I happen to be a Satanist
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mmm I have no feelings for you either way. I've read maybe 5 of your post and this is online so its not like I know you at all. My husband's cousin is a lesbian and she used to live with us for a year when we were first married and I love her even though we don't agree.
So I don't know why you get the impression that I speak because of dislike for you.
I don't trivialize rape. many of my friends have been raped I just asked a blunt question and it is a horrible thing but it is worst to ignore that it happens and blame the victim for it.
I never said she chose it because she was raped, you are adding to my words your own bias.
I'm glad you found some decent people to spend time with here.
why do some people always get offended by questions and think its because I dislike them?
how are you suppose to have a conversation if you don't ask each other questions?
So I don't know why you get the impression that I speak because of dislike for you.
I don't trivialize rape. many of my friends have been raped I just asked a blunt question and it is a horrible thing but it is worst to ignore that it happens and blame the victim for it.
I never said she chose it because she was raped, you are adding to my words your own bias.
I'm glad you found some decent people to spend time with here.
why do some people always get offended by questions and think its because I dislike them?
how are you suppose to have a conversation if you don't ask each other questions?
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you see I don't create my GOD. but GOD created me. you think you can create GOD but you can not. you can only create IDOLs and you have only encountered False gods, demons, and other deceiving spirits....
oh I do not think you ARE a demon. demons have no bodies, but people are often influenced by their dark whisperings and they allow their seeds to grow into tares and the thing the person who willingly submits to them doesn't realize is the poison the snake seeps into their heart.
poison against God first, then against the world, against friends, against family. eventually there will be no trust for anything but it is a slow poison and often sugar coated with money, power, fame, glitter and things the world seeks. anyways I've got to go and i didn't read past this post so I'll come back tomorrow.
I apologize if I offend you but I simply express my beliefs as you have expressed yours. It is not a personal judgment on YOU because I do not know you. Therefore if you are as intelligent and logical as and fair as you would have us believe, you would realize that this conversation is not about YOU but your strongholds that war against the knowledge of God.
You all are still in my prayers and I hope God leads you to His light and love.
oh I do not think you ARE a demon. demons have no bodies, but people are often influenced by their dark whisperings and they allow their seeds to grow into tares and the thing the person who willingly submits to them doesn't realize is the poison the snake seeps into their heart.
poison against God first, then against the world, against friends, against family. eventually there will be no trust for anything but it is a slow poison and often sugar coated with money, power, fame, glitter and things the world seeks. anyways I've got to go and i didn't read past this post so I'll come back tomorrow.
I apologize if I offend you but I simply express my beliefs as you have expressed yours. It is not a personal judgment on YOU because I do not know you. Therefore if you are as intelligent and logical as and fair as you would have us believe, you would realize that this conversation is not about YOU but your strongholds that war against the knowledge of God.
You all are still in my prayers and I hope God leads you to His light and love.
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that is because the Truth is not an intelligectual concept but a Person. Truth is God and can only be revealed by a personal relationship with Jesus through His Holy Spirit.
what do you know of Jesus?
What do you know of God's plan of salvation?
Do you avoid spiritual things out of fear of experiencing those nightmares again?
what do you know of Jesus?
What do you know of God's plan of salvation?
Do you avoid spiritual things out of fear of experiencing those nightmares again?
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that is because the Truth is not an intellectual concept but a Person. Truth is God and can only be revealed by a personal relationship with Jesus through His Holy Spirit.
what do you know of Jesus?
What do you know of God's plan of salvation?
Do you avoid spiritual things out of fear of experiencing those nightmares again?
what do you know of Jesus?
What do you know of God's plan of salvation?
Do you avoid spiritual things out of fear of experiencing those nightmares again?
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Very interesting. But don't you want to know the truth? For instance, many give you a hope that as long as you do good deeds you can go to heaven and marry virgins. Sounds good huh? Sure it does.
Some say you come back as an animal of some sort. Sounds cool huh? (Sounds weird to me).
But I say, if one dies and does not repent of sin, they will go to hell where they are tortured day and night forever and ever.
Well, the first two don't sound that bad, and many people would RATHER believe them, because they sound okay. I had a hard time with the 3rd one myself, until the Lord revealed to me the reality of it.
Some times the truth doesn't sound good, in fact, the truth sounds crazy to those who would rather believe a lie to suit their own feelings.
And unfortunately, many Christians have done this with MUCH of the truth.
By the way, I did not learn one thing I know about Jesus from any man. UH OH...
What do you rest your faith on? JESUS as LORD and Savior or do you just think fear tactics and reward tactics are needed to draw people to GOD?
God saves by touching the lives of each of His children, He is not an impersonal concept and fear will not win people to Him and neither will love as the world loves which is based upon conditions, fear and control but only as God loves will do. God loves so much He is willing to give up all power and submit as a humble servant the tortures of this world to save the hearts and souls of the lost who would rather cruxify Him even as He blesses them because they will not awaken from the lies and illusions and demonic voices that tell them they DESERVE power and to be made the most high. that they should be allowed to make their own gods and idols and that God is either nonexistant, too distant to care, too loving to punish or too hard to believe in.
God saves. I have learned through prayer and study that it is not our job to convince her of the existence of God but to make sure she knows the truth of the Gospel and entrust that God can work in her life as He has worked in ours to draw her back from darkness and back into the light. It is His will not ours that will be done, but I pray when Jesus touches her life she comes back and tells us her testimony.
the is no reason to fear the spirit realm if you are a child of God and no matter how much intelligence is used in our words no one but GOD can convict and save a person by giving them a new heart that can feel His sorrow at the sinfulness of the world and His grace through His Spirit His abounding, peaceful and resounding love of humanity and how this world is under a grace period even now. For if justice was done this world would already be destroyed.
have to go finish hurricane prepping...sides, i feel like i'm babbling to myself...
love you bro. lol not getting through this post very fast....
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yes her boss is her flesh. most people are not demon possessed and are just humans who like to be in control instead of acknowledging the truth that God is in control and His ways are better then ours and submitting to His lordship.
it is like why do we have laws and police and stuff? God gives us laws and angels and stuff to make the world run as it suppose to but there will always people who want to seek if breaking the laws set in place for the safety of all is "fun"
for example what if we had no traffic laws what would happen?
parallel moral law: don't covet your neighbor's goods?
lol ok i'll stop ranting now.
it is like why do we have laws and police and stuff? God gives us laws and angels and stuff to make the world run as it suppose to but there will always people who want to seek if breaking the laws set in place for the safety of all is "fun"
for example what if we had no traffic laws what would happen?
parallel moral law: don't covet your neighbor's goods?
lol ok i'll stop ranting now.
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because they don't worship Satan, he's just their role model....
at least that is what the Wiccans and Satanist who I've spoken have said so far. they worship themselves and try to life the best life this world has to offer because they do not believe in life after this one and they believe this life is all there is.
Isaiah 14:11-15
New King James Version (NKJV)
11 Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
And the sound of your stringed instruments;
The maggot is spread under you,
And worms cover you.’
The Fall of Lucifer
12 “ How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer,[a] son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘ I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.
Isaiah 28:21-35
New King James Version (NKJV)
21 For the LORD will rise up as at Mount Perazim,
He will be angry as in the Valley of Gibeon—
That He may do His work, His awesome work,
And bring to pass His act, His unusual act.
22 Now therefore, do not be mockers,
Lest your bonds be made strong;
For I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts,
A destruction determined even upon the whole earth.
Listen to the Teaching of God
23 Give ear and hear my voice,
Listen and hear my speech.
24 Does the plowman keep plowing all day to sow?
Does he keep turning his soil and breaking the clods?
25 When he has leveled its surface,
Does he not sow the black cummin
And scatter the cummin,
Plant the wheat in rows,
The barley in the appointed place,
And the spelt in its place?
26 For He instructs him in right judgment,
His God teaches him.
27 For the black cummin is not threshed with a threshing sledge,
Nor is a cartwheel rolled over the cummin;
But the black cummin is beaten out with a stick,
And the cummin with a rod.
28 Bread flour must be ground;
Therefore he does not thresh it forever,
Break it with his cartwheel,
Or crush it with his horsemen.
29 This also comes from the LORD of hosts,
Whois wonderful in counsel and excellent in guidance.
at least that is what the Wiccans and Satanist who I've spoken have said so far. they worship themselves and try to life the best life this world has to offer because they do not believe in life after this one and they believe this life is all there is.
Isaiah 14:11-15
New King James Version (NKJV)
11 Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
And the sound of your stringed instruments;
The maggot is spread under you,
And worms cover you.’
The Fall of Lucifer
12 “ How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer,[a] son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘ I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.
Isaiah 28:21-35
New King James Version (NKJV)
21 For the LORD will rise up as at Mount Perazim,
He will be angry as in the Valley of Gibeon—
That He may do His work, His awesome work,
And bring to pass His act, His unusual act.
22 Now therefore, do not be mockers,
Lest your bonds be made strong;
For I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts,
A destruction determined even upon the whole earth.
Listen to the Teaching of God
23 Give ear and hear my voice,
Listen and hear my speech.
24 Does the plowman keep plowing all day to sow?
Does he keep turning his soil and breaking the clods?
25 When he has leveled its surface,
Does he not sow the black cummin
And scatter the cummin,
Plant the wheat in rows,
The barley in the appointed place,
And the spelt in its place?
26 For He instructs him in right judgment,
His God teaches him.
27 For the black cummin is not threshed with a threshing sledge,
Nor is a cartwheel rolled over the cummin;
But the black cummin is beaten out with a stick,
And the cummin with a rod.
28 Bread flour must be ground;
Therefore he does not thresh it forever,
Break it with his cartwheel,
Or crush it with his horsemen.
29 This also comes from the LORD of hosts,
Whois wonderful in counsel and excellent in guidance.
WOW it's amazing how ones words get twisted through interpretation
NO wonder the Christian faith has had as many divisions in itself as it has had in 2000 years
MORE posts on this thread only serves to prolong it I for one will visit it for posting purposes no more!
POSTS with thread titles like this one sensationalize our minds and generally invoke heated debate that would seem to go no where
NO wonder the Christian faith has had as many divisions in itself as it has had in 2000 years
MORE posts on this thread only serves to prolong it I for one will visit it for posting purposes no more!
POSTS with thread titles like this one sensationalize our minds and generally invoke heated debate that would seem to go no where
Hey there Skymetal! Your the closest person to my age that has acknowledged my post thus far! Would love to talk and get to know someone on here that is my age, so feel free to message me if you want to be friends
Don't confuse Wicca with Satanism. They are VERY different. Of course, to christians, they are exactly the same. And EVERY religion is exactly the same if it's not Christianity, because if it's not Christian, it is surely inspired by Satan and leads to damnation.
That being said...Wicca and Satanism couldnt be more unlike eachother. As far as I know, Wicca deals with lighting canldles and spells that they actually think work and believe it or not, I've actually ran into "Christian Witches" whatever that is....maybe some sort of strange combination of the two?
Satanism has it's name for a few reasons. It is a relgion that in a big way is the opposite of christianity. So, having a name like "Satan" is an obvious choice.
It's also a "scary" name...in this way it serves to lose the baggage of people that are not ready for it's message. In other words, there are a lot of christians and other religions of people that would never open a Satanic book for fear of it and they will surely go to hell if they so much as touch it.l It's hard to believe, but there are still a TON of superstitious people like this.
Lastly, "Satan" serves as a great metaphor for the first rebel. The adversary. The opposer. It's a bit of a liberating title as we see Satan as a fictional character that stood up to the authority. Decided that the laws needed to be changed, and fought for freedom and not oppression. The Old Testament God is a very jealous and spiteful and sadistic and misogynistic God. It's not a very desirable character. Certainly not what you would expect of a "higher" sort of being. An all powerful all knowledgable God that would actually waste his time dealing with human affairs? That actually could care less about what we simple minded humans do? That's not healthy to me.
Satan represents revolution. Think of it as the "Antichrist" figure in Revelations, only in the Satanists mind, this is the hero. The good guy.
Read through these pages and you may learn more or just ask me!
AnandaHya----What do you do when the police state is corrupt and evil? You need a revolutionary. Someone to fight for your rights and take care of the problems. This is the character of Satan to us. He represents the one that goes against the corrupt system for something better.
In a sense, Jesus was a rebel. People don't want to admit that. But yes, he was a rebel who went against the system and the system said he was a criminal and he was prosecuted with the death sentence.
I'm on Jesus's side, as I believe we have a right of freedom of speech. Satan has this in common with Jesus in a weird twisted way.
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Satan and Jesus do not have anything in common because your outlook and view of GOD is not who God really is.
who you describe with these words "The Old Testament God is a very jealous and spiteful and sadistic and misogynistic God. It's not a very desirable character. Certainly not what you would expect of a "higher" sort of being. An all powerful all knowledgable God that would actually waste his time dealing with human affairs? That actually could care less about what we simple minded humans do?" IS Satan.
NOT God. Satan likes to claim being god. he is referred to as god of this world and does not care for people.
What do you do when the police state is corrupt and evil?
Personally I would follow Jesus' example and do whatever God tells me to.
You have a twisted view of who God really is.
So does most of the world sadly and most who call themselves Christian are not truly children of God.
My first college roommate thought she was a "Christians witch" and she had friends who were Satanist. So I know the difference between their beliefs but then that does not mean your beliefs are that much similar to theirs. I tend to take people on an individual basis.
I've read the Satanic Bible, was not impressed and prefer mine better. Satan and his demons just like to use people. they are like the old Greek and Roman gods. Do you remember the stories of Zeus and Athena, and Hera and stuff? those are what demons are like, but I doubt you've had to deal with them personally so right now you seem to just have a messed up view of who God is.
Do you know what fasting is?
most people will tell you it is not eating food. I think they are wrong for this is what the Bible says:
Isaiah 58
Fasting that Pleases God
1 “Cry aloud, spare not;
Lift up your voice like a trumpet;
Tell My people their transgression,
And the house of Jacob their sins.
2 Yet they seek Me daily,
And delight to know My ways,
As a nation that did righteousness,
And did not forsake the ordinance of their God.
They ask of Me the ordinances of justice;
They take delight in approaching God.
3 ‘ Why have we fasted,’ they say, ‘and You have not seen?
Why have we afflicted our souls, and You take no notice?’
“ In fact, in the day of your fast you find pleasure,
And exploit all your laborers.
4 Indeed you fast for strife and debate,
And to strike with the fist of wickedness.
You will not fast as you do this day,
To make your voice heard on high.
5 Is it a fast that I have chosen,
A day for a man to afflict his soul?
Is it to bow down his head like a bulrush,
And to spread out sackcloth and ashes?
Would you call this a fast,
And an acceptable day to the LORD?
6 “ Is this not the fast that I have chosen:
To loose the bonds of wickedness,
To undo the heavy burdens,
To let the oppressed go free,
And that you break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your bread with the hungry,
And that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out;
When you see the naked, that you cover him,
And not hide yourself from your own flesh?
8 Then your light shall break forth like the morning,
Your healing shall spring forth speedily,
And your righteousness shall go before you;
The glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard.
9 Then you shall call, and the LORD will answer;
You shall cry, and He will say, ‘Here I am.’
do you notice God says it is wrong to be wicked and He does not want them going around mopping and telling themselves how sinful they are and not eating, etc? yet you see people claiming to be children of God doing this out of ignorance and self righteous pride.
they misrepresent God.
God tells His children to feed the poor, visit widows, free people, etc.
so you see a lot of people you meet claiming to be Christian are not.
who you describe with these words "The Old Testament God is a very jealous and spiteful and sadistic and misogynistic God. It's not a very desirable character. Certainly not what you would expect of a "higher" sort of being. An all powerful all knowledgable God that would actually waste his time dealing with human affairs? That actually could care less about what we simple minded humans do?" IS Satan.
NOT God. Satan likes to claim being god. he is referred to as god of this world and does not care for people.
What do you do when the police state is corrupt and evil?
Personally I would follow Jesus' example and do whatever God tells me to.
You have a twisted view of who God really is.
So does most of the world sadly and most who call themselves Christian are not truly children of God.
My first college roommate thought she was a "Christians witch" and she had friends who were Satanist. So I know the difference between their beliefs but then that does not mean your beliefs are that much similar to theirs. I tend to take people on an individual basis.
I've read the Satanic Bible, was not impressed and prefer mine better. Satan and his demons just like to use people. they are like the old Greek and Roman gods. Do you remember the stories of Zeus and Athena, and Hera and stuff? those are what demons are like, but I doubt you've had to deal with them personally so right now you seem to just have a messed up view of who God is.
Do you know what fasting is?
most people will tell you it is not eating food. I think they are wrong for this is what the Bible says:
Isaiah 58
Fasting that Pleases God
1 “Cry aloud, spare not;
Lift up your voice like a trumpet;
Tell My people their transgression,
And the house of Jacob their sins.
2 Yet they seek Me daily,
And delight to know My ways,
As a nation that did righteousness,
And did not forsake the ordinance of their God.
They ask of Me the ordinances of justice;
They take delight in approaching God.
3 ‘ Why have we fasted,’ they say, ‘and You have not seen?
Why have we afflicted our souls, and You take no notice?’
“ In fact, in the day of your fast you find pleasure,
And exploit all your laborers.
4 Indeed you fast for strife and debate,
And to strike with the fist of wickedness.
You will not fast as you do this day,
To make your voice heard on high.
5 Is it a fast that I have chosen,
A day for a man to afflict his soul?
Is it to bow down his head like a bulrush,
And to spread out sackcloth and ashes?
Would you call this a fast,
And an acceptable day to the LORD?
6 “ Is this not the fast that I have chosen:
To loose the bonds of wickedness,
To undo the heavy burdens,
To let the oppressed go free,
And that you break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your bread with the hungry,
And that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out;
When you see the naked, that you cover him,
And not hide yourself from your own flesh?
8 Then your light shall break forth like the morning,
Your healing shall spring forth speedily,
And your righteousness shall go before you;
The glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard.
9 Then you shall call, and the LORD will answer;
You shall cry, and He will say, ‘Here I am.’
do you notice God says it is wrong to be wicked and He does not want them going around mopping and telling themselves how sinful they are and not eating, etc? yet you see people claiming to be children of God doing this out of ignorance and self righteous pride.
they misrepresent God.
God tells His children to feed the poor, visit widows, free people, etc.
so you see a lot of people you meet claiming to be Christian are not.
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hey Michelle if you get a chance listen and read the Bible verses in this video....
God's love letter - YouTube
God's love letter - YouTube
Michelle change please.. change please..CHANGE PLEASE.. GOD loves you... PLZ PLZ PLZ..
We want you in our community of CHRISTIANS..
Don't expect too much when you join though.. You might be disappointed
We want you in our community of CHRISTIANS..
Don't expect too much when you join though.. You might be disappointed
and I promise to everyone on this forum that I will make an effort to watch EVERY vid that you guys send me. This isnt the first request to watch/listen to something that I've recieved. Sometimes I get a little busy, but I WILL give it all a chance!!
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I thought this was a prayer request forum, yet all I've seen in this thread is debate.
Why not start this thread in another part of the site?
Why not start this thread in another part of the site?
truthfully I believe this thread was caused for contentious reasons in the Bible discussion forum.
I respond because I don't like people saying lies about God and telling everyone how unjust and cruel He is according to their misunderstanding of the Bible.
The inventors of The Bible had an obvious shift in direction when compareing The Old Testament with The New Testament. These are 2 VERY different personalities. And that really can't be argued. To be fair though, just because there might be a different image being presented of God, that doesnt mean The Bible is necessarily fiction. Of course I think it is, but my reasoning and evidence goes well beyong just a slight difference in personality. So no one should get mad or try to argue that it's the same type of God in both books. God obviously matured from the first edition to the second.
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that is so false. God does not change and did not "mature" from OT and NT.
People just lie and misunderstand God then and even now.
it is not God who changed but PEOPLE.
quote me some scripture and we can discuss your thoughts that OT God is different from NT God.
did you read Isaiah 58 quote I posted?
IT shows God still hated injustice even in the OT and there is no difference between NT and OT God. You have probably meet some New Age lovely dovey so-called Christians.
People just lie and misunderstand God then and even now.
it is not God who changed but PEOPLE.
quote me some scripture and we can discuss your thoughts that OT God is different from NT God.
did you read Isaiah 58 quote I posted?
IT shows God still hated injustice even in the OT and there is no difference between NT and OT God. You have probably meet some New Age lovely dovey so-called Christians.
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