How can Satan be bound for a thousand yrs.?
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Once again the scripture DOES NOT say Christ reigning on earth a thousand years, it says WE reign with CHRIST a thousand years.
There is a big difference..
To illustrate, consider the phrase, "John Doe reigned with the king for one year." Does this mean the king reigned for only one year? No, it does not. The king could reign for many years, but the point is not how long the king reigned but how long John reigned with the king. The king isn't the subject, it is speaking about how long John reigns with him. Likewise, Revelation 20:4 (KJV) is not about how long Jesus will reign, but how long others will reign with Jesus. There's a big difference..
You did not read the thread http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/34301-first-resurrection-part-2-a.html did you?
There is a big difference..
To illustrate, consider the phrase, "John Doe reigned with the king for one year." Does this mean the king reigned for only one year? No, it does not. The king could reign for many years, but the point is not how long the king reigned but how long John reigned with the king. The king isn't the subject, it is speaking about how long John reigns with him. Likewise, Revelation 20:4 (KJV) is not about how long Jesus will reign, but how long others will reign with Jesus. There's a big difference..
You did not read the thread http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/34301-first-resurrection-part-2-a.html did you?
That poses a problem for people who think that the saints ruled with Jesus or are ruling with Jesus spiritually and there is no physical reign of Christ.
If Satan is bound for 1000 years while the saints rule spiritually with Jesus,why have people always been at war,fighting with each other group and individual wise,and are sinning,since the start of Christianity,and the Bible never tells of a break from Satan going to and fro through the earth looking for people to devour,from the time of Christianity until now.
The world never had a break from Satan and his temptations from the fall of Adam until now,as you can see demonstrated by the behavior of people,that they never took a break from doing wrong and fighting,so how was Satan bound for 1000 years in the past or now.
Not only that but why are the saints only ruling for 1000 years with Jesus spiritually when since His resurrection it has been over 2000 years.You mean the saints can only rule for 1000 years out of that 2000 years period when Jesus is still in charge and His kingdom in operation the whole time.
You mean that Jesus established the kingdom since His resurrection which has been in effect for 2000 years and He is the Master but Jesus can only rule it for 1000 years spiritually,and why only 1000 years out of the 2000 years.What is the significance of that.What about the other 1000 years why is He not ruling then,for what changed and what is the purpose of only 1000 years when Jesus is the Master and His kingdom always rules.Nothing has changed denoting Jesus ruling for 1000 years and Him not ruling for the other 1000 years,but all is the same.
Plus the Bible details things about that 1000 years reign that has not happened in the past and is not happening now.
Jesus will rule with a rod of iron,but how is Jesus ruling with a rod of iron seeing the world is worse in behavior and sin than in the past.
The people of the Gentile nations will go up year to year to Jerusalem to worship Jesus,but we never seen that in the history of mankind,and is talking about on earth.
The animals and people will get along with no fear of each other,but we never seen that.
The world will only acknowledge Jesus and no other God,but that never happened.
That Jesus is ruling for 1000 years spiritually and not a physical reign makes no sense,but only makes sense if it is a physical reign on earth,with Jesus being on earth ruling with His saints,which could only happen in the future.
How was Satan bound for 1000 years during this so called 1000 years spiritual reign,when people are worse now.
If Jesus ruled for 1000 years spiritually then how are the people of the world worse,and nothing changed in the world.For Jesus to rule would mean He would have complete control of the world and everybody would only observe Him and His kingdom,which we seen never happened in the past or now.
To rule means that only your ways are observed on earth which we see never happened,for people have been rebellious against Jesus and His kingdom from the time He was on earth until now.
Satan will be bound for 1000 years and Jesus will rule the earth physically in the future,after God fights the world and puts them down.
If Satan is bound for 1000 years while the saints rule spiritually with Jesus,why have people always been at war,fighting with each other group and individual wise,and are sinning,since the start of Christianity,and the Bible never tells of a break from Satan going to and fro through the earth looking for people to devour,from the time of Christianity until now.
The world never had a break from Satan and his temptations from the fall of Adam until now,as you can see demonstrated by the behavior of people,that they never took a break from doing wrong and fighting,so how was Satan bound for 1000 years in the past or now.
Not only that but why are the saints only ruling for 1000 years with Jesus spiritually when since His resurrection it has been over 2000 years.You mean the saints can only rule for 1000 years out of that 2000 years period when Jesus is still in charge and His kingdom in operation the whole time.
You mean that Jesus established the kingdom since His resurrection which has been in effect for 2000 years and He is the Master but Jesus can only rule it for 1000 years spiritually,and why only 1000 years out of the 2000 years.What is the significance of that.What about the other 1000 years why is He not ruling then,for what changed and what is the purpose of only 1000 years when Jesus is the Master and His kingdom always rules.Nothing has changed denoting Jesus ruling for 1000 years and Him not ruling for the other 1000 years,but all is the same.
Plus the Bible details things about that 1000 years reign that has not happened in the past and is not happening now.
Jesus will rule with a rod of iron,but how is Jesus ruling with a rod of iron seeing the world is worse in behavior and sin than in the past.
The people of the Gentile nations will go up year to year to Jerusalem to worship Jesus,but we never seen that in the history of mankind,and is talking about on earth.
The animals and people will get along with no fear of each other,but we never seen that.
The world will only acknowledge Jesus and no other God,but that never happened.
That Jesus is ruling for 1000 years spiritually and not a physical reign makes no sense,but only makes sense if it is a physical reign on earth,with Jesus being on earth ruling with His saints,which could only happen in the future.
How was Satan bound for 1000 years during this so called 1000 years spiritual reign,when people are worse now.
If Jesus ruled for 1000 years spiritually then how are the people of the world worse,and nothing changed in the world.For Jesus to rule would mean He would have complete control of the world and everybody would only observe Him and His kingdom,which we seen never happened in the past or now.
To rule means that only your ways are observed on earth which we see never happened,for people have been rebellious against Jesus and His kingdom from the time He was on earth until now.
Satan will be bound for 1000 years and Jesus will rule the earth physically in the future,after God fights the world and puts them down.
here i meant separating the sheep from the goats, wheat from the tares, just from the unjust.
All this will happen on His second coming, His second no third only 2nd.
Note that Revelation 20 mentions nothing of Christ coming. ONLY that WE will reign with CHRIST because we have been resurrected IN CHRIST Ephesians 2:6 (KJV)
in Revelation 21 is when the Lord comes with the new Jerusalem and a new heaven, new earth.
All this will happen on His second coming, His second no third only 2nd.
Note that Revelation 20 mentions nothing of Christ coming. ONLY that WE will reign with CHRIST because we have been resurrected IN CHRIST Ephesians 2:6 (KJV)
in Revelation 21 is when the Lord comes with the new Jerusalem and a new heaven, new earth.
You will understand it when you realize the thousand years is used figuratively. From the first advent to the second.
There are still wars and famine but no one can say the devil made me dot it because CHRIST has PROMISED us victory over him (Satan) and has destroyed his works and has cast him (Satan) out. John 12:31 (KJV) ... John 16:11 (KJV)
.....until he (Satan) is loosed for a little season (tribulation period) after this Christ will appear in the clouds at His glorious 2nd coming and His reward is with Him.
One has to read this spiritually to understand it, then all will start making sense according to the parable Jesus spoke of the wheat and the tares.
However at the 2nd coming of Christ will everyone see it with their eyes.
Directly after Jesus second coming He judges the goats (unjust) and throw them in the lake of fire along with the antichrist and beast.
There are still wars and famine but no one can say the devil made me dot it because CHRIST has PROMISED us victory over him (Satan) and has destroyed his works and has cast him (Satan) out. John 12:31 (KJV) ... John 16:11 (KJV)
.....until he (Satan) is loosed for a little season (tribulation period) after this Christ will appear in the clouds at His glorious 2nd coming and His reward is with Him.
One has to read this spiritually to understand it, then all will start making sense according to the parable Jesus spoke of the wheat and the tares.
However at the 2nd coming of Christ will everyone see it with their eyes.
Directly after Jesus second coming He judges the goats (unjust) and throw them in the lake of fire along with the antichrist and beast.
So cronjecj; seeing as how your so sure of yourself, would you care to explain what it is that is taking place in Rev: 16/21 ? please and thank-you.
Forever in Christ
Forever in Christ
Revelation 16:18-21 (KJV) is the 2nd glorious coming of the Lord.
Revelation 21:1-27 (KJV) is after the 2nd glorious coming of the Lord.
C
I used to think that Satan was limited by what he can and can't do. If Satan were as powerful as some claim then why aren't witches flying around on broomsticks and werewolves sifting through our trash cans in the dead of night?
However, I have since realized that one of Satan's greatest deceptions is the fact that Satan loves to hide his power, preferring to whisper crazy ideas in our ear. I believe that this is why we have so many divisions in the church. I also believe this why divorce and abortion is just as prevalent in the church as it is in the world.
So what is happening in Rev: 20/9? and who is doing it? if you don't mind
Forever in Christ
Forever in Christ
Satan is doing it (through the antichrist and the beast) along with the nations that he (Satan) deceived. They will attack the saints the ones that refused to take the mark of the beast.
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I can see this in verse 8, but i was inquiring about verse 9?
So were now up to the 2nd, 2nd coming? as you told me that the 2nd coming was in Chapter 16/19-21
I find this confusing, even when i read it in context with the ajoining verses; could you explain a little more indepth, if you don't mind? Just its my soul at stake here, and i do care a little bit about that. Thank-You
Forever in Christ
So were now up to the 2nd, 2nd coming? as you told me that the 2nd coming was in Chapter 16/19-21
I find this confusing, even when i read it in context with the ajoining verses; could you explain a little more indepth, if you don't mind? Just its my soul at stake here, and i do care a little bit about that. Thank-You
Forever in Christ
Originally Posted by shroom2
1) rapture of the Christian church
2) the 7 years of trib.
3) Christ returns to earth (the "second advent") to fight armageddon.
4) The millennial kingdom will be set up, also the resurrection of the just will take place. Satan will be bound.
5) the 1000 year millennial kingdom, this current earth...
6) Satan will be loosed, and will be destroyed by God.
7) the resurrection of the unjust, and the "great white throne judgment".
8) this heaven and earth destroyed, the new one is created.
9) new Jerusalem descends
10) we will live forever with God and Christ.
1) rapture of the Christian church
2) the 7 years of trib.
3) Christ returns to earth (the "second advent") to fight armageddon.
4) The millennial kingdom will be set up, also the resurrection of the just will take place. Satan will be bound.
5) the 1000 year millennial kingdom, this current earth...
6) Satan will be loosed, and will be destroyed by God.
7) the resurrection of the unjust, and the "great white throne judgment".
8) this heaven and earth destroyed, the new one is created.
9) new Jerusalem descends
10) we will live forever with God and Christ.
The trib may indeed be near, but nobody can say for sure. I believe the rapture will precede it ( I know that's not a popular position among many here...)
No. Satan will be loosed at the end of the millennial kingdom, roughly 1000 years after the trib. He isn't even bound yet. He can't be loosed if he isn't first bound.
Not even close.
Yes, he will be. 1000 years, to be more precise.
That is correct. Again, roughly 1000 years after he returns to fight armageddon and set up the millennial kingdom.
I can see this in verse 8, but i was inquiring about verse 9?
So were now up to the 2nd, 2nd coming? as you told me that the 2nd coming was in Chapter 16/19-21
I find this confusing, even when i read it in context with the ajoining verses; could you explain a little more indepth, if you don't mind? Just its my soul at stake here, and i do care a little bit about that. Thank-You
Forever in Christ
So were now up to the 2nd, 2nd coming? as you told me that the 2nd coming was in Chapter 16/19-21
I find this confusing, even when i read it in context with the ajoining verses; could you explain a little more indepth, if you don't mind? Just its my soul at stake here, and i do care a little bit about that. Thank-You
Forever in Christ
Revelation 16:1-17 (KJV) ... Revelation 20:7-9 (KJV) is the tribulation.
Revelation 16:18-21 (KJV) is the 2nd glorious coming of the Lord.
Revelation 21:1-27 (KJV) is after the 2nd glorious coming of the Lord.