Black lives do matter

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Willie-T

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Demi777 said:
Well Black lives matter first started on the basis of ''black lives matter just as much as any other'' and then dumb fanatics (black panthers etc) took over it and causes more trouble and division than anything. IT IS EVIL
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I imagine both parties of politics began the same way....... but we now have to deal, in all cases, with what now exists.
 
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Yes, that was one of the reasons I posted this. We talk about race all the time on here. But, in truth, we never really "discuss" it.

This was a real e-mail. One of many we receive from people who know we are not liberal.(Democrat) Especially from this gal. And, although it seems to, it should come as no surprise to Blacks that Whites have this sort of interaction rather frequently. The same as many Blacks do when Whites aren't around.

Yes, I was raised by a very good Black woman. But I see very few like Hattie anymore. I know they must still be around somewhere, but they seem to want people such as Al and Jessie and the BLM and other haters to represent them in the eyes of Whites. And this e-mail, and general opinions just like it, are the result of that representation.

My wife worked for the last 8 years of her career, as a supervisor of what was, basically, the Black segment of her company's clientele. But, other than the grandmothers who were raising the majority of the children, she has told me that, for the most part, these stereotypes are based on a very real and visible foundation. She said that most of the tutors she had in that area were White, because many of her Black tutors asked to be assigned to White neighborhoods. They were eager to tutor Black kids, but just didn't want to do so in Black neighborhoods... the very areas in which they, themselves, lived.

This kind of thinking HAS to say something to the rest of us, whether Black or White.

We see, all the time, Black people on TV complaining about the crime and drugs in their very own neighborhoods. Complaining the cops don't do anything. Yet, they not only refuse to assist the police in cleaning up their areas, but if an officer tries to arrest a punk who has just robbed one of them in their own store, what happens? That lone cop is on his own.

To bring the rubber to the road and be bitterly frank and honest, Whites have very little of that. Now, won't all people here agree with that statement... whether you are Black or White?

Why? Because we do not let some jackass community activists dictate our lives. And we sure don't let the gangs and druggies have free reign of our neighborhoods. In my own neighborhood, we have run out several people who attempted to set up shop like that here. If something looks suspicious in this neighborhood, within a matter of minutes, a patrol car is in the area. Why? Because several of us have called........ AND, we are standing in the street, waiting for the car, and clearly explaining what we saw. The officer even have to keep us from going down to that house with them.

It honestly does seem all too clear to mot Whites that almost no Blacks will never do that. Please tell me how White people are supposed to think of Blacks, in general, if this is the kind of thing we see reported over and over again on TV when even Black officers are interviewed?

I don't agree with crap like this teacher friend of ours sends out all the time........... but what is the Black community doing to help her, and others like her, to believe any other way? She really does see Blacks as "the problem" because you honestly seem to be fine with the massive representation you have. The representation Blacks are applauding.

Go online, and watch some of the videos of Sherriff David Clark being interviewed by black reporters. Go ahead and do it! I hope you are as shocked as I was. The man is all but shamed and ridiculed by his own people for his ideas that decent Black citizens need to take some serious responsibility for letting thugs run their neighborhoods, while, in effect, saying nothing.

So, even though some of us know many good Black people, I have to admit that I cannot honestly say to my White friends that they are wrong in what they think they see. Because that seems to be what most Blacks are perfectly content to have the world see of their community.

Do Blacks expect Whites to be the ones to get upset and do something about that? It wasn't Blacks who all but crushed the KKK. It was Whites. And we still do it whenever those filthy people rear what's left of their ugly heads. Are Blacks ever going to do the same with their own hate organizations? Or are they going to let them further poison White minds that are already well on their way to believing everything sold to them?

Did I upset some people here by passing on that racist e-mail? Well good. Because we all need to wake up and recognize that there is a strong undercurrent of that sort of thing going on everyday in both societies. And it won't stop until 95% of what people are constantly told about the other race, changes. And that takes work. Hard work, and risk.

Can a group meeting with officials, insisting on retaining the name, BLM, that has quickly become the banner of hatred against police ever do anything good? Not likely. It will just be some lip-service exchanged by a few well-intended people in a hidden room at a meeting hall if individual citizens don't choose to own their own streets by actually acting.

OK, go ahead and tell me where I am wrong, and all that I don't understand.
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Bill Cosby has said the same thing.

Charles Barkley has said the same thing.

University professors and judges who are black have said the same thing.

He's saying it:
[video=youtube;ZxcAN0t6GrI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxcAN0t6GrI[/video]

Don't you remember them? No? Maybe because it's ignored by the news.

What I see is most blacks are just like us, but we don't make the news either. It's not part of the programming that needs to be distributed. And when we can't take loud neighbors what do we do? Stay away.

I live in Philly. Less than half of Philly is white. (I'm not saying the majority is black. The majority is not white.) There's only one section in town that deserves what they have -- The Badlands. It's a ghetto where blacks won't let whites in without attacking them, and that means burning down businesses, robbing stores dry, and stoning my car repeatedly because they assumed I was an owner of the factory. They were mad that the factory was owned by whites, and yet even though it was the only business in the neighborhood, the business couldn't find enough employees that would actually work a full week. 32 men to do the work of 20, because most just came when they felt like it. (I kept the books. Only one of the workers who was hispanic was there for all 37.5 hours most weeks. The average, for a "fulltime job" was 22 hours.) That neighborhood got what it deserves -- nothing.

But most everywhere else, blacks worked right along side with whites, got the same pay, did what they could to put their kids in private school because our public schools can't even graduate but half the student body and half of them are illiterate, and have to keep moving from neighborhood to neighborhood for the same reasons whites flee a neighborhood -- who follows them into the neighborhood.

Honestly? There's a term we cannot use that differentiates the difference between the small groups of black who do demand anarchy and most. Just like there is another term we can use on here for those who claim to be Christians but aren't. We've been trained to be that PC too.
 
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Sounds like your friend was a pre-BLM'er before it became Black Lives Matter lol....one thing is for sure those blm dudes know how to make a scene when people are looking/cameras are rolling....they get loud and crazy when they get attention from the media....
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BLM isn't new. I didn't know it at the time but a new group moved into our town. I still am not sure where they came from, but I can tell you they changed my friend. And two years later? Well, history calls it "the race riots in the 60's." I still don't know where they came from but a new group raised the anger of the blacks enough to start riots in our schoolyard at the same time the blacks I grew up with still had dads who worked for the same chemical companies, the same oil refineries, and the same banks our fathers worked for.

We moved the summer after the race riots. I returned eight years later. The town has been destitute ever since.
 
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Bill Cosby has said the same thing.

Charles Barkley has said the same thing.

University professors and judges who are black have said the same thing.

He's saying it:
[video=youtube;ZxcAN0t6GrI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxcAN0t6GrI[/video]

Don't you remember them? No? Maybe because it's ignored by the news.

What I see is most blacks are just like us, but we don't make the news either. It's not part of the programming that needs to be distributed. And when we can't take loud neighbors what do we do? Stay away.

I live in Philly. Less than half of Philly is white. (I'm not saying the majority is black. The majority is not white.) There's only one section in town that deserves what they have -- The Badlands. It's a ghetto where blacks won't let whites in without attacking them, and that means burning down businesses, robbing stores dry, and stoning my car repeatedly because they assumed I was an owner of the factory. They were mad that the factory was owned by whites, and yet even though it was the only business in the neighborhood, the business couldn't find enough employees that would actually work a full week. 32 men to do the work of 20, because most just came when they felt like it. (I kept the books. Only one of the workers who was hispanic was there for all 37.5 hours most weeks. The average, for a "fulltime job" was 22 hours.) That neighborhood got what it deserves -- nothing.

But most everywhere else, blacks worked right along side with whites, got the same pay, did what they could to put their kids in private school because our public schools can't even graduate but half the student body and half of them are illiterate, and have to keep moving from neighborhood to neighborhood for the same reasons whites flee a neighborhood -- who follows them into the neighborhood.

Honestly? There's a term we cannot use that differentiates the difference between the small groups of black who do demand anarchy and most. Just like there is another term we can use on here for those who claim to be Christians but aren't. We've been trained to be that PC too.
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And yet we don't want to elect an odd, red-faced little big-mouth who honestly does seem to want to change much of that. I dunno, but if my foot hurts from hitting it with a hammer, I'm going to quit hitting it with a hammer.
 
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You make him sound like an Ompa Loompa Willie. Lol
 
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BLM isn't new. I didn't know it at the time but a new group moved into our town. I still am not sure where they came from, but I can tell you they changed my friend. And two years later? Well, history calls it "the race riots in the 60's." I still don't know where they came from but a new group raised the anger of the blacks enough to start riots in our schoolyard at the same time the blacks I grew up with still had dads who worked for the same chemical companies, the same oil refineries, and the same banks our fathers worked for.

We moved the summer after the race riots. I returned eight years later. The town has been destitute ever since.
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It IS a strange phenomenon. Inmates have long been known to destroy the very little they had to end up sleeping on the concrete floor.
 
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It IS a strange phenomenon. Inmates have long been known to destroy the very little they had to end up sleeping on the concrete floor.
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Which proves that most inmates, regardless of color, are right where they belong.
 
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Fenner said:
You make him sound like an Ompa Loompa Willie. Lol
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Well, let's face it, except for this last week, which probably won't last, he DOES come off sounding like a Willie Wonka Chocolate Factory worker.

In truth, we Whites have responded to his ranting and hollering just the way so many Blacks respond to Al and Jessie's ranting and hollering.
 
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Talking like Yoda you are...
Anyway he just listed a bunch of stats without any context behind them so you can see how one would take this as a racist troll post
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Yes. You can do that by coming up with the first thing that crosses your mind and running with it. Otherwise known as "not thinking." FOUR PAGES so far and you haven't gone past the first post except where you chimed in with minor little ditties along the way. Ditties where thinking wasn't, and still isn't, required. Matter of fact, you're even writing things that require no thinking to add to the lack of thinking. This is what you do every time. (Unless it's about you, of course.) You don't think past the first wandering thought that flips into your mind.
 
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jennymae said:
Which proves that most inmates, regardless of color, are right where they belong.
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Only if that is all we can see. It actually speaks to what the feeling of helplessness in the depths of deprivation seems to bring out in all people.
 
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Only if that is all we can see. It actually speaks to what the feeling of helplessness in the depths of deprivation seems to bring out in all people.
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You may can have a point, but after having more than one hundred criminals passing through my office over the last six years, I find most of them to be sociopaths and non empathetic individuals. Some of them are not, but the vast majority is. But I don't have any statistics, just my own observations.
 
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I watch Orange Is The New Black, so I know everything about criminals. I'm just kidding , I know nothing except I never want to go there.
 
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And yet we don't want to elect an odd, red-faced little big-mouth who honestly does seem to want to change much of that. I dunno, but if my foot hurts from hitting it with a hammer, I'm going to quit hitting it with a hammer.
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We were supposed to vote for Jimmy Carter because he was a Christian too. I have the same problem. Wanting to do something isn't the same thing as being equipped to do it. I think Jimmy proved that point. As for this guy? I judge him by his actions.
-- He's gone broke twice. Both times were the day before his divorce was finalized. Within a month he was rich again.
-- He bails when he sense trouble. NOT a good quality for a President.
-- He says whatever he's thinking. (Yes, like me. But the reason I know I never want that job. lol) Oh boy! How is that going to work out when he has to meet the same people he dissed at the bargaining table? (hmmm. I forgot what "diss" is short for. lol) There are times to keep quiet. He has yet to learn that at all.
-- He divides. Same problem I have with the Dems. If we cannot work together, we cannot work.


Add to that, what he proposes I don't want. I won't vote for The Hill, but I'd rather eat liver for a month then be stuck having to vote for him. My political choices have absolutely nothing to do with BLM or race. I'm just not governed by race, unless we're talking the human race. I take people for who they are and leave the ones I can't take. Big problem with him. I can't take him!
 
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jennymae said:
You may can have a point, but after having more than one hundred criminals passing through my office over the last six years, I find most of them to be sociopaths and non empathetic individuals. Some of them are not, but the vast majority is. But I don't have any statistics, just my own observations.
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Are you willing to think on that a little?

You used the expression "passed through." I don't know what you do, but in the years I did work with the people caught in this legal system of ours, I saw at least 4,000 individuals who usually spent at least three or four months with me on a weekly basis. In actuality, there is not a heck of a lot of difference between you and me, and those people. There really isn't, as much as we would love to swear there is.
 
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jennymae said:
Which proves that most inmates, regardless of color, are right where they belong.
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And there are way too many of them NOT where they belong. They live out here with us.
 
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Well, let's face it, except for this last week, which probably won't last, he DOES come off sounding like a Willie Wonka Chocolate Factory worker.

In truth, we Whites have responded to his ranting and hollering just the way so many Blacks respond to Al and Jessie's ranting and hollering.
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To me, they're about equal in the reliability factor.
 
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I should have known better. Rabbit dogs can stay on track better than we can. LOL
 
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Willie-T said:
Are you willing to think on that a little?

You used the expression "passed through." I don't know what you do, but in the years I did work with the people caught in this legal system of ours, I saw at least 4,000 individuals who usually spent at least three or four months with me on a weekly basis. In actuality, there is not a heck of a lot of difference between you and me, and those people. There really isn't, as much as we would love to swear there is.
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I'm not saying they are very different. But their actions are, and people committing serious crimes do belong in prison. They may not have wanted to wind up like that, but their actions speaks volumes.
 
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Yes, that was one of the reasons I posted this. We talk about race all the time on here. But, in truth, we never really "discuss" it.

This was a real e-mail. One of many we receive from people who know we are not liberal.(Democrat) Especially from this gal. And, although it seems to, it should come as no surprise to Blacks that Whites have this sort of interaction rather frequently. The same as many Blacks do when Whites aren't around.

Yes, I was raised by a very good Black woman. But I see very few like Hattie anymore. I know they must still be around somewhere, but they seem to want people such as Al and Jessie and the BLM and other haters to represent them in the eyes of Whites. And this e-mail, and general opinions just like it, are the result of that representation.

My wife worked for the last 8 years of her career, as a supervisor of what was, basically, the Black segment of her company's clientele. But, other than the grandmothers who were raising the majority of the children, she has told me that, for the most part, these stereotypes are based on a very real and visible foundation. She said that most of the tutors she had in that area were White, because many of her Black tutors asked to be assigned to White neighborhoods. They were eager to tutor Black kids, but just didn't want to do so in Black neighborhoods... the very areas in which they, themselves, lived.

This kind of thinking HAS to say something to the rest of us, whether Black or White.

We see, all the time, Black people on TV complaining about the crime and drugs in their very own neighborhoods. Complaining the cops don't do anything. Yet, they not only refuse to assist the police in cleaning up their areas, but if an officer tries to arrest a punk who has just robbed one of them in their own store, what happens? That lone cop is on his own.

To bring the rubber to the road and be bitterly frank and honest, Whites have very little of that. Now, won't all people here agree with that statement... whether you are Black or White?

Why? Because we do not let some jackass community activists dictate our lives. And we sure don't let the gangs and druggies have free reign of our neighborhoods. In my own neighborhood, we have run out several people who attempted to set up shop like that here. If something looks suspicious in this neighborhood, within a matter of minutes, a patrol car is in the area. Why? Because several of us have called........ AND, we are standing in the street, waiting for the car, and clearly explaining what we saw. The officer even have to keep us from going down to that house with them.

It honestly does seem all too clear to mot Whites that almost no Blacks will never do that. Please tell me how White people are supposed to think of Blacks, in general, if this is the kind of thing we see reported over and over again on TV when even Black officers are interviewed?

I don't agree with crap like this teacher friend of ours sends out all the time........... but what is the Black community doing to help her, and others like her, to believe any other way? She really does see Blacks as "the problem" because you honestly seem to be fine with the massive representation you have. The representation Blacks are applauding.

Go online, and watch some of the videos of Sherriff David Clark being interviewed by black reporters. Go ahead and do it! I hope you are as shocked as I was. The man is all but shamed and ridiculed by his own people for his ideas that decent Black citizens need to take some serious responsibility for letting thugs run their neighborhoods, while, in effect, saying nothing.

So, even though some of us know many good Black people, I have to admit that I cannot honestly say to my White friends that they are wrong in what they think they see. Because that seems to be what most Blacks are perfectly content to have the world see of their community.

Do Blacks expect Whites to be the ones to get upset and do something about that? It wasn't Blacks who all but crushed the KKK. It was Whites. And we still do it whenever those filthy people rear what's left of their ugly heads. Are Blacks ever going to do the same with their own hate organizations? Or are they going to let them further poison White minds that are already well on their way to believing everything sold to them?

Did I upset some people here by passing on that racist e-mail? Well good. Because we all need to wake up and recognize that there is a strong undercurrent of that sort of thing going on everyday in both societies. And it won't stop until 95% of what people are constantly told about the other race, changes. And that takes work. Hard work, and risk.

Can a group meeting with officials, insisting on retaining the name, BLM, that has quickly become the banner of hatred against police ever do anything good? Not likely. It will just be some lip-service exchanged by a few well-intended people in a hidden room at a meeting hall if individual citizens don't choose to own their own streets by actually acting.

OK, go ahead and tell me where I am wrong, and all that I don't understand.
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It's not that your assessment is wrong, it's that to dig at the root problem is too painful for most because they have to admit that what they thought about the what the root cause is wrong.

I am fully aware that society relative to civil rights for black Americans was abysmal 50+ yrs ago, BUT the structure of the family unit was FAR greater intact.. THIS, more than ANY other problem, is the root cause of the stats you cited.

So we have to dig deeper, and more painful, to ask what happened to decimate the black family unit. And yes I am speaking in generalities, but the numbers don't lie. At least 75% of black children are born out of wedlock today. A staggering historic number.

The truth of the matter lies with politics, and specifically the Democrat party. Somehow civil rights, which were desperately in need of an overhaul, got mixed in with The Great Society programs, to be almost synonamous.

Democrats realized that by manipulating the black family structure, by offering "free stuff", be it, food stamps, free housing, welfare stipends, medicaid, etc.. etc.., THEN enacting laws that said if a mother has children out of wedlock they would get MORE benefits and married families would get less, AND the more out of wedlock children the MORE benefits, that blacks would always vote for them.

Then they further REFUSED to allow school choice, in essence trapping generations in failed inner city schools.

This formula has worked remarkably well as over 90% of blacks have reliably voted Democrat for over 40 yrs, EVEN though they see how EXCLUSIVELY Democrat Mayors and councilman have utterly destroyed the very cities they live in.

Democrats have also been incredibly successful in indoctrinating EVERYONE with an educational system that glorifies this entitlement culture, not just for blacks, but for everybody, under the guise "caring" more.

Couple all this with a media conglomerate that is over 90% Democrat registered or left affiliated, and you can see why no matter what facet of American life you look at, morals, economy, entertainment, and so on, we all FEEL the country decliningworse and worse each passing day.

And let's not let the Republicans off the hook. With a scant victory here and there they have done NOTHING to stop this agenda, more concerned with their own political and economic well-being.

This all by the way, explains the phenomenoum of how a reality game show host, billinaire narcissist, is what many people believe is the country's last hope of stopping the evils of leftism.
 
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