Joyce Meyer

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Hi Shekaniah and everybody else.

PLEASE PLEASE listen to the audio before making any more comments. Why defend someone who preaches blasphemies against Jesus. She clearly stated (with her own lips) that she believes (as does the whole of Word of Faith) that Jesus ceased to be the Son of God, that He became a sinner and therefore needed to be born-again at the resurrection. She stated many other lies about our faith. Again, don't comment until you have listened to the whole audio,

Click here to listen to that audio
The bible calls it "another gospel"
I could name many false teachings of hers. That
are opposite of what the bible teaches.
 
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I agree the Word of Faith doctrine has problems. Jesus said "It is finished" from the Cross before He died and the Bible says He preached when He went to Hell. It's even possible that He was in Abraham's Bosom when He preached to those in captivity.
The Bible also teaches that we should say "If the Lord will" before we do anything. Some people say "Lord willing". We cannot claim phynancial prosperity without saying "if the Lord will". James 4:13 Go to now, ye that say, Today or tommorrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Where as ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor, that appeareth for a little time, and the vanisheth away. 15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

the preached in hell is a total misunderstanding of the context. He was dead in the grave.
 
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Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

You might need to reconsider if Jesus went to Hell or not.
define hell and theres yur answer
 
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Hey what about Joan of Arc? She was sent to fulfill a mission from God directly! But she was prosecuted accused by the CURCH for hiercy and even accused as a whore, when she was a vrgin, up untl the CHURCH raped her! The same church that later on declared her as a sant. Well my point is, she technically wasn't a women yet, but fulfilled a destiny from God.
 
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Hey what about Joan of Arc? She was sent to fulfill a mission from God directly! But she was prosecuted accused by the CURCH for hiercy and even accused as a whore, when she was a vrgin, up untl the CHURCH raped her! The same church that later on declared her as a sant. Well my point is, she technically wasn't a women yet, but fulfilled a destiny from God.
But did she teach a different gospel? did she teach occultic methods for self deluding yourself?
I dont think so. Nor do i think this thread is particularly focusing on Joyces gender.
 
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Totally. What kind of edifyng is being done on christian chat? People here believe n one thing for certain...Jesus died for there sins. So why be in here arguing and bible studying w people that know about God instead of going out into the world in preaching to sinners whom the Lord God is more concerned about then those that follow Him? Self ambition maybe? Some of you that need to feed your pride on what "you" think is right by putting others down? Sounds like the opposite of what Gods plan is..love, peace, and prosperity!
 
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But did she teach a different gospel? did she teach occultic methods for self deluding yourself?
I dont think so. Nor do i think this thread is particularly focusing on Joyces gender.
Joan of Arc I believe was not gonna lead an army of men to free her beloved country for her own good or indulgence especially if she knew her lfe was at stake for it. I feel she was a faithful warror and messenger of God and fulfilled His will correctly without ever a doubt. No one could ever convince me different. She did follow the catholc faith though and they are the ones that betrayed her and denied her mission therefore denyng the Lord God and brutally slaying a faithful servant of The Almighty Father God:( When I read a book about her and seen a movie of about her I cried like a baby, because her last word that came out of her mouth was JESUS!!!!! So I know she was His real ordeal! Just like the Jews betrayed Jesus. The Catholic church betrayed Joan:( I'm almost at tears now expressng this to you. She was a great servant and now serves even a greater purpose w the Lord. And I believe she wll be among the 10,000 saints that will desend from heaven w the Lord God to battle the wicked on earth!!
 
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Joan of Arc I believe was not gonna lead an army of men to free her beloved country for her own good or indulgence especially if she knew her lfe was at stake for it. I feel she was a faithful warror and messenger of God and fulfilled His will correctly without ever a doubt. No one could ever convince me different. She did follow the catholc faith though and they are the ones that betrayed her and denied her mission therefore denyng the Lord God and brutally slaying a faithful servant of The Almighty Father God:( When I read a book about her and seen a movie of about her I cried like a baby, because her last word that came out of her mouth was JESUS!!!!! So I know she was His real ordeal! Just like the Jews betrayed Jesus. The Catholic church betrayed Joan:( I'm almost at tears now expressng this to you. She was a great servant and now serves even a greater purpose w the Lord. And I believe she wll be among the 10,000 saints that will desend from heaven w the Lord God to battle the wicked on earth!!

sniffle....Unicorn Love.....ive been in more of my fair share of these kind of threads....and it seems there
is always a need when its finished to fight on the womans behalf when its over. But it would take months
to say a small part of her value, and the need we have of her. And it may be very possible that woman have done more for the cause of Christ and more good to society in the world than men ever have or ever will.
But positionally we have our differences. Greatness is measured differently in the kingdom. And value hasnt
much to do with position. I sure wish all woman could see this. The way God sees it.
 
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sh'e also part of the Word Faith crowd who teaches the atonement was won in HELL as Jesus was tortured by satan.....think about that: our salvation was secured by satan!

lately i have it from a good source she says she never believed anything she taught, it never helped her.

and that she never sinned.
Lets not forget she teaches the 'little gods' concept as well. That men are duplicates of God, with divine natures.
 
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Lets not forget she teaches the 'little gods' concept as well. That men are duplicates of God, with divine natures.
the one that made me the maddest was sprinkling the blood of Jesus on her car, and on her pocketbook,
all over the place like a weird occultist. I mean where is her heart. Jesus blood on her pocketbook...makes
blood squirt out my ears.

Theres about ten more that just make the word of God of none effect.
 

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She does help the people who need help. (water,food and love)
Agree.

And can I ask you how many hearts have you won for Christ?
i share the gospel to whomever want's to hear but in CC we discuss after all this is a Christian chat site right? (asuming 99% on here are already saved because they believe in Christ but it doesn't mean we must stop now, we must learn and grow in the word so that no one should fall into any sort of deception), but by doing so we must always line up with scripture as truth.

If God did not want her doing what she does, don't you think that she would have been taken off the air long time ago?
No because Jesus is not the God of this world, there is a scripture that says if people don't have a love for truth (scriptural truth) God purposely sends delusions on them and by letting them be ignorant.

I don't believe there are many leaders on TV, that don't make me question something that is taught.
Have you noticed on TBN that they use Christianity as a gateway to prosperity? Hmm...What did Jesus say "It is easier for a rich man to enter through the eye of an needle as it is to enter Heaven. Jesus said pick up your cross and follow me (new gospel) otherwise you are not worthy of been my disciple... 90% of all the preachers on TBN DEMANDS money, prosperity, health from God and saying to the congregation 'If you give to this ministry you will receive your blessing' say what???? i am shocked to the core, they preach a "sugar coated gospel with NO sufferings"

If we look at the big picture, Joyce Meyers has done a lot of good for the Love of Jesus.
No she has done more damage not only to her but to the congregation of her church as well by preaching 90% biblical and 10% unbiblicall lies.

Romans 16:18
For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites.
By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.

Shhekaniah, i know that you love Christ but we have to grow and warn fellow Christians of any sort of falseness so that we learn and grow in knowledge. :)
 
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TBN is a freemason plant. An assault on the Kingdom.
 
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When you are poor, prosperity sounds a little different than if you have everything you need. Some people need things from God so they can make it. So they believe in prosperity teaching. This doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the rich people who preach prosperity. They are not depending on God for something; they are looking for more money. I believe there is a big difference. I do not listen to Joyce Meyers, because the Bible says women should not teach or usurp authority over a man. My advice to men is just don't watch or buy her books. Let her talk to women. That's what I do.
 

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She's doing good work for the Kingdom, so stop hatin
 
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When you are poor, prosperity sounds a little different than if you have everything you need. Some people need things from God so they can make it. So they believe in prosperity teaching. This doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the rich people who preach prosperity. They are not depending on God for something; they are looking for more money. I believe there is a big difference. I do not listen to Joyce Meyers, because the Bible says women should not teach or usurp authority over a man. My advice to men is just don't watch or buy her books. Let her talk to women. That's what I do.
Well why should we and how could you? Shes not teaching truth, and is not healthy for anyone to watch
if you want psychology see a shrink, if you want money than see a finiancial councellor or buy a book
there are plenty. And if you want eternal life then find someone who preaches the real gospel.
Dont just kick the woman to a wolf and say shes a woman..wow
 
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She's doing good work for the Kingdom, so stop hatin

forget it...speak your mind..well wait...you do usually with giant yelling red letters.
So dont dare tell others to be quiet. Or to stop hating evil. Or false doctrine.
 
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Well why should we and how could you? Shes not teaching truth, and is not healthy for anyone to watch
if you want psychology see a shrink, if you want money than see a finiancial councellor or buy a book
there are plenty. And if you want eternal life then find someone who preaches the real gospel.
Dont just kick the woman to a wolf and say shes a woman..wow
It's my experience that you can not force people not to watch Joyce Meyers. I wish I could. My grandmother watches Joyce. Most of what Joyce says is harmless. I would be more worried about people on this site talking to my grandmother. Lucky for me, my wife doesn't watch Joyce Meyers or I really might have something to say. Honestly, I don't want women to watch Joyce Meyers. I said let the women watch her instead of the men in light of the OP's original post and I believe it works for TV, books, and women speaking at church. I have walked out of churches when they let women speak, more than once. Boycott women speakers!
 
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Dude can you even imagine how dishonoring it is to the Lord to say
Jesus had to go to hell and be beat by the devil to pay our debt?

Have you even thought of how that makes us who follow the Lord yack?
God never has nor ever will be in debt to anyone or anything He has created.

Joyce teaches doctrines of demons and i dont care if you like it or not.
Im usually nicer about things like this but youve been all up about it.
Ill fill 10 pages of her heresy if youd like.
 
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It's my experience that you can not force people not to watch Joyce Meyers. I wish I could. My grandmother watches Joyce. Most of what Joyce says is harmless. I would be more worried about people on this site talking to my grandmother. Lucky for me, my wife doesn't watch Joyce Meyers or I really might have something to say. Honestly, I don't want women to watch Joyce Meyers. I said let the women watch her instead of the men in light of the OP's original post and I believe it works for TV, books, and women speaking at church. I have walked out of churches when they let women speak, more than once. Boycott women speakers!
Jonathan do your homework before you give anyone recommendations.
If you dont know than keep it closed. this is not about Joyces gender