Israel is not America's 51st state so why do we give them a dime-?

I'm not buying into it either.

Israel isn't even a state, anyway..

Murdering children you say? You mean like when extremist muslims rape / torture / kill ten- year-olds for making drawings of Muhammad ?

The number of children maimed and injured by Israeli army bullets is believed to be much higher, according to statistics gathered by human-rights organizations, including the Israeli group B'tselem.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/98E95987-CA7A-4932-BFE1-5D1AA5064A30.htm

Israelis murder 3 children for throwing stones. A younger brother of one of the slain had been killed by the IDF 10 days ago. Child killing is an IDF sport.

The number of children shot while throwing stones at IDF tanks in the last two years has not been reported but the number must run into the hundreds. Some of these children were murdered by direct fire from the tank but many of them were shot by IDF snipers near the tank or hidden in buildings near by. At least 23 have been shot in the head.

An American soldier would NEVER deliberately pick out a 9-year-old child, put his cross-hairs on the face of this child and pull the trigger. The Israeli’s seem to see this as a sport. They have even shot 9-year-old girls.

By Haaretz Service and Agencies Sun., July 04, 2004

3 Palestinians killed in clashes with IDF
]Three Palestinians, including two youths, were killed during clashes with IDF troops in Gaza and in the West Bank on Saturday.

Troops shot and killed a 20-year-old Palestinian
in the Balata refugee camp near the West Bank city of Nablus.
]Palestinian sources said Mahmoud Alahwani, whose younger brother was killed by troops 10 days ago, was throwing stones at the soldiers when they opened fire on the demonstrators.

Earlier Saturday, IDF soldiers shot and killed a 10-year-old Palestinian boy and a 15-year-old youth and seriously wounded an adult in a confrontation with stone-throwing protesters in the northern Gaza Strip, according to Palestinian medics.

Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
September 8, 2003
The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm

'I can't imagine anyone who considers himself a human being can do this'
‘* Chris McGreal The Guardian 28 July 2003
Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother, Lila Abu Selmi. Almost every day here the Israelis shoot at random, so when you hear it you get inside as quickly as possible," says Mrs Selmi. "Haneen went to the grocery store to buy some crisps. When the shooting started, I came out to find her.

She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying, 'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other. She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,00.html

The Jews Murder a 7-year-old boy

this boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him Mohammed fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112055,00.html

Israel Baby is born then dies

]Ha'aretz *September 11, 2003 *Birth and death at the checkpoint

‘Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com

AN eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends, the youngster's grieving mother said today.

Video | News.com.au

Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy
Siege off Nablus January, 2004

Two men and a boy were killed by Israeli military fire since this morning. The first, Amjad Bilal Masri is a
15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bullet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

I could post a much longer list but you at least get the point

The number of children maimed and injured by Israeli army bullets is believed to be much higher, according to statistics gathered by human-rights organizations, including the Israeli group B'tselem.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/98E95987-CA7A-4932-BFE1-5D1AA5064A30.htm

Israelis murder 3 children for throwing stones. A younger brother of one of the slain had been killed by the IDF 10 days ago. Child killing is an IDF sport.

The number of children shot while throwing stones at IDF tanks in the last two years has not been reported but the number must run into the hundreds. Some of these children were murdered by direct fire from the tank but many of them were shot by IDF snipers near the tank or hidden in buildings near by. At least 23 have been shot in the head.

An American soldier would NEVER deliberately pick out a 9-year-old child, put his cross-hairs on the face of this child and pull the trigger. The Israeli’s seem to see this as a sport. They have even shot 9-year-old girls.

By Haaretz Service and Agencies Sun., July 04, 2004

3 Palestinians killed in clashes with IDF
]Three Palestinians, including two youths, were killed during clashes with IDF troops in Gaza and in the West Bank on Saturday.

Troops shot and killed a 20-year-old Palestinian
in the Balata refugee camp near the West Bank city of Nablus.
]Palestinian sources said Mahmoud Alahwani, whose younger brother was killed by troops 10 days ago, was throwing stones at the soldiers when they opened fire on the demonstrators.

Earlier Saturday, IDF soldiers shot and killed a 10-year-old Palestinian boy and a 15-year-old youth and seriously wounded an adult in a confrontation with stone-throwing protesters in the northern Gaza Strip, according to Palestinian medics.

Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
September 8, 2003
The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm

'I can't imagine anyone who considers himself a human being can do this'
‘* Chris McGreal The Guardian 28 July 2003
Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother, Lila Abu Selmi. Almost every day here the Israelis shoot at random, so when you hear it you get inside as quickly as possible," says Mrs Selmi. "Haneen went to the grocery store to buy some crisps. When the shooting started, I came out to find her.

She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying, 'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other. She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,00.html

The Jews Murder a 7-year-old boy

this boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him Mohammed fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112055,00.html

Israel Baby is born then dies

]Ha'aretz *September 11, 2003 *Birth and death at the checkpoint

‘Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com

AN eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends, the youngster's grieving mother said today.

Video | News.com.au

Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy
Siege off Nablus January, 2004

Two men and a boy were killed by Israeli military fire since this morning. The first, Amjad Bilal Masri is a
15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bullet hit Amjad in the back. He died on his way to the hospital. The second is Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

I could post a much longer list but you at least get the point

Israel is not America’s 51[SUP]st[/SUP] State. We Americans are not obligated to give Israel a dime much less $4billion. What for, so that they can afford to murder more Palestinian children-?

Israel the Beggar Is Taking Potshots at the U.S.
Netanyahu’s lousy relations with Obama are going to cost us hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid and severe damage to the IDF.
Jun 21, 2016 3:22 AM

And then, moments before the accord with Tehran was signed, Netanyahu rejected a generous offer from Obama to increase American aid to Israel to $4 billion a year, as compensation. Here Netanyahu lost twofold: Not only did he fail to prevent the agreement with Iran, he lost the opportunity to increase U.S. aid to Israel significantly.
And now Obama is slowly, coolly cooking up his revenge. Aid isn’t going to be $4 billion a year. It is going to be a lot less. The Israeli army will lose hundreds of millions of dollars in support, and money that could have been freed up for education, welfare and infrastructure, won’t be.

Moreover, now the vengeful Obama is demanding that any amount given to Israel be spent entirely in the United States. Previously, we could spend up to 26 percent of the funds to purchase materiel from Israel's military industries.

The new demand translates into a huge loss of $780 million a year for Israel’s defense industries – a death blow

http://www.haaretz.c...remium-1.726066

Please grow up, America has no enemies & the answer is NO, we should not give them a dime so that the can just use the money to murder more Palestinian children !!

“I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport."

http://www.ariga.com/5763/2003-01-19-windowsnewsletter.shtml

No you have not answered a thing. Posting an outside link speaks volumns of nothingness. I want you to state "your" opinion on why we should give Israel a dime.



The above is not an answer. Again, Israel is not America's 51st State so why give them a dime ?



Please take a bath first, I smell a rat in the room

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Zionists threw bombs into buses and cafes and sent bombs to British officials
November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbor, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants. This was done by Zionists who wanted to keep the ship in port but used to much explosives and killed their own by mistake. Note: The Zionists who blew up the ship then blamed a local village for the act and based on this false claim they murdered everyone in that village and then leveled it with bulldozers.

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. King David hotel was commandeered by the British army who set up their Head Quarters in the hotel. That HQ had a full guard detail of WWII veterans, communications center and a full complement of staff officers.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab café; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before thedetonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

The carnage was extensive and this period marked the first acts of terrorism. Now was this before the Zionists started this needless war or after--?

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before thedetonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

The carnage was extensive and this period marked the first acts of terrorism. Now was this before the Zionists started this needless war or after--?

**removed link with profanity**

I'm posting this so no one else clicks on it. As soon as you open it you are greeted with a giant**phrase removed** This poster is clearly an anti-semite. With the daily, global murders being perpetrated by muslims, he chooses to start a thread about Israel. How can someone hate so much?

I'm posting this so no one else clicks on it. As soon as you open it you are greeted with a giant **phrase removed** This poster is clearly an anti-semite. With the daily, global murders being perpetrated by muslims, he chooses to start a thread about Israel. How can someone hate so much?

The point is, you missed the point. Should America give Israel billions$

yes
no

I vote NO -

Why does America give Israel billions?

Same reason FDR passed the Lend-Lease act.

And I learned something new today,thank you Desdichado.