Cobus exactly this is what God has done for all that believe in him, and what God needs is for us that still have a conscience of sin need to see that God has already taken all sin away for them and gave this to them the day they first believed even if continued to sin for he lives in them teaching them right from wrong, I know because Father never left me and never forsook me as I was caught in my old sinful nature, not realizing at the time God already gave me the new nature, Father stayed with me loving me while I was still sinning, and I am not saying that I will never sin again I do not know the future, I can't turn one hair of my head black or white therefore I will stay in the present trusting God, caring for me, living in me because he put his new nature in me The first day of belief and then Father through the Holy Ghost worked it out in me until I saw and see what you have said, Father did this in me by FAith in him trusting him and now daily I walk in trust, knowing he loves me having my conscience purged from sin, not even knowing what sin is or was, For today I am too busy trusting. But understand this that on the first day of belief God comes to live in the that one that believes that desires to know him and allows free choice for all things are permissable in him but not all things are beneficial. This is where we grow in grace and through experience we learn what is beneficial and what is not, by free choice and not being under law we make the right choices growing in the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ 1 John 3:3
1 John 3:3
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Do you see this, from the first day of belief God made us pure a new nature was out in us that day andwe are to learn tom walk by this new nature that God implanted in us via because of his Son who took all sin away died form us and in our place so that Father could live in us in the twinkling of an eye, made perfect in and of Christ Jesus, the Father sees each of us that believe through his Son as pefect from the first day of belief period, the sooner we see this the sooner we will forsake sin because our focus will no longer be on sin, it will be on God, too busy to think about sin, and if we do we think how rediculous it was when it had (past tense) its control of us through the flesh
Love you Cobus
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Well homeward, I used to like what i read what you had to say, bit now you are COMPLETELY wrong. Every man that has this HOPE in him.... Hope is not the Holy Spirit and not the FAITH that does not waver or fail....
If what you say here is true then there is too many scripture that are contradicting to this doctrine. NOWHERE in the bible is there a verse that says God looks at us THROUGH Jesus... that is teachings of SATAN! It is like we are LOCKED in sin and God cannot do anything about it. It is like saying God is too weak to save us from sin.
You are wrong my friend.... Abiut the sin forgiving thing.... God only forgive a sin ONCE.... AFTER you died it off. God is not like us to learn how to forgive.... HE KNOWS HOW! And God knows when you will NEVER commit a particular sin again... Because HE is the ONE that gives you victory, and ruling over that sin....
Homy, you are way off scripture with your doctrine. If your focus is not on sin, IT IS STILL YOUR FOCUS,,,, when you are MOVED by the Holy Spirit, your focus does not exist any-more... And I love you too Homy, but you have not considered my teaching YET....
Sin is NO part of the NEW ME! NONE.... God does not have to forsake or not forsake me.... I AM IN HIM! And He CANNOT forsake HIMSELF... Get this.... SIN IS REMOVED, as far as the east is of the west.... For all NEW CREATURES in Christ.... IN Christ, not on the OTHER SIDE OF CHRIST.... IN CHRIST, IN GOD!!!!!