predestination?

[SovereignGrace]

NAILED!!! However she doesn't believe Scripture, she believes what she contorts Scripture into saying or not saying.

The way they see God's calling is like a mother calling out to her children that supper is ready, and those who respond to that call, eat. Those who refuse her calling them, will not eat.

But how we see it is this mother goes out and finds her wandering children and graciously leads them to the table to eat the food she has prepared for them. And what a spread it is!!

Soli Deo Gloria!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

NAILED!!! However she doesn't believe Scripture, she believes what she contorts Scripture into saying or not saying.

And. It continues.

lol.. I hate to say it, but I keep losing respect for people I call my brothers.. Sadly you give us all a bad name. I will not question your salvation, I know your saved (if you truly believed) but as my brothers. I can not condone what I You I are doing/

 

[UnderGrace]

What God grants is an opportunity not an action.

Scripture needs to be consistent.

Scripture is clear that God does not want any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 2Peter 3:9

Acts 11:18, states, “God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.”

Under your way of thinking then every Gentile is given this gift of repentance, which we know is not so.

And yet again, scripture refutes your belief here...

He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.[Acts 5:31]

When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.”[Acts 11:18]

with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,[2 Timothy 2:25]

Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?[Romans 2:4]

 

[preacher4truth]

Theology matters because its the study of God. When EG stated "The HS acts as a human spirit", I rightly called him to the carpet for this utter heresy.

She's right, we're always on the defensive; Philippians 1:7, 16. Only because those if her ilk are incessantly attacking the truth of the Gospel.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The way they see God's calling is like a mother calling out to her children that supper is ready, and those who respond to that call, eat. Those who refuse her calling them, will not eat.

But how we see it is this mother goes out and finds her wandering children and graciously leads them to the table to eat the food she has prepared for them. And what a spread it is!!

Soli Deo Gloria!!

The law was given to do that, It was given to be the schoolmaster.

But as jesus said, not everyone who sees believes, In fact, he told us to CHEW CAREFULLY what we eat, to make sure we UNDERSTAND IT, so we can make the right decision to believe.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

She's right, we're always on the defensive; Philippians 1:7, 16. Only because those if her ilk are incessantly attacking the truth of the Gospel.

Calvanism is not the gospel. It is a theological belief.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What God grants is an opportunity not an action.

Scripture needs to be consistent.

Scripture is clear that God does not want any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 2Peter 3:9

Acts 11:18, states, “God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.”

Under your way of thinking then every Gentile is given this gift of repentance, which we know is not so.

now that they havce me on ignore they are gonna turn on you sis. Let them, it just shows who they are.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

She's right, we're always on the defensive; Philippians 1:7, 16. Only because those if her ilk are incessantly attacking the truth of the Gospel.

I rest my case. Attack.

My kids acted better than this..

 

[UnderGrace]

Well it seems obvious that it impossible to get people to see outside of their lens, there really is no point.

I only challenge for those who may possibly be persuaded who may be reading along, this system of theology is not based on the Love of God nor is it uplifting.

I find the personal attacks very telling.

And. It continues.

lol.. I hate to say it, but I keep losing respect for people I call my brothers.. Sadly you give us all a bad name. I will not question your salvation, I know your saved (if you truly believed) but as my brothers. I can not condone what I You I are doing/

 

[SovereignGrace]

Well it seems obvious that it impossible to get people to see outside of their lens, there really is no point.

Total mischaracterization of us. Most of us were non-Calvinists until we became Calvinists. I was once an avid free will avowing, semi-Pelagianist, just ask Brother preacher4truth. We used to lock horns over free will vs God's sovereignty.

 

[SovereignGrace]

What God grants is an opportunity not an action.

Scripture needs to be consistent.

Scripture is clear that God does not want any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 2Peter 3:9

Acts 11:18, states, “God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.”

Under your way of thinking then every Gentile is given this gift of repentance, which we know is not so.

So now salvation has been relegated to an opportunity, not a covenant promise God gave to His elect. Gotcha!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Well it seems obvious that it impossible to get people to see outside of their lens, there really is no point.

I only challenge for those who may possibly be persuaded who may be reading along, this system of theology is not based on the Love of God nor is it uplifting.

I find the personal attacks very telling.

I will just have to add them to the ignore bin with a few of their brothers.

I can not condone attacking people just because they disagree with you. We are alloud to disagree on things, we do not need to get all bent out of shape and attack because we have no way to appose them.

not worth it anymore.

 

[preacher4truth]

Calvanism is not the gospel. It is a theological belief.

Calvinism is the Gospel. Google that statement.

Secondly I don't have you on ignore, I just look forward to your next lie or for you to be a man and admit, apologize. I expect neither from you.

You've unashamedly lied about me. Which is fine, it's you and an extension of your hyper no works save yourself while dead in sins false gospel.

As answer to your above? Nothing you teach is theological or Gospel. Your belief is philosophical and traditional error, and denies the words of Christ which is why you must keep twisting what you said a few posts back into something new.

 

[preacher4truth]

I rest my case. Attack.

My kids acted better than this..

Hilarious. My post is an attack, but you lied about me. Yet your kids act better than you? That's no feat to brag about, believe me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So now salvation has been relegated to an opportunity, not a covenant promise God gave to His elect. Gotcha!

No one said this, This is your lie,. Because you fail to understand. It is all of God. God has to lead, God has to teach, God did all the work of salvation.

But he will not force anyone to recieved, or not give everyone the ability to recieve it, It would go against his own character, of love.

YTou can not claim to love the world. Then not allow them the ability to chose to say yes or no.

Wake up and try to understand what people are saying and stop attacking them, and maybe you can see this. But sadly, It may be to late for you to see what others are saying,

 

[SovereignGrace]

What God grants is an opportunity not an action.

Scripture needs to be consistent.

Scripture is clear that God does not want any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 2Peter 3:9

Acts 11:18, states, “God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life.”

Under your way of thinking then every Gentile is given this gift of repentance, which we know is not so.

Granted in the Greek is didōmi, and it means...

--to give
--to give something to someone
--to bestow a gift
--to furnish, endue
--to commission


There are other meanings of that word, as well. But God granting repentance, is not Him bestowing an opportunity, but bestowing the gift of repentance to someone.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Hilarious. My post is an attack, but you lied about me. Yet your kids act better than you? That's no feat to brag about, believe me.

Yeah keep it up. I did not lie about you, I proved what I said, You claimed we must be made alive BEFORE we repent,, and you did not deny it, so you proved I did not lie.


You wan to keep acting like a spoiled kid and blame shift, that just shows your maturity level. If this sounds harsh, thats to bad, You want to be treaded like an adult. Learn to act like one.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Granted in the Greek is didōmi, and it means...

--to give
--to give something to someone
--to bestow a gift
--to furnish, endue
--to commission


There are other meanings of that word, as well. But God granting repentance, is not Him bestowing an opportunity, but bestowing the gift of repentance to someone.

For those listening here is an aposing view

granting repentance means God allowed it to happen/

Now. What did God do to allow us the ability to repent. Look no further than the cross. Apart form the cross. Repentance, faith, belief, whatever would not mean a thing.

 

[preacher4truth]

So now salvation has been relegated to an opportunity, not a covenant promise God gave to His elect. Gotcha!

She's just showing how ignorant she is of the immediate context and meaning of Acts 11:18. Those there were amazed that God also granted repentance to Gentiles and not just Jews. I left her to her blindness long ago. She is also one to bear false witness without batting an eye.

 

[UnderGrace]

What I am not understanding then is why it is so personal, you gave me scripture and I responded.

Well, all I can say if a system of theology has everything all worked out then it should stand up to some questioning and challenge.

If you were to question what I believe is the Gospel, it would be very unusual that I would take it personally, unless I was being quite insecure in my understanding.

Well my intent was not to mischaracterize, I was just trying to say to you, that there is no room to even try to see it very a different lens.

Anyway its fine, I was a Calvinist and I am happy to say I am no longer.

I will say one more thing... free will versus God's Soveregnty (as in total control) is just error refuting error, it never works.

Total mischaracterization of us. Most of us were non-Calvinists until we became Calvinists. I was once an avid free will avowing, semi-Pelagianist, just ask Brother preacher4truth. We used to lock horns over free will vs God's sovereignty.