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Again, it's about what the Word teaches PH, not your religious tradition.
If God says not to kill people, and you reject His Word, rebel against Him, and continue to kill people, you will not inherit eternal life, according to the bible.
I love the cleaver way you try and separate God from His Word, and change the subject instead of continuing in the discussion about Col. 2.
Why not be honest and phrase this sentence in a way that edifies.
"Or if we lack obedience to God/Jesus, who created His instructions for man, do we also lack eternal life?"
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
But you preach these are "nailed to the Cross", Rudiments of the World", "tradition of men" and are against us.
"19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God."
But you preach these are "Rudiments of the World" "Vain deceits" that are "against us" which are nailed to the cross.
12 "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good."
But you preach God's Laws are a burden, and Yoke that is against us, "Contrary to us" "vain deceits" and Jesus nailed it to His Cross.
The point of my OP was to point out the man made preaching that Jesus specifically warned about.
You seem to want to get away from the Col. 2 points. But if your understanding of scriptures can't be supported with the bible isn't that something you should be interested in?
I mean given all the warnings about "men" teaching vain deceit, men coming in Jesus name and deceiving people, satan disguising itself as a "minister of righteousness". How can you not be at least curious about the Mainstream Preaching on Col. 2 that paints God's Instructions in such a bad light?
If God says not to kill people, and you reject His Word, rebel against Him, and continue to kill people, you will not inherit eternal life, according to the bible.
I love the cleaver way you try and separate God from His Word, and change the subject instead of continuing in the discussion about Col. 2.
Why not be honest and phrase this sentence in a way that edifies.
"Or if we lack obedience to God/Jesus, who created His instructions for man, do we also lack eternal life?"
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
But you preach these are "nailed to the Cross", Rudiments of the World", "tradition of men" and are against us.
"19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God."
But you preach these are "Rudiments of the World" "Vain deceits" that are "against us" which are nailed to the cross.
12 "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good."
But you preach God's Laws are a burden, and Yoke that is against us, "Contrary to us" "vain deceits" and Jesus nailed it to His Cross.
The point of my OP was to point out the man made preaching that Jesus specifically warned about.
You seem to want to get away from the Col. 2 points. But if your understanding of scriptures can't be supported with the bible isn't that something you should be interested in?
I mean given all the warnings about "men" teaching vain deceit, men coming in Jesus name and deceiving people, satan disguising itself as a "minister of righteousness". How can you not be at least curious about the Mainstream Preaching on Col. 2 that paints God's Instructions in such a bad light?
Brother,
If you were preaching the judgement, the gospel that Jesus died, was buried, was resurrected, Acts 2:38, and that God is love (spirit),
To people who had never heard of the gospel, Israel, or God before, say some isolated island 300 years ago,
And that's all the time you had to tell them and they obeyed the gospel, then you left.
Without explaining anything about the Law and the Prophets, didn't leave them a Bible, they didn't know the history of Israel.
They would still be saved without ever knowing the 10 and the rest.
They could live there lives and be saved without ever hearing the words, you shall not steal, you shall not lie.
Because they love, they will be love, with the gift of the Spirit just like you and I.
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1 Cor 1:18, "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us that are saved it is the power of God."
The gospel is the cross, not the Law.
So which are you preaching?
The gospel of the cross, or keep the Law?
If you were preaching the judgement, the gospel that Jesus died, was buried, was resurrected, Acts 2:38, and that God is love (spirit),
To people who had never heard of the gospel, Israel, or God before, say some isolated island 300 years ago,
And that's all the time you had to tell them and they obeyed the gospel, then you left.
Without explaining anything about the Law and the Prophets, didn't leave them a Bible, they didn't know the history of Israel.
They would still be saved without ever knowing the 10 and the rest.
They could live there lives and be saved without ever hearing the words, you shall not steal, you shall not lie.
Because they love, they will be love, with the gift of the Spirit just like you and I.
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1 Cor 1:18, "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us that are saved it is the power of God."
The gospel is the cross, not the Law.
So which are you preaching?
The gospel of the cross, or keep the Law?
Here is my answer to the question and more.
Due to the quirks of the site I edited this offline and am pasting it to the board. Selecting texts and going back and forth from the browser to get something to paste often times exits me from the open post I was trying to make. Never had this many problems on other forums.
I believe in usidng the KISS method, (Keep It Simple Stupid). Here is the Gospel (good news) using this method with scripture references.
The law is the 10 Commandments and the 613 mitzvot (commandments) recorded in the Torah, Genesis thru Deuteronomy.
FIRST
The law exists today according to Jesus.
Matthew 5:17 to 20 NIV
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
SECOND
The law defines what is sin. Without the law there is no sin. Paul said the law told him what was sin.
Romans 7:7 to 13
The Law and Sin
7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10 I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11 For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12 So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.
13 Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.
THIRD
1. All have sinned, (broken the law).
2. Christ's sacrifice redeems us from the Law. (This is the great fact of the Gospel.)
Romans 3:19 to 31
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
The death and resurrection of Jesus finished his coming as the Lamb of God sacrificing himself to redeem all who accept His sacrifice for their sins.
Due to the quirks of the site I edited this offline and am pasting it to the board. Selecting texts and going back and forth from the browser to get something to paste often times exits me from the open post I was trying to make. Never had this many problems on other forums.
I believe in usidng the KISS method, (Keep It Simple Stupid). Here is the Gospel (good news) using this method with scripture references.
The law is the 10 Commandments and the 613 mitzvot (commandments) recorded in the Torah, Genesis thru Deuteronomy.
FIRST
The law exists today according to Jesus.
Matthew 5:17 to 20 NIV
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
SECOND
The law defines what is sin. Without the law there is no sin. Paul said the law told him what was sin.
Romans 7:7 to 13
The Law and Sin
7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10 I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11 For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12 So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.
13 Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.
THIRD
1. All have sinned, (broken the law).
2. Christ's sacrifice redeems us from the Law. (This is the great fact of the Gospel.)
Romans 3:19 to 31
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
The death and resurrection of Jesus finished his coming as the Lamb of God sacrificing himself to redeem all who accept His sacrifice for their sins.
Thanks for your reply brother.
The Prophets job is in part to preach "repent" and turn to God. If the guy on an island believed and received the words of the Prophet, then according to the Bible, God would write His Laws on the guys heart, yes?
Not the traditions of man or made religious works or images of God created after the likeness of man. But the Holy, Just, Good, and perfect Laws of God.
And if they truly love God, they will choose His Word written in their hearts, over the traditions and man made doctrines taught by man.
Jesus died so my transgressions could be forgiven, not so I can continue to transgress.
The Prophets job is in part to preach "repent" and turn to God. If the guy on an island believed and received the words of the Prophet, then according to the Bible, God would write His Laws on the guys heart, yes?
Not the traditions of man or made religious works or images of God created after the likeness of man. But the Holy, Just, Good, and perfect Laws of God.
And if they truly love God, they will choose His Word written in their hearts, over the traditions and man made doctrines taught by man.
Jesus died so my transgressions could be forgiven, not so I can continue to transgress.
This is a can of worms you open. There is no difinative answer since both sides quote scripture to back up their position. Round and round the argument goes without end. You need to just agree to disagree. It is a peripheral belief and has nothing to do with salvation.
The Apostles Creed was created to define who was a Christian and who was not. It was created when a big difference of opinion was threatening to tear apart the church. The decision was made about what a Christian is was thought out and the Apostles Creed was created. Everything else is to be considered ideas that we agree to disagree on.
The Apostles Creed was created to define who was a Christian and who was not. It was created when a big difference of opinion was threatening to tear apart the church. The decision was made about what a Christian is was thought out and the Apostles Creed was created. Everything else is to be considered ideas that we agree to disagree on.
Endoscopy,
I think that the can of worms is already open, I'm just adding a little salt, so they taste better, ha ha.
Col 2:12, "Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead."
We are risen with Him through faith, not the Law.
The gentiles who are saved, are saved by the preaching of the gospel and not the Law.
If we say that we are saved by keeping a/the Law, then we do not need faith, but we have faith and grace without the Law.
And I mean any law, any law needed for salvation is against faith, cancels faith, because then we seek to please God by Law and not faith.
Gentiles never need to hear the Law to be saved. And they do not have to observe the Sabbath ritual.
The Law does not need to be explained to be a Christian. Does not need to be understood to be a Christian.
Gentile branches who have become Christians, have the Holy Spirit of God, there is no Law necessary.
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I think that the can of worms is already open, I'm just adding a little salt, so they taste better, ha ha.
Col 2:12, "Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead."
We are risen with Him through faith, not the Law.
The gentiles who are saved, are saved by the preaching of the gospel and not the Law.
If we say that we are saved by keeping a/the Law, then we do not need faith, but we have faith and grace without the Law.
And I mean any law, any law needed for salvation is against faith, cancels faith, because then we seek to please God by Law and not faith.
Gentiles never need to hear the Law to be saved. And they do not have to observe the Sabbath ritual.
The Law does not need to be explained to be a Christian. Does not need to be understood to be a Christian.
Gentile branches who have become Christians, have the Holy Spirit of God, there is no Law necessary.
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You just spoke of torture and murder without reference to person - but if anyone is persecuted for the sake of the Lord then who is it that is really being despised and suffering maltreatment? Does Christ really live in us or is that mere figure of speech?
Yet it doesn't even require any physical harm in order for Him to be crucified anew:
Hebrews 6:4-6
For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.
We'd do well to comprehend the parallel of what is written here to the condemnation and shame Paul speaks to the Galatians about, and acquit ourselves of reading an encouragement towards repeating the same error into this chapter of his letter to Collosae.
Yet it doesn't even require any physical harm in order for Him to be crucified anew:
Hebrews 6:4-6
For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.
We'd do well to comprehend the parallel of what is written here to the condemnation and shame Paul speaks to the Galatians about, and acquit ourselves of reading an encouragement towards repeating the same error into this chapter of his letter to Collosae.
It is false to say there is no sin without the law. The law came long after sin entered the world. What scripture says is the law brings knowledge of sin, and that without it there is no transgression of it - not that there's no sin without it. How did Satan sin before Moses was even placed in the river, in a basket?
Are you disputing what Jesus said about the law? He said he came to fulfill the law and the prophets. That the law would remain until heaven and earth disappear. Therefore the law is in place as it needs to be. As Paul said the law let's him know what sin is. No law no sin since sin is transgression of the law.
Jesus sacrificed Himself to allow us to accept Him as savior letting His blood remove our sins. Without the law there is no need for forgiveness.
Jesus sacrificed Himself to allow us to accept Him as savior letting His blood remove our sins. Without the law there is no need for forgiveness.
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I understand the desire to create analogies and use scriptures to justify a religion you were born into to. But your analogy doesn't change the Word's of God.
God has never left anyone who truly seek Him without instruction. Jesus created His Sabbath before becoming a man. He created it "FOR MAN", His Word's not mine.
Since I believe Jesus is smarter than me, and given I have Faith that His Word can be trusted, I believe there is a reason why He thinks man needs His Sabbath.
Now that I have humbled myself to His Teachings, I am able to see, by His Grace, why it is needful for man to have His Sabbaths. But those who reject His Word's, those who don't believe He created His Sabbath for man, can not possibly understand His Reasoning.
Paul speaks to this in Col. 2:
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
These things come from God, not man, therefore we are not to be deterred from our Faith in Him.
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
This explains why the Pharisees and Jesus didn't see eye to eye on God's Word. The mainstream preachers of His time were following man made traditions and Jesus was walking in His Fathers Commandments.
You should read about Caleb in the examples God had written for our admonition.
Num. 14:21 But as truly as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the LORD.
22 Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;
23 Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:
24 But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.
I'm pretty sure God is no respecter of persons, He would give the islanders the same gospel as He gave the rest if us.
God has never left anyone who truly seek Him without instruction. Jesus created His Sabbath before becoming a man. He created it "FOR MAN", His Word's not mine.
Since I believe Jesus is smarter than me, and given I have Faith that His Word can be trusted, I believe there is a reason why He thinks man needs His Sabbath.
Now that I have humbled myself to His Teachings, I am able to see, by His Grace, why it is needful for man to have His Sabbaths. But those who reject His Word's, those who don't believe He created His Sabbath for man, can not possibly understand His Reasoning.
Paul speaks to this in Col. 2:
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
These things come from God, not man, therefore we are not to be deterred from our Faith in Him.
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
This explains why the Pharisees and Jesus didn't see eye to eye on God's Word. The mainstream preachers of His time were following man made traditions and Jesus was walking in His Fathers Commandments.
You should read about Caleb in the examples God had written for our admonition.
Num. 14:21 But as truly as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the LORD.
22 Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;
23 Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:
24 But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.
I'm pretty sure God is no respecter of persons, He would give the islanders the same gospel as He gave the rest if us.
You have already established that your understanding of Col 2 is flawed because you have bought into the false teaching that God's Laws are "Rudiments of the World, vain deceit, and tradition of men". And that Jesus triumphed over God and made a show of Him openly, spoiling Him, when He died on the cross.
If you truly believe these things, then maybe it is you who needs understand the Heb. 6 scriptures.
If you truly believe these things, then maybe it is you who needs understand the Heb. 6 scriptures.
In your religion this is true. But God's Word has a different teaching.
Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God(Jesus, before becoming a man) created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
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But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I (Jesus) have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
Eve has this very same choice as did every one else, including Abraham, Abel, Stephen and Peter.
Because you have bought into the false teaching that there was no Law before Moses, you can't understand that with which you speak of.
6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
The choice God/Jesus gave mankind was created from the foundation of the world. "Light and Darkness".
Eve had God's Word,(Law) and she had her own mind, as do we all. We all will be judged by the choice we make.
Your preaching that they didn't have God's Instructions is widely taught, and "Many" preach and believe it. But as prophesied, these teachings are a vision of man's mind, not God.
This is part of the "Vain deceit" and the "rudiments of the World" and the "tradition of men" that Paul, and the Bible, has been warning about since Jesus told Cain to rule over his flesh.
Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God(Jesus, before becoming a man) created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
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But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I (Jesus) have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
Eve has this very same choice as did every one else, including Abraham, Abel, Stephen and Peter.
Because you have bought into the false teaching that there was no Law before Moses, you can't understand that with which you speak of.
6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
The choice God/Jesus gave mankind was created from the foundation of the world. "Light and Darkness".
Eve had God's Word,(Law) and she had her own mind, as do we all. We all will be judged by the choice we make.
Your preaching that they didn't have God's Instructions is widely taught, and "Many" preach and believe it. But as prophesied, these teachings are a vision of man's mind, not God.
This is part of the "Vain deceit" and the "rudiments of the World" and the "tradition of men" that Paul, and the Bible, has been warning about since Jesus told Cain to rule over his flesh.
So who then, is the adulterous wife? Is she the one who creates images of God after the likeness of some Play Girl centerfold, or some men's hair shampoo model?
Who is the adulterous woman, the one who transgresses God's Commandments and creates their own commandments?
Who is the adulterous woman, is it the church that creates High Days and places them on ancient pagan festivals and places Jesus name on it, while at the same time rejecting her Husbands instructions that He created specifically for her?
Who is the faithful wife? "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
Who is the Faithful wife? "But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.
Who is the adulterous woman, the one who transgresses God's Commandments and creates their own commandments?
Who is the adulterous woman, is it the church that creates High Days and places them on ancient pagan festivals and places Jesus name on it, while at the same time rejecting her Husbands instructions that He created specifically for her?
Who is the faithful wife? "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
Who is the Faithful wife? "But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.
No, and the word of God says that the Sabbath was given to ISRAEL
No, and the letters in the New Testament ignore the Sabbath Day.
GOD first gave the Sabbath to Israel (Exod 16). When Jesus said it was 'made for man' He relegated it. He meant for man to benefit by while it was in use. But He Himself never ONCE taught Sabbath Observance.
If you do you will have to accept His teaching, which relegated it.,
No, man DID need the Sabbath as a rest day. But the need has gone with slavery,
which teachings. He never taught observance of the Sabbath.
Why is it needful? What is needful is that we observe one day or all days to the Lord.
But we do understand His reasoning although we do not reject GOD's word
So the reality has replaced the shadow,
No, and the letters in the New Testament ignore the Sabbath Day.
GOD first gave the Sabbath to Israel (Exod 16). When Jesus said it was 'made for man' He relegated it. He meant for man to benefit by while it was in use. But He Himself never ONCE taught Sabbath Observance.
If you do you will have to accept His teaching, which relegated it.,
No, man DID need the Sabbath as a rest day. But the need has gone with slavery,
which teachings. He never taught observance of the Sabbath.
Why is it needful? What is needful is that we observe one day or all days to the Lord.
But we do understand His reasoning although we do not reject GOD's word
So the reality has replaced the shadow,