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This comparison doesn't fit. We couldn't possibly put ourselves in hell unless god first created it and then made the criteria for which souls are judged that condemns every single one of us there. Hell is not this world but the imaginations of men's minds that causes them to sin will lead them to hell or eternal separation from GOD.
That and you don't deny that we were born into this 'closet' as we were born into our condemnation to hell, what choice did we have other than to already be stuck there? nope mankind were made to be caretakers of the earth, but Adam and Eve sinned and that is why the world is in a massive delusion of lies and sin.
From the earliest moment we can remember we've been condemned to hell/stuck in the closet. NOPE babies are normally pretty happy, my kids are not so troubled and have most of their needs taken care of. they do not worry like teenagers do. it come with the hormones and ability to procreate I guess
Then there's the matter that if god simply truly showed himself or proved his existence, no one would attack him, but the way he's "trying to let us out of the closet" is in a way where no one can be sure if he actually exists. no people just have their hands on their eyes and asking God why they can't see
Then there's also the fact that if we stay in the closet because we don't think there's a way out, he'll instead of pulling us out of the closet, note: most kids would begin yelling if yanked out of a closet. you could experiment but that would be kind of mean
show himself to us, and then lock us in the closet forever and ever so we can't possibly ever get out, and he'll also make the closet a place of torture where there is unbearable agony. not the same closet, on is made by man's mind, one is a physical and mental torment
He won't let you out even after billions of years after he's locked you there forever. because you will refuse to repent of your sin and doubt
And beyond that, if I saw a child in a dangerous and harmful situation, I'm going to pull them out of it and make sure they're alright, even if they fight me over it. They're a child, as adults it's our responsibility to protect them, shouldn't god be doing the same? He does but if the kid runs away from home when they become "grown" what would you suggest the parent do?
All these comparisons about us choosing to go to hell don't work... No one chooses hell, they just don't believe it exists, and god isn't proving that it exists either, nor when we die is he offering us a choice personally, we're just condemned no matter what... I've explained my problems with the concept of hell as described, and why I cannot believe in it, that's my stance. the choice is not going to hell or not. it is believing a lie or searching for the truth.
That's why I see annihilation as more consistent with the idea of a loving god, don't you think annihilation makes more sense?
That and you don't deny that we were born into this 'closet' as we were born into our condemnation to hell, what choice did we have other than to already be stuck there? nope mankind were made to be caretakers of the earth, but Adam and Eve sinned and that is why the world is in a massive delusion of lies and sin.
From the earliest moment we can remember we've been condemned to hell/stuck in the closet. NOPE babies are normally pretty happy, my kids are not so troubled and have most of their needs taken care of. they do not worry like teenagers do. it come with the hormones and ability to procreate I guess
Then there's the matter that if god simply truly showed himself or proved his existence, no one would attack him, but the way he's "trying to let us out of the closet" is in a way where no one can be sure if he actually exists. no people just have their hands on their eyes and asking God why they can't see
Then there's also the fact that if we stay in the closet because we don't think there's a way out, he'll instead of pulling us out of the closet, note: most kids would begin yelling if yanked out of a closet. you could experiment but that would be kind of mean
show himself to us, and then lock us in the closet forever and ever so we can't possibly ever get out, and he'll also make the closet a place of torture where there is unbearable agony. not the same closet, on is made by man's mind, one is a physical and mental torment
He won't let you out even after billions of years after he's locked you there forever. because you will refuse to repent of your sin and doubt
And beyond that, if I saw a child in a dangerous and harmful situation, I'm going to pull them out of it and make sure they're alright, even if they fight me over it. They're a child, as adults it's our responsibility to protect them, shouldn't god be doing the same? He does but if the kid runs away from home when they become "grown" what would you suggest the parent do?
All these comparisons about us choosing to go to hell don't work... No one chooses hell, they just don't believe it exists, and god isn't proving that it exists either, nor when we die is he offering us a choice personally, we're just condemned no matter what... I've explained my problems with the concept of hell as described, and why I cannot believe in it, that's my stance. the choice is not going to hell or not. it is believing a lie or searching for the truth.
That's why I see annihilation as more consistent with the idea of a loving god, don't you think annihilation makes more sense?
sorry it took me so long to respond. didn't see this thread.