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I suffer not a woman to teach or have authority over a man but to be silent -- 1 Timothy 2:12
What does this mean?
I think it means: woman are not to teach over (the choice) of a man who is equally qualified.
I think it means: women are not to have authority (of a church congregation) over a man.
Women are to be silent, let the leader who is USUALLY a man OVER a woman, speak.
Keep in mind that Paul goes on in verse 13 to say that Adam (man) was formed first, then Eve (woman). This speaks of order. It does NOT tell me that a woman can NEVER be over a whole congregation of women AND MEN. Nope, does not tell me that. Why would it? It doesn't.
What is the ending of this all? First, verse 14 says that Eve transgressed. Now, this does NOT say that Adam did not transgress, oh, NO! Adam did transgress, but Adam's transgression was SIN !!!!
Green, what was Eve's transgression? Eve was guilty of DECEPTION !!! Imagine that
Now, who do you want in charge of your church congregation, a sinner or a deceiver Either/or is the right answer, eh, Christ peeps.
I'm sooo glad you are understanding this verse better now, the Lord leads, doesn't He
Again, Paul is very gentle with his words of women, he then tells them they will be saved in 'child-bearing.' This is to let them know, that though he believes that Christ is head of church, then, man over woman, as Gal. 3:28 speaks, the woman is going to be saved by her womanly way of child-bearing.
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The argument of this being Paul's opinion that women are not to be chosen over a man for a preaching position I have a MUCH harder time agreeing, for Paul's words were inspired to the page of his epistles by God Himself. And, although I am not a legalist (no, you won't go to hell, guys, if you have long hair, or, the lake of fire, or ?? Will you ? ) so won't go there but, yes, it is truth that God's words in ALL of Scripture, by ALL His chosen authors, are just that, God's words.
What does this mean?
I think it means: woman are not to teach over (the choice) of a man who is equally qualified.
I think it means: women are not to have authority (of a church congregation) over a man.
Women are to be silent, let the leader who is USUALLY a man OVER a woman, speak.
Keep in mind that Paul goes on in verse 13 to say that Adam (man) was formed first, then Eve (woman). This speaks of order. It does NOT tell me that a woman can NEVER be over a whole congregation of women AND MEN. Nope, does not tell me that. Why would it? It doesn't.
What is the ending of this all? First, verse 14 says that Eve transgressed. Now, this does NOT say that Adam did not transgress, oh, NO! Adam did transgress, but Adam's transgression was SIN !!!!
Green, what was Eve's transgression? Eve was guilty of DECEPTION !!! Imagine that
Now, who do you want in charge of your church congregation, a sinner or a deceiver Either/or is the right answer, eh, Christ peeps.
I'm sooo glad you are understanding this verse better now, the Lord leads, doesn't He
Again, Paul is very gentle with his words of women, he then tells them they will be saved in 'child-bearing.' This is to let them know, that though he believes that Christ is head of church, then, man over woman, as Gal. 3:28 speaks, the woman is going to be saved by her womanly way of child-bearing.
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The argument of this being Paul's opinion that women are not to be chosen over a man for a preaching position I have a MUCH harder time agreeing, for Paul's words were inspired to the page of his epistles by God Himself. And, although I am not a legalist (no, you won't go to hell, guys, if you have long hair, or, the lake of fire, or ?? Will you ? ) so won't go there but, yes, it is truth that God's words in ALL of Scripture, by ALL His chosen authors, are just that, God's words.