A Heart Divided?

In regards to what Ugly posted!
There does seem to be a learning curve to staying out of harms way, or not stepping into something stinky that waste our time. There is a thread asking if Adam is Gay. Someone did mention this person being a Troll due to her many other thread starters.
Checking her profile stats. All of her questions were ludicrous.
Questions like!.. God says not to murder. So are we a murderer if we kill a plant or tree? Trees and plants are living.
So if someones questions or responses get a bit stinky. With a little research. One may find the best course of action may
be as Ugly suggested. Not to feed the trolls.

I had never really heard of internet trolls before getting on CC.
I just heard a radio program speak of the results from a questioner given out to regular people, and trolls of the internet.
The studies found that the trolls were Satanist, and that they enjoyed deliberately hurting people. There was two other findings that I do not remember at the moment. One could always do a Google search to confirm if what I heard is true.

I'm not a troll and I resent your post. I put you on ignore so why are you bothering me? If you are going out of your way to deliberately hurt me then God will hold you accountable. I don't care what you think so stop lurking on my post.

Just to prove that you are mistaken and that I am not a troll. I made this post to try to help someone on here as follows:

"I neglected to state some insights into your situation.

I understand his mother and family don't like you and they don't exactly hide the fact.

I can relate to that. My husband's family of origin is dysfunctional and they treated me like crap from day one. My family of origin also is dysfunctional and they never accepted my husband either. The point being is that when his mother, especially, insults you and rejects you she is actually insulting her own son indirectly and using you to do it. So he is not as close to his mother as you may think. In fact she may be a narcissist. Is your husband the black sheep of the family? If so then this behavior actually makes a lot of sense.

You need to set boundaries and let his family know that it is not okay to treat you like crap and that you won't put up with it. If he wants to go see his family and they can't respect you then he can go alone and they don't have to come to your home. If his family had any sense they would at least be civil towards you even if they didn't like you for the sake of your husband. But their failure to do so points to a dysfunctional family system.

Both my husband's parents are dead now. But before his mother died he went alone out of province to see her. He didn't want me there because he knows how I am treated by her and didn't want to put me through that. He went for a couple of days and it didn't bother me. The first time in 24 years that we were ever physically separated. He phoned me when he was staying with his sister so it worked out fine.

In fact when his mother died he didn't want me to go to the funeral either because he knows his family doesn't accept me but in that case I said I'm going whether you like it or not to be a support for him. He even argued with me about driving there because it is an out of province 11 hour drive but I told him I am driving the whole way because he is not driving because of the emotional upset. My eyes were burning in the last hour but I'm stubborn and I made it. My husband even boasted to his family that I drove the whole way by myself but they could care less.

So my point is that his family is dysfunctional and it started way before you came into the picture. And your husband needs to break away from his family of origin emotionally if not physically not only for the sake of your marriage but also for his own sake."

And this is the response that I got:

Thank you for your response, yes everything you've mentioned has been exactly what has happened, I am trusting God to take over now because my husband cannot remove himself on his own, his family literally has a hold in him.

There is another example but I will post it separately.

Here is the other example:

"So many posts on here and I have to get off. I have work to do. But, something just popped into my mind that I would like to share before I go.

This girl probably feels trapped and helpless and hopeless. That can make anyone difficult to be around or live with. It takes someone with great strength and compassion to be able to handle this without losing it. You might just have to take breaks just to gain back your composure.

But, if you really love this girl then you will stick with her no matter what because you love her and because she needs you. You get to learn that love is sometimes self-sacrifice. You will be a deeper person after this experience and if you survive this then your bond will deepen also.

Nothing like adversity to show what you are made of. Just look at it as an opportunity for character development."

So you are sadly mistaken. I am no troll. I help when I can and if I have experience in that area or something to share.

But I will not have people make false accusations against me and just sit there and take it. If what you say has any validity then I will consider it but if you are going to make false accusations then I will challenge each and every one of them.

Thank you.

I did ask nicely for clarification on your assumption. If you don't want to clarify what you mean then you are not here to help me but only here to take a jab at me and hurt me. That is very Godly isn't it???

I can wait a bit longer and just ignore or assume what you are saying which I don't like to do and then respond to your supposed assumptions. I would rather have clear communication though so please respond accordingly.

Thank you.

I'm also going to add posts here regarding theology which are not troll posts because I am not a troll. So here they are:

"God is a triune God. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.

Jesus was fully human and fully divine. Jesus is the eternal son of God. Jesus as the son of God pre-existed his incarnation.

Jesus was more than just a human otherwise how could he know so much about God and the scriptures even as a child?

Jesus had to come as a man because only by the shedding of blood is there remission of sins. The first Adam failed so Christ needed to be the second Adam. Christ needed to succeed where Adam failed. This is to fulfill the just requirements of God in regards to sin and the atonement.

Christ was way more than a man. Christ had the power to lay down his life and to raise it up again. The power of the resurrection is in Christ. Christ had the ability to forgive sin and only God can do that. That is why the Jews were so mad at him because they knew this was implying that he was divinity. The miracles that Christ did also prove his divinity.

The trinity does not mean three separate Gods nor does it mean God in three different forms at different times. It means three under one godhead. It is very hard to explain but it is biblical and can be proven with scriptures."


"Christ in his humanity died. Christ was fully human and fully divine. Christ said it was finished on the cross and that referred to him dying for sins as in his humanity. Jesus as God can never die. Jesus is the eternal son of God. Jesus did not become the son of God when he was born as a human but was the eternal son of God and was with the Father in the beginning.

The only one who accepted the cloak of humanity was Jesus. God the Father is pure spirit. The Holy Spirit also spirit.

When Jesus was raised to life it was his body that was raised. Jesus stated that he is the resurrection and the life. Jesus has eternal life in him so he can never die.

The only reason Jesus came to die in his humanity was in order to fulfill the requirements of God in regards to a one and final sacrifice for the payment of sin so that man could be reconciled to God through Christ and his sacrifice."


"Jesus cannot be an angel since all angels are created beings. That would cancel out his divinity."


"The Jews received salvation first before the Gentiles."

So again, I am not a troll so I would like an apology for that false accusation. And in fact because of your false post someone else whom I have added to my ignore list has come here and posted false things insinuating I am a troll and Satanist. I mean really. How sick can you people get? This is considered bullying. More than one has come here to gang up on me and insult and degrade me. And one took a jab but won't clarify what they meant. That is not why I came here to get treated like this.

This kind of nonsense definitely doesn't come from God but the Devil who is an accuser of the brethren.

Thank you.

Looks like you are not going to clarify what you said which proves you did not come here to help but to harm. Some Christian charity?

Now I guess I have to assume what you meant since you are not able to back up what you say.

No one has literally walked out of my life physically. I have known my husband for 24 years and been married for 22 years and we have never been separated and we are not getting a divorce and he is not going anywhere. My husband appreciates my directness since there is no second guessing what I mean. He also appreciates my integrity and likes my spunk. So you are wrong on that one.

If it is the estranged friend you are referring to that I met online doing theological videos that gave me some emotional support about four years ago then you would still be wrong. I tried to cut off the friendship first because of the risk and he still wanted to continue it. Then after I did confront him on a few things and he didn't want to address the issue. But I would have had to cut off the friendship anyways since I am married and not free and overall I don't have male friends nor do I want any. A person on here made a post and she understood what happened because the friend in question has Aspergers. So what you are saying is false. At one time this friend said he was happy to communicate with me but like I said I wouldn't be able to continue a friendship anyways because I am married and it is a stumbling stone.

So I don't think you quite know what God wants me to see since you are making false assumptions like everyone else around here and don't even have the decency to explain your vague comment which I really think is just a jab.

So I hope that clears everything up.

I just wanted to add something for you to consider.

How is it even remotely Christian for you to come here and insinuate something, not back it up with facts, and then disappear and refuse to clarify what you meant? I think that is cowardly. Also, how is it Christian of you to try to make me feel like crap. I came here asking for help as in prayers and mostly what I have received is nasty false accusations and personal jabs.

You cannot insult someone and then try to cloak it with God bless you. That is so phony and insincere. And that definitely is not Christian nor is it loving.

So I had a few more things to say about this erroneous and defaming post. First of all Ugly is wrong. Second of all the so called Adam is Gay post has absolutely nothing to do with me and it doesn't belong here. My post was asking for prayer so you are overstepping your boundaries.

So you are insinuating that I am a troll which is a blatant lie.

And then you state that trolls are Satanist so you are indirectly insinuating that I am a Satanist. This is a most evil thing to do. I was saved as a child and am indwelt by the Holy Spirit and sealed for the day of redemption which is the bodily resurrection. I belong to Christ Jesus and he has purchased me with his blood. I know I belong to Christ because my spirit attests to this fact. So you are a liar. You obviously have some kind of problem so you need to stay away from me and my posts.

This is totally disgusting since I sent you a message hoping that you find what you are looking for in a mate and this is how you repay me? This place is full of evil hypocrites. Totally pathetic. Shame on you!

I see that the person who refuses to clarify the insulting post actually liked a post by some sick person regarding trolls and Satanist's? Well, you are no Christian. You have shown your true colors. Not only do you falsely accuse me like Satan but then you are a coward and don't clarify and back up what you say and then you like a lie? No real Christian would do that.

May God help all of you who either think it is funny or somehow feel entitled to lie about me and falsely accuse me. You are very sick and either you don't care or you don't realize what evil you are doing and what damage you are doing.

This is very disappointing to be lied about by people who claim the name of Christ.

You have been on my ignore list for over 30 hrs from the time of this message. After having responded to what Ugly had said. I had concerns that somehow you would feel as if I was attacking you. The thread poster that I spoke of asking if Adam is gay is not you. I saw that you have like nine messages back to back with no one responding in between.
So I took a peek at this one message only of yours. Not the eight below it.

To clean this up. I do not believe that you are a troll. I could be wrong. But I am assuming that trolls are Non Christians. That is not you. I do not know what is going on with you. But nobody can get any help to you on any accounts.
You seem to be at war with everyone. I used the word seem. That makes it not an accusation.

At times I like to read or think of what I believe to be GALATIANS 5: 15 through 21?
The Bible speaks of if we are of the Spirit or the flesh? As Christians!.. We are to seek of being in the Spirit at all times

Being in the Spirit is of love, kindness, tenderheartedness,forgiveness and compassion.
The flesh is all about, Wrath, anger, hatred, jealousy and revenge.
Where is your heart at LRG? What is your way of being now? Flesh or Spirit?
That is all I have to say. I wish you the best. You are going back on my ignore list now. Sorry for that

You said you had some of us on your ignore list. Obviously not since you've responded. As for my responses to that woman, that has nothing to do with this thread. Maybe I could have been less harsh in what I said, but it is what it is: the truth. She kept telling us he told her he didnt want her, yet that wasnt sinking into her. If people cant handle hearing the truth, then they shouldnt ask for opinions.

As for you, you ARE on my ignore list and on the lists of a few others here. I simply unblocked you to read your reply because I knew you'd leave a nasty one to any replies you received on here. You always do.

I have read posts of yours on other threads and amazingly enough, you DO give some good advice BUT you get angry and defensive when your posts are commented on and differed with. This is a public forum so get used to having yourself disagreed with. You say you're indwelt with the spirit of Christ? Well why do you get so nasty and mean and namecall us then? Jesus never got mad at those who disagreed with him. Maybe you should carefully reread your replies to people on here and see just how truly nasty to people you are. I have given you over to God because obviously you need more help than we can offer you. The difference between you and me is you get mad and take offense at nearly everything. I DON'T.

If someone takes issue with what I say, they usually let me know but then they drop it and let it go and move on. Since you choose to respond to us, obviously you just like to argue and fight. I agree with Angelique but I also agree with Ugly--feed something, and it only grows. Thankfully, this is my last response to you because you just don't listen or take advice.

I had started to respond to the accusation below a few days ago, but for the sake of not creating drama, i decided to just move on. But if you are going to be insistent and need drama, here is all you will get from me. And since this is your thread, and not someone elses, i also, for that reason, decided to respond. This is my final response to you as i will not cater to or be sucked into your drama.

Quoting LRG:
http://christianchat.com/christian-family-forum/100179-how-do-i-control-my-frustration-my-gf-2.html - Post 38
Ok. Let me show you how i came to the conclusions i have.

http://christianchat.com/christian-family-forum/100179-how-do-i-control-my-frustration-my-gf-2.html
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http://christianchat.com/prayer-requests/99922-heart-divided-5.html#post1717570 - Post 39
http://christianchat.com/christian-family-forum/100179-how-do-i-control-my-frustration-my-gf.htm

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And this is just ONE thread. I skim over the other threads you have posted in and see similar attitudes and treatments of other people.
Not to mention in This very thread, Page 3, Post 54, you start out your post with bad language.

So there. Your own words, not mine. Now I will be curious to see if you respond to your own words that have been put in front of you, or if you will just accuse me of judging, call me names, get defensive and completely avoid your own words put up in front of you. Or justify yourself somehow.

There is a reason behind what I say. I have only responded to either defend myself against false accusations or to stick up for someone else that I feel was being picked on such as that post regarding a person's marriage and also the man with a girlfriend with cancer.

Your false accusations and attacks do not come from God.

And it is more than obvious that you refuse to hear what I have to say so I am not going to waste my time explaining myself to you.

I do not want drama and I would appreciate it if you stay off my posts.

Thank you.

I'm sorry but what you and others on here are doing is falsely accusing and that is not a fruit of the Spirit. You like to point fingers but you don't look at yourself. I also tried to explain things more than once to you but you refuse to hear so I am not trying anymore. I also told you more than once that I basically didn't want you lurking on my post and I meant that. I do not care if you have me on your ignore list because I do not wish to communicate with you. Your false accusations and craziness is not helping me and I don't need someone like you bringing me down.

Ugly is wrong and he doesn't listen either.

And ladybug is most obnoxious and I could go on.

I came here asking for prayers and I got false accusations and false assumptions.

That is not what I came here for and that is not what I am going to accept.

I will only accept actual prayers from actual Christians that are willing to listen and not falsely accuse.

And you are wrong about no one can help me. Another lie from the Devil.

There is one who posted on here who did help me and you already know that but yet you lie.

Not all who claim to be Christian's are and falsely accusing is what Satan does and that is what you do. So you have no fruit of the spirit. And you are not sorry for putting me on your ignore list. Who are you trying to kid? You are a very sick individual that wants to hurt someone. I reject all your false accusations and insults.

I do not wish for you to come to my posts any more and please stop lurking on my post. I do not wish to communicate with you any further. I would appreciate it if you would respect my wishes and boundaries.

Thank you.

You are a most vile and evil person. You are full of lies and false accusations and the accuser is Satan and the Father of Lies is the Devil and that is exactly who you are supporting by what you are doing.

I never make lies up about other people. I only defended myself against false accusations made against me and I also stuck up for that woman whom you unfairly attacked on her marriage post. You were not trying to help her. You were trying to enforce your will on her. What you said was not helpful at all and she told you that you were wrong but you just kept coming back at her. There were other people on that post that didn't like what you were doing either and told you that you were not listening.

What you say is not truth. It is what you think is truth but you are not the determiner of truth. Only God is. You are nothing more than an internet bully as far as I am concerned and based on the number of posts you make a day on average you don't have anything better to do. The Bible teaches to be busy and not a busybody. The Bible teaches not to bear false witness against your neighbor.

Yes, you were put on my ignore list. You can lie all you want it doesn't matter. I don't think too much of you and you are just plain nasty and vile and full of evil false accusations.

You don't have the capability to help me since you do not listen and do not have any compassion. You just attack and attack and even when it is clear that a person doesn't want to communicate with you you still come around and attack. You do not respect other people's boundaries at all. You obviously have your own problems that you need to deal with.

Your comment and I quote:

"As for you, you ARE on my ignore list and on the lists of a few others here. I simply unblocked you to read your reply because I knew you'd leave a nasty one to any replies you received on here. You always do. "

Good for you. Do you think I care? I'm on the ignore list of a few others here? So? Probably those same ones who falsely accuse like you. Actually that is a good thing because I don't need people like you and any other false accusers on my posts since you are not here to help but to hurt.

And another quote from you:

"I have read posts of yours on other threads and amazingly enough, you DO give some good advice BUT you get angry and defensive when your posts are commented on and differed with."

That is a cloaked insult when you state amazingly enough. Just shows what a jerk you are. I get angry when I am falsely accused. Don't you understand basic English? Someone falsely accusing is not the same as a differing viewpoint. Christians are not supposed to falsely accuse.

You also quote:

"Since you choose to respond to us, obviously you just like to argue and fight. I agree with Angelique but I also agree with Ugly--feed something, and it only grows."

No, I am defending myself against false accusations. You have no right to falsely accuse me of anything and neither does anyone else. Angelique happened to make an unclear statement that didn't sound very nice or accurate so I asked for clarification and never got it. She basically made a cloaked insult and didn't have the courage to back it up. I responded to the alleged false accusation as best I could and no response. Just basically planted an insult and false accusation and then disappeared like a coward. Ugly accused me of being a troll and that is a lie. He doesn't listen either. I proved that I am not a troll but he totally ignored what I said and just kept on going with the false accusations. Like I already said false accusations come from Satan and it is really you and company that don't listen. You seem to act like everyone has to listen to you and do what you say but you don't want to listen to someone else and you do not respect other people's boundaries.

You only care to hear the sound of your own voice and your voice is not welcome on any of my posts.

I would ask that you respect my wishes and boundaries and stay off my posts. What you are doing does not come from God and I don't wish to entertain your nastiness or false accusations any further.

And finally your quote which is very telling:

"Thankfully, this is my last response to you because you just don't listen or take advice."

This shows that you demand that someone listen to you and do what you say. You could care less what the other person is really going through. You could care less to try to have empathy and try to understand someone else. Your attitude is like my way or the highway. You think you know it all. You made judgments on that person with the married post and you don't even know her or her husband. A person cannot adequately explain their whole life on a message forum and you are unwilling to be corrected on your false assumptions. You do not even have the humility to accept that you don't know everything there is to know and that you could be interpreting things wrong. Don't you think that woman knows her husband better than you do? You never even met the guy but yet you judge and you think you are right. You are just full of yourself and your own opinions.

As for me I don't want to hear your opinions on my posts. I don't want your false accusations on my posts and I don't want you on my posts either. I've seen you also lurking on my post so you are the one who wants to fight.

I would ask that you stay off my posts and respect my wishes and boundaries.

Thank you.

This is in the Prayer Request forum? I thought they only put each other down like that in the Bible Discussions forum.

I wonder if anyone remembers how this thread started out... Nah, who cares? Let's get back to dissing people and yelling at them, woohoo!

Ladybug: You are lurking on my post right now.

I asked you to stay away from my post and to respect my boundaries.

You are very dysfunctional and it is you who are looking for trouble.

I would ask again that you stay away from my post and I don't want any further communication with you.

That means no more false accusations, no more lies, not even an apology.

I don't want any communication with you whatsoever.

Do you know what boundaries are? Please respect mine then.

Thank you.

I have re-posted my prayer request without all the details to try to avoid any false accusations. If you want to pray for me then you are welcome to do so.

Any sincere prayers are greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

This is NOT your post. This is a public forum on a christian chat site.

Your behaviour, language and attitude is not that of a Godly Christ like person.

The person my heart goes out to and who I pray for is your husband. God bless him greatly. I will be blocking your posts. I absolutely adore blue_ladybug..she is funny sweet and caring. I also have huge amounts of respect for ugly and the others.

God bless you but you need to examine your behaviour.