sparing the rod and spoiling the child

have fun beating ur kids then...have a amazing day!

Are you against excecuting Murderers ? Why or Why not

have fun beating ur kids then...have a amazing day!

If it were up to me murderers wouldn't be executed.I wouldn't kill them myself, and I wouldn't expect anyone else to. The night is always darkest before the dawn, and every person has capacity for change, remission or to find meaningful purpose.

'Have compassion for your enemies. Do good to those who hate you, speak no ill of those who curse you, wish-well for those who mistreat you'

Thou shalt not kill.

Do not condemn, that you are not condemned. For with what judgement you give, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

Have compassion for others as though they are you.

You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Truly I say to you, whatever you did not do for even the least of (men), you did not do for me.

This is my instruction; that you have compassion for one another as I have for you. There is no greater compassion than this, to sacrifice one's life for another.



Murder is wrong. But murder is an action. And actions require intent, or a particular state of mind. Suppose that you go to town and you feel under a compulsion to give, even though you don't really want to give away your money. So you give the money and then feel regret that you did it, because you didn't really want to do it. The same applies to sins.

We often do things under compulsions. Sometimes those compulsions, or feelings that 'we must', last for weeks at a time. We brood on things. That is human nature.

And likewise is our desire for vengaence. We conform to the outward standards of society's brutal justic (death penalty) because inside, we think that it is right. We desire eye for eye, blood for blood, tooth for tooth.

But there is a big difference between lawfulness ad righteouness. The real cause of that brutal justice is not 'god'. God doesn't make us kill murderers. We have the choice to allow it or disallow it in society. And the pivotal point is this; it depends on how forgiving we are inside, as a society.

If you were a judge and a man just recently in my country raped and murdered a 6 year old

You only have two choices either sentence to be excecuted or go free what will you do ?

I wouldn't be a judge of human courts to begin with. I have a hard time thinking of murdering someone; nomatter what they did. I can't ask someone else to do it.

I would lock him away, should it come to it.

You have heard way back in Genesis what GOD said
Genesis 9

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4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man

I wouldn't be a judge of human courts to begin with. I have a hard time thinking of murdering someone; nomatter what they did. I can't ask someone else to do it.

I would lock him away, should it come to it.

Romans 13

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13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

Acts 25
Paul Appeals to Caesar
10But Paul said, "I am standing before Caesar's tribunal, where I ought to be tried. I have done no wrong to the Jews, as you also very well know. 11"If, then, I am a wrongdoer and have committed anything worthy of death, I do not refuse to die; but if none of those things is true of which these men accuse me, no one can hand me over to them. I appeal to Caesar

I wouldn't be a judge of human courts to begin with. I have a hard time thinking of murdering someone; nomatter what they did. I can't ask someone else to do it.

I would lock him away, should it come to it.

1 Corinthians 6

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6 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

If you do not care about these passages it is sad because you should also ignore all the proverbs that speak about wisdom love etc . One can discipline there child with measure not only beating but also banning them from doing what they like.
most .
even the animals know how to beat theirs and I wonder why

If a theif breaks into your house to rape your best friend and then proceed to rape a little child what will you do if you know that their is an opputunity to get his gun from him because he left it idle Would you kill him even thouh you point the gun at him and he refuses to stop

Or even if you had the gun he still tries to attack you

You're misconstruing this.

They are saying 'if you (followers) have a matter needing settled between you, go to the saints for them to judge, because they will be the judges of angels. Don't go to the secular courts with your matter'.

Again, this is about righteousness. Secular justice isn't righteous justice.

Righteous justice is like the adulterous woman whom Jesus forgives. That's the kind of justice of the saints.

When a colt is new, it's teeth are actually soft fiber. But as they grow the teeth begin to harden. I once saw a mare turn and bite it's baby on the rump while it was nursing. Evidently it was using it's teeth to bite too hard on the mother.

As you say, even animals discipline their young.

To be fairly honest, that's a silly question. If I am in a house with a child about to be raped I'll kill the attacker if I have to. I'll probably spend most of my life feeling regret and guilt for it but a child is a child.

It still doesn't make any of it right. And pre-eminant attack out of a burst of epinephrine and a paternal reaction is far different than executing a man for a crime that has already happened.

To be fairly honest, that's a silly question. If I am in a house with a child about to be raped I'll kill the attacker if I have to. I'll probably spend most of my life feeling regret and guilt for it but a child is a child.

It still doesn't make any of it right. And pre-eminant attack out of a burst of epinephrine and a paternal reaction is far different than executing a man for a crime that has already happened.