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p_rehbein, only God knows your motive for defending your sarcasm so vehemently by trying to humiliate others and hiding behind the cloak of "edifying the church." People are the church, p_rehbein. If you want to edify God's people, you need to be humble and honest about your own weakness of the flesh. So long as you contend that your flesh smells better than other people's flesh, you're in the flesh. Ask God for wisdom. He's faithful to give it. 
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Because we're all family, Tintin dear.
Seriously though, it boggles my mind how anyone could take YIG in a bad light. He was honest and forthright. He added so much to the threads and in so short a time. I mean, humorous sarcasm runs like a river thru-out the forums, doesn't it? And YIG is a master of tongue-in-cheek humor. His posts made me laugh so much! I don't understand why he in particular was discriminated against because of his satirical comments. I honestly don't.
Seriously though, it boggles my mind how anyone could take YIG in a bad light. He was honest and forthright. He added so much to the threads and in so short a time. I mean, humorous sarcasm runs like a river thru-out the forums, doesn't it? And YIG is a master of tongue-in-cheek humor. His posts made me laugh so much! I don't understand why he in particular was discriminated against because of his satirical comments. I honestly don't.
He wasn't complaining about you.
(Kind of thought you two would work through this, but I don't think either one of you caught what the other one was saying.)
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Now begin my nefarious plans to take over the world! MUWAHAHAHA. I need a real estate agent that can help me to secure a dormant volcano to make into my evil genius lair. I am also accepting applications for a henchman. You need only be able to fetch microwave burritos with efficiency and answer all of my inquiries to you with "yes, excellent one!"
And, okay. You don't get the humor. As a woman who has been told I have to wear dresses to church, keep my house beautiful and my hubby "happy," become a wonderful cook, learn how to can and sew, submit to anyone of the male persuasion, shut up until talked to... (
), I really do get that sense of humor.
At least you understood most of what I have said on this thread, and I give you credit for that. However, to suggest that I "don't get" the humor, I object to. And do so respectfully.
The "manifesto" published in the OP was not humor. The individual assertions were an insult to the Godly, loving people here on CC, as well as the Owners and Admins of CC, and to the Church. The OP as a "whole," was a direct insult to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and a "slap in the face' of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, as everything in that "manifesto" was directly against everything Christ taught in His Gospel.
Now, some say he wasn't being serious. I disagree. I think he said exactly what he meant, and exactly how he felt. I found no evidence of sarcastic wit, or tongue in cheek humor. I would certainly appreciate anyone here taking one or all of his assertions and pointing out the humor.
I do not find such statements that discredit the Gospel of Christ to be humorous, nor do I find such insulting assertions directed at pretty much the entire Church to simply be "biting humor."
And, reading through the comments that followed my first comment, what struck me was the hypocrisy being displayed. To reveal this hypocrisy, I decided to do EXACTLY what this person did. Post inflammatory, insulting comments, and disguise them behind a veil of "biting humor." All in all, given the comments I received, I'd say my experiment was a huge success.
He received numerous "glowing responses" telling him what a wonderful, loving, and masterful person he is, and begging him not to leave CC. He also revealed he had gone through all of this once before under another screen name, only to return and do it all over again. How many times are we going to have to put up with this kind of stuff?
I received..............well, folks can read for themselves what I received.
Same "biting humor." Same honest revelation by me of my thoughts and feelings as did he. Yet, two VERY DIFFERENT responses. I have to wonder why?
In order to appreciate humor, humor must be present. Belittling the Gospel of Christ, the Church in general, and the Godly, loving people I have met here on CC is not humor. Again, I would very much appreciate anyone going through the OP and pointing out this supposed "biting humor."
At least you understood most of what I have said on this thread, and I give you credit for that. However, to suggest that I "don't get" the humor, I object to. And do so respectfully.
The "manifesto" published in the OP was not humor. The individual assertions were an insult to the Godly, loving people here on CC, as well as the Owners and Admins of CC, and to the Church. The OP as a "whole," was a direct insult to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and a "slap in the face' of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, as everything in that "manifesto" was directly against everything Christ taught in His Gospel.
Now, some say he wasn't being serious. I disagree. I think he said exactly what he meant, and exactly how he felt. I found no evidence of sarcastic wit, or tongue in cheek humor. I would certainly appreciate anyone here taking one or all of his assertions and pointing out the humor.
I do not find such statements that discredit the Gospel of Christ to be humorous, nor do I find such insulting assertions directed at pretty much the entire Church to simply be "biting humor."
And, reading through the comments that followed my first comment, what struck me was the hypocrisy being displayed. To reveal this hypocrisy, I decided to do EXACTLY what this person did. Post inflammatory, insulting comments, and disguise them behind a veil of "biting humor." All in all, given the comments I received, I'd say my experiment was a huge success.
He received numerous "glowing responses" telling him what a wonderful, loving, and masterful person he is, and begging him not to leave CC. He also revealed he had gone through all of this once before under another screen name, only to return and do it all over again. How many times are we going to have to put up with this kind of stuff?
I received..............well, folks can read for themselves what I received.
Same "biting humor." Same honest revelation by me of my thoughts and feelings as did he. Yet, two VERY DIFFERENT responses. I have to wonder why?
In order to appreciate humor, humor must be present. Belittling the Gospel of Christ, the Church in general, and the Godly, loving people I have met here on CC is not humor. Again, I would very much appreciate anyone going through the OP and pointing out this supposed "biting humor."
Well, given what "choice number one" suggests, it shouldn't be any surprise what "choice number two" is.
As well, "not loving" was ONLY ONE SMALL PART of the OP.
If you KNOW you suffer from such as you describe, why on earth do you post such comments as the OP, and THEN expect people to NOT be OFFENDED? You SHOULD KNOW better than anyone your "struggles," and you should know better than to post such stuff..........yet............you did............and now, oh my goodness, if ANYONE disagrees, well........they are just on a "witch hunt."
As well, "not loving" was ONLY ONE SMALL PART of the OP.
If you KNOW you suffer from such as you describe, why on earth do you post such comments as the OP, and THEN expect people to NOT be OFFENDED? You SHOULD KNOW better than anyone your "struggles," and you should know better than to post such stuff..........yet............you did............and now, oh my goodness, if ANYONE disagrees, well........they are just on a "witch hunt."
p_rehbein, only God knows your motive for defending your sarcasm so vehemently by trying to humiliate others and hiding behind the cloak of "edifying the church." People are the church, p_rehbein. If you want to edify God's people, you need to be humble and honest about your own weakness of the flesh. So long as you contend that your flesh smells better than other people's flesh, you're in the flesh. Ask God for wisdom. He's faithful to give it.
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Seems like you're making the choice to be offended and you're upset people don't see the situation through your lens. That's fine. Maybe if you say it loud enough and long enough people will come around to your way of thinking. You can do that, or just accept that you don't see this as others do and walk away. If you think I was taking a dig at all of Christianity and every person on CC, that is your right to think that. It's not going to affect my sleep if people think less of me based on their own perceptions or interpretations.
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I have to say I support yourself asserting your viewpoints YIG everyone is entitled to them. But I am confused about the "biting humor" part? I didn't laugh and take you for real serious in your posting so am I missing something?
To people who don't get into the fray of these conversations, they are something to behold. Funny, but in the same way it's funny to watch a guy get hit in the crotch with a golf club on America's Funniest Home Videos. For some people though, those kinds of conversations are just their bread and butter. To those people was the OP posted, and the people who found the humor in it are the ones who just spectate at the mud-fighting that goes on here at CC. I know, i know...iron sharpens iron (which it really doesn't, remind me to teach you about the Moh's Hardness Scale sometime).
I dont entirely know what it is that your upset about in this post here, but one of the most annoying and frustrating things in this world for me is having a strong stance for something = extreme hatred. As someone who deals with homosexuality, I dont believe any actual regularly active member on this site hates homosexuals. If someone believes that saying homosexuality is wrong is hateful towards those who actively live that life, then they must also share that view towards those who struggle with things like pornography.
I also dont believe its wrong to speak out against unbiblical teachings, for example, if a catholic is praying to Mary the mother of Jesus, I believe it is the right thing to point out that this is wrong, and share what the bible says. Once again, that is not hate.
And not using bible verses in a debate, thats a terrible thing to refuse to do : p If you are talking about the bible, you absolutely need to back it up with the bible. Personal feelings are not a valid argument : p
And you say you dont share your thoughts in order to invite criticism, well you just did that here, this entire post is just that : p
Also, for someone whos making the claim to be more loving, more accepting and all that, you have an incredibly judgmental tone in this post, as if you look down everyone here on CC and are rubbing it in their faces, putting others to shame because they want to do right by God. I do not see you as the kind and loving person youve made yourself out to be here.
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Wise man. Penicillin can't kill the BDF and they don't make water hot enough to wash it off. It's a necessity though to have it, but boy do you ever have to be careful what you say and who you talk to there. I'm hopeful I can occasionally learn something there, but I have to make sure to don my Nomex fire suit before I go in there.
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I never made the claim to be more loving or kind. You inferred that. That's one of the big issues - people don't take words at face value and they read into them what they want to see. Yes, I rail against some of the membership here, but that does not mean I am saying I am not that. If I want to say something, I say it plainly. There's no need to infer something. Are people so afraid of speaking plainly that we all just go around trying to decipher each other's words instead of looking at them as they stand?
Me kind and loving? Not by a long shot.
Me kind and loving? Not by a long shot.
This thread is too stressful for me. Nothing is being accomplished in helping one side understand the other.
Each side is carping about the other side not understanding their own side and nobody is understanding what "I think" the point of the OP was, "If you don't like what I say, or who you think I am, deal with it. Don't make a big deal about it."
For the last 11 pages both sides have been making a big deal about not making a big deal about what they think the other side is saying.
I am just going to deal with it by unsubscribing to this thread. Deal with it. Don't tell me how un-CHristian I am because I don't agree with you. Isn't that what the OP was about?
If you disagree with me, deal with it. I don't care because I am going to deal with it by not reading or responding to what you say.
Each side is carping about the other side not understanding their own side and nobody is understanding what "I think" the point of the OP was, "If you don't like what I say, or who you think I am, deal with it. Don't make a big deal about it."
For the last 11 pages both sides have been making a big deal about not making a big deal about what they think the other side is saying.
I am just going to deal with it by unsubscribing to this thread. Deal with it. Don't tell me how un-CHristian I am because I don't agree with you. Isn't that what the OP was about?
If you disagree with me, deal with it. I don't care because I am going to deal with it by not reading or responding to what you say.