their death and the circumstance around it.

 

[Locutus]

PLW - don't be dropping those gambling chips in the church coffers...

 

[MattforJesus]

The kingdom restored to Israel has to be a future event.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Jer 46:27 But fear not thou, O my servant Jacob, and be not dismayed, O Israel: for, behold, I will save thee from afar off, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and be in rest and at ease, and none shall make him afraid.
Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

The kingdom on earth being restored to Israel in which there will be no operating Gentile government,which has not happened yet,and the heathen have to go up year after year to Jerusalem to worship the LORD.

This is obviously a future event,for the kingdom has not been restored to the Jews as of yet,for when it is then Israel as a nation will accept Jesus as their Messiah,which they have not done yet.

Israel is blinded in part,until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,which we see salvation is still available to the Gentiles,so Israel is still blinded in part,and the kingdom has not been restored to them even before Jesus was manifest in the flesh,for the Roman Empire controlled there,and they still do not have the kingdom restored to them,for the Gentiles are greater than them,and when the Gentiles no longer have salvation available to them,then God will turn Israel as a nation to the truth,and so all Israel shall be saved.

But we see this never happened yet,so it has to be a future event.

God said He will make a full end of all Gentile governments,but they are still in operation,but will not make a full end of Israel,and restore the kingdom to her,but this has not happened yet.

And when God does restore the kingdom to Israel,the LORD is ruling on earth,for in that day there shall be one LORD,and His name one,which means nobody will recognize any religious figure,or god,but only the LORD,and the heathen have to go up year after year to Jerusalem,and worship the LORD.

That never happened yet,so it is a future event in which Jesus will rule on earth.

 

[Deacon_D]

Except for the fact that they all applied to the first century, Israel and Rome. So it's a pretty safe bet none of us will die in them. We will all die, however, then judgment.

Heb 9: [SUP]27 [/SUP]And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment...

If the seals, trumps and bowls didn't apply to the first century, please point out all the passages that foretell the 66-70 AD events and the end of Israel. To skip telling of the end would be like writing a biography on someone important's life and leaving out their death and the circumstance around it.

thats false. You need to receck where all the marbles are lying.

 

[MattforJesus]

Nah 2:3 The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation, and the fir trees shall be terribly shaken.
Nah 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

Obviously talking about automobiles that shall be in the day of the LORD's preparation.

Automobiles,headlights,close knit traffic,and moving fast.That cannot apply to the chariots back then.

Isa 31:4 For thus hath the LORD spoken unto me, Like as the lion and the young lion roaring on his prey, when a multitude of shepherds is called forth against him, he will not be afraid of their voice, nor abase himself for the noise of them: so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.
Isa 31:5 As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.

As birds flying sounds like jets,which fighter pilots paved the way to win the six day war,and take control of Jerusalem.

Rev 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
Rev 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

They sure did not have this kind of weapon back in the first century.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The 4th beast shall devour the whole earth,tread it down,and break it in pieces,which the Roman Empire in the first century did not have the capacity to do that.

The beast kingdom shall have power over all nations,kindreds,and tongues.All nations is all nations,and the Roman Empire in the first century did not have dominion like that,far from it.

The ten horns is the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and the beast plucks up three of those horns by the roots,nuclear weapons as described in Revelation 9,for they did not have that kind of weapon in the first century.

The saints shall be hated of all nations,the Gospel will be preached in to all the world,as a witness to all nations,and the saints will hear of wars,and rumors of wars,and nation against nation,and kingdom against kingdom,and famines,and pestilences,and earthquakes,that will happen on different places on earth,but how are the supposed to know that without technology to be able to know what is happening on the earth.

Daniel did not understand what was told him,but was told they will understand at the time of the end,because of advanced travel,and technology,because they can see,and know,what the world is doing,and how it is possible for them to come together.

God said He is going to gather all nations against Jerusalem,and not even the then known world in the first century went against Jerusalem,for it was only the Roman Empire,Was the Arab countries going against them too.Was Asia,and Egypt,and Africa also going against them.Were every single nation of Europe going against them.

They were not.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

This is concerning the new age movement,and their interpretation of the Bible based on spiritual evolution through nature,witchcraft,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher in spiritual enlightenment,and the man of sin will promote the new age movement,which this will occur at the latter times.

The latter times was not back at the first century,for the latter times is the last days of the last days,real close to the resurrection of the saints,and the new age movement was not back then.

 

[Deacon_D]

Nah 2:3 The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation, and the fir trees shall be terribly shaken.
Nah 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

Obviously talking about automobiles that shall be in the day of the LORD's preparation.

Automobiles,headlights,close knit traffic,and moving fast.That cannot apply to the chariots back then.

Isa 31:4 For thus hath the LORD spoken unto me, Like as the lion and the young lion roaring on his prey, when a multitude of shepherds is called forth against him, he will not be afraid of their voice, nor abase himself for the noise of them: so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.
Isa 31:5 As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.

As birds flying sounds like jets,which fighter pilots paved the way to win the six day war,and take control of Jerusalem.

Rev 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
Rev 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

They sure did not have this kind of weapon back in the first century.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The 4th beast shall devour the whole earth,tread it down,and break it in pieces,which the Roman Empire in the first century did not have the capacity to do that.

The beast kingdom shall have power over all nations,kindreds,and tongues.All nations is all nations,and the Roman Empire in the first century did not have dominion like that,far from it.

The ten horns is the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and the beast plucks up three of those horns by the roots,nuclear weapons as described in Revelation 9,for they did not have that kind of weapon in the first century.

The saints shall be hated of all nations,the Gospel will be preached in to all the world,as a witness to all nations,and the saints will hear of wars,and rumors of wars,and nation against nation,and kingdom against kingdom,and famines,and pestilences,and earthquakes,that will happen on different places on earth,but how are the supposed to know that without technology to be able to know what is happening on the earth.

Daniel did not understand what was told him,but was told they will understand at the time of the end,because of advanced travel,and technology,because they can see,and know,what the world is doing,and how it is possible for them to come together.

God said He is going to gather all nations against Jerusalem,and not even the then known world in the first century went against Jerusalem,for it was only the Roman Empire,Was the Arab countries going against them too.Was Asia,and Egypt,and Africa also going against them.Were every single nation of Europe going against them.

They were not.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

This is concerning the new age movement,and their interpretation of the Bible based on spiritual evolution through nature,witchcraft,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher in spiritual enlightenment,and the man of sin will promote the new age movement,which this will occur at the latter times.

The latter times was not back at the first century,for the latter times is the last days of the last days,real close to the resurrection of the saints,and the new age movement was not back then.

Why do I have to read a book to find out what you want me to know? Please use the short form. Others want talk to me.

 

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Mat 24:21-22, "For then will be great tribulation, such as has not come to pass since the beginning of the world to this time--no, nor ever will be. And unless those days were shortened, there would no flesh be saved; but for the elect's sake, those days will be shortened."

Revelation 8:2, "And I saw the seven messengers who stand before Yah, and to them were given seven trumpets."

1 Corinthians 15:50-54, "Now I say this brothers: that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of Yahweh; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.Behold, I show you a secret truth: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible will have put on incorruption, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will be brought to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory."

Mat 24:29-31, "Immediately, but after the tribulation of those days will the sun be darkened, and the moon will not give her light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven; and then will all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His malakim with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of earth to the other."