I happen to be a Satanist

Mythology? Um...I dont know. I guess I find it interesting on some level. But I'm not really into it or anything. I'd say I'm more interested in it's sociological affects on society, rather than mythology itself. I'd rather see how it influenced, for good or for bad.

And hey dont be offended. I'm taking you at your word. No harm meant. I'm just saying the truth. We dont know if that is true or not. It's just one of those things that we will never know. But i stand by my thoughts that even if he DID say those words...why does that matter?

Does that somehow change the philosophy? Make it wrong all of a sudden?

One of the popular diets...I forget which one...Atkins maybe? Anyway, the doctor that invented it died fat. But thousands of people have tried the diet and it really works. The doctor just didnt have the will power to go through with his own creation. He was too gluttonous. But he was smart and knew it would work. Scientifically it just made sense.

I thought the same thing. I've been in similar situations in the past and it never helped me, only made me feel more awkward and more of an outsider. Brilliant idea OP.

Aww..I'm so sorry to hear that I just lost my grandparents recently too. It was awful. I wouldnt want to witness it. Fortunately I wasnt there but I saw them a few days before and they were bad. It's not something anyone should have to see.

Theres just so many scientific ways to explain these things you mention. Small children are very impressionable. They get a little glimpse of something and they NEED to know more about it. They could have heard something on tv, or over heard some stranger talk about God or anything. And if not, it's still understandable that they are curious like everyone about where they came from. Usually, they are probably told the stork! lol.

I actually experienced something myself. And, as you know, I dont believe in anything and have no reason to make anything up... But it wasnt near death or anything but I was hallucinating the most terrible of things and I heard crazy things....I was completely delusional and irrational. I didnt take any drugs or anything. There is no reason for this to happen. But I saw scary things...I thought I was going to die taht night. I dont know if I had a psychological break or what. But it was so devastating. I was sure I would die that night. It's almost impossible to describe. I saw faces in the walls. Creatures. It's like every horror movie or terrible thought you've ever had came to life all around you. It was like hell.

It finally stopped and I just couldnt believe it stopped. I was waiting for it to come back and it did that night but it wasnt as bad. I saw people as corpses. Really bad things. I dont even like talking about it. But I have no explaination as to why it happened.

Was it demons? Mild schizophrenia? I dont know.

But it hasnt happened since and I never want it to happen again.

Actully Beth he died at home in his first church and his own daughter who is now high priestess of his doctrine acknowledges his last words as well and as you just stated he was heavily medicated just before his death due to the pain he was suffering through he spoke no words in his last week of life save those which I have told you I am not just making this up as I go along. One of the few benefits of having been a self proclaimed atheist turned christian is all the knowledge I gained in that time while I was lost, kind of a testament to to the rewards of evil as it were. This is why I am on a mission to try and help those who do not have the benefit of the knowledge I posess in order to do the good works of our Lord. This is my self appointed pennance inrepentance of the wicked life I once led and from time to time find myself falling back into due to lack of faith on my part.

peace and love to you

corripiens iridis manet

I agree that small children can get their ideas from the Tv. And they wouldn't know what to call God until they here that word in it's context, but I believe as well that they understand God early and often have greater faith in God then grown up Christians. I would go along the same route and say it was either demons or mild schizophrenia. Either one is scary. Since you told me that I might as well tell you that I have bipolar and demonic problems. I know demons are real because ever since I spoke to some one night to give them permission over my life (I was delusional) I have had numerous unexplained things happen to me. Including feeling an itchiness somewhere every night and if I put my hand on that spot it will move to a different spot. I have had a heightened sense of smell, where I eventually prayed that God take away forever, and immediately He did and I've never had it since. I would be kept asleep while I struggle to get up only to awaken to a flashing shadow figure on my ceiling. Anyway I think God gave you that experience to wake you up to the fact that the spiritual world may be real and He's beginning to call you to His Kingdom.

How old were you when you decided to be a satanist

Did I miss something? What did Michelle say that makes everyone so concerned for her?

Questions I have for you
#1 Do you believe in satan if so then why
#2 Do you believe in an afterlife
#3 how long have you been a devoted satanist
#4 Do you believe in yourself
#5 Do you give credence to quantum theory, theory of relativity Darwinism etc. other words things you cannot sense with any of the 5 senses

Ok now I am confused.......

Keep in mind I don't really care...but still... I am confused.

Yes we will pray. May Jesus bless you.

heysweety,
im praying for wisdom to come to you as you age.everyone has diffrent theorys when it comes to religion.i just hope your experinces threw life lead you to were you need to be.wisdom is the way to life.threw age and experince we learn many things.i just pray that you have many possative role modles and that god will send you more.i love you sweetheart and dont let socity influnce you.be yourself,be real and take care.in jesus name.amen.message me anytime youd like.im not a debator,just a friend.and if you want to talk about anything at all you can.i wont be judgemental and may be able to help you.im not the wisest but i have had many experinces in many things.

perhaps I should rephrase to save the confusion sorry my bad

I said that he spoke no words in his last week of life save.....(except)... those which I had already told you

Which were:
"OH NO...... NO, NO........ THIS IS ALL WRONG.......WHAT HAVE I DONE"

Basically as I understand it he was given sight to see...and actually saw hell just before he died
There were many of his followers present at his death as this is a time that satanist's believe is very powerful.... and in Lavey's case, as their high priest he hands down his powers and of course they, the followers, all want a piece of the action or his powers!

personally I'm glad the lord found me

hope this clears it up

corripiens iridis manet

Yes, you missed the very first post in the thread, and the title of the thread where someone decided to start a thread with no purpose other than to point out that Michelle is a satanist.

Seems to me we could find better threads to make than ones singling people out for their beliefs and trying to make a spectacle of them. But i suppose i'm not too surprised, considering there are some people on this site that seem to make a normal habit of that type of behavior.

I haven't read all the posts (as usual, I'm lazy), but I just have to say that I am really impressed with your intellect, Michelle94! Satanist or not, I just love the way you think! One day you will be a great defender of the christian faith. I can dream can't I? Never thought I'd say this to a satanist, but I think I'm actually glad you are here. Welcome to CC

I was 14 when I discovered and started extensively researching the philosophy of Satanism.

1. I do not believe in a physical entity known as "Satan".
2. I do not believe in an afterlife.
3. I said that I'd basically been a Satanist since the age of 14, but I don't like using the term "devoted". Satanist's tend to be loners. We don't meet up every Sunday in a congregation. I would not die for my beliefs or become a martyr for my thoughts. If placed in a position where physical harm could come to me by admitting my views, I'd quickly keep it private. Most Satanists do indeed keep it private. This religion is a bit taboo in the public eye. We may not be able to get good jobs or have certain luxuries if we admitted to our beliefs, or lack of beliefs. This, however, should not be confused with doubt...or that we are not serious about it. It's not a joke. And we are everywhere. Chances are you may have run into a Satanist in your day to day lives and never know. We are normal people. We are not sick or crazy. We try our best to be law-abiding citizens. There is a lot of propaganda about animal and human sacrifices and blood ceremonies. This is hog wash. Nonsense, all of it.
4. Of course I believe in myself. This is a major and important part of the philosophy. As we do not believe in any gods or goddesses, we better be able to believei n ourselves! lol.
5. I won't pretend to know everything about quantum physics. i have dabbled in it a bit, but my knowledge is very weak. But to answer your question...if this is your question?...Yes of course I believe in things I cannot see. We know germs exist. We can't see them. We know there are microscopic things we can only see under extreme magnifying conditions. We know about elements. We know what oxygen is. These things can all be tested for in a laboratory and be proven. The difference is that we cannot prove that God exists. Just like Santa Clause. We can neither prove, nor disprove it's existance.

[quote=Muskokaman;529753]Actully Beth he died at home in his first church and his own daughter who is now high priestess of his doctrine acknowledges his last words as well and as you just stated he was heavily medicated just before his death due to the pain he was suffering through he spoke no words in his last week of life save those which I have told you I am not just making this up as I go along. One of the few benefits of having been a self proclaimed atheist turned christian is all the knowledge I gained in that time while I was lost, kind of a testament to to the rewards of evil as it were. This is why I am on a mission to try and help those who do not have the benefit of the knowledge I posess in order to do the good works of our Lord. This is my self appointed pennance inrepentance of the wicked life I once led and from time to time find myself falling back into due to lack of faith on my part.

peace and love to you

corripiens iridis manet[/quote]

perhaps I should rephrase to save the confusion sorry my bad

I said that he spoke no words in his last week of life save.....(except)... those which I had already told you

Which were:
"OH NO...... NO, NO........ THIS IS ALL WRONG.......WHAT HAVE I DONE"

Basically as I understand it he was given sight to see...and actually saw hell just before he died
There were many of his followers present at his death as this is a time that satanist's believe is very powerful.... and in Lavey's case, as their high priest he hands down his powers and of course they, the followers, all want a piece of the action or his powers!

personally I'm glad the lord found me

hope this clears it up





Not sure where you are getting your info, Muskokaman, but you've got some wrong info never the less.

He died in St. Marys Medical Center in Sanfrancisco, Ca. Once again, it was NOT proven that he said ANYTHING. The ONLY source of this information that I have found was a female televangelist that was probably looking for ratings. She didnt say how she heard this, or from where or who or anything. Televangelists are known for lying and scamming people out of their hard earned money. I have no doubt this is the case. But even if he did say these words, it makes no difference to me. It is NOT proof of "seeing hell" or anything. How can you jump to such bizarre speculations?

There were NO reported "followers" present at his death. And frankly, I doubt he would have wanted them to have been there anyway. He was very misanthropic and didnt like being around people too much.

Satanits do NOT believe that death is powerful time...lol where are you getting this stuff from? You obviously don't know much about how we are. Death is a time of weakness. LaVey himself has said "Life is the great indulgence, death is the great abstinence". Death is not a powerful time at all. Satanism is all about LIFE. Nothing to do with death. It's a very here and now type religion. What sort of power could possibly come out of death?

"he hands down his powers and his followers want a piece of his powers"???? Not sure what you are talking about. Mabe you are thinking of some other religion...or something strange like Witchcraft that actually deals wtih magic spells or something....I have no idea....LaVey had NO power to pass on to anyone...

So...I hope this clears something up for you.

To everyone else, you guys must feel like your getting quite a LaVey history lesson! I am sorry about this biographical nonsense. You don't need to hear this stuff if you don't want to. I would be more than happy to discuss the principals of our philosophy if asked. But I never intend on forcing it down anyone's throat. So this will be my last mention of LaVey unless someone else starts saying something else that is wrong or stupid. The internet is full of mis-information. We don't need to add to it. I will try my best to clear up any misunderstandings anyone has.

But for the record, Satanism is a healthy and applicable religion in modern day society. It does NOT promote suicide, death, or destruction of any kind. It is about tolerance of ALL religion. It is about happiness. It is about control. We are about indulgence...NOT compulsion. We believe in our earthly bodies. Carnal pleasures. We are loving and caring people to those who love and care for us. We even believe in certain aspects of the Christian Bible. Personally, I think the Christian Bible is wonderful Bible to live your life by for the most part. There are some great teachings in there. I just don't believe in it in a literal way. I think it is more metaphorical stories to help inspire a kind and healthy society.

Hope this clears some things up! Thank you everyone!



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and thank you, Zeroturbulance, for your kind words!!!

As many other posters have noted, I wasnt the one that started this topic...I was sort of spot-lighted and for that reason, I feel I should defend myself. Never intended on making a big spectacle of my choices. Then again, I do feel that people should be aware, as there is a lot of misinformation as I said earlier regarding the public persona people have on Satanism.

I come to this site as i am genuinely interested in relgion. I find religion of all kinds absolutely fascinating! I was raised Christian for many years and only somewhat recently started looking into alternative options, as christianity seemed flawed and laced with hypocrisy to me.

Religion was always my favorite subject in Catholic school. I never could get enough of it. I used to read The Bible to other students, at nauseum in some cases. I've had terrorfying dreams of the apocolapse and the anti-christ and all sorts of other things.

Religion is truly an amazing thing, isnt it? With so many religions out there, how does someone choose? Nearly 100% of the time, children continue in whatever religion or denomination that they were raised and that their parents are/were. I've met full grown adults that have told me that they only remain in whatever church they are in out of respect for their deceased parents. They are somewhat sure that there is an afterlife and dont want to upset them as they are "looking down upon me". I know, ridiculous right?

Religion has a LOT on the line. We are talking about a potential everlasting soul here. This is not something to joke about. No one wants to burn in hell for all eternity for picking the wrong religion.

I find it a phenomenal psychological/sociological experiment in a sense. I think people are so confused. Do you honestly have any idea how many christians are out there who never even opened up a Bible?

I'd like to educate people. Though, it might be a hopeless cause. There are a lot of stupid people in the world.

In the end, it's just a very interesting topic to me that I enjoy learning about.