Let me repeat Skinski
When I followed your teaching in my youth I was consumed by sin, I was completely its slave, once I followed the biblical teaching of Grace, sin lessened in my life from where I was under your kind of teaching. So I know which teaching produces the holier life
But note, I am far from perfect, I have many faults, for I do not claim, 24/7 365 days a year to perfectly follow after the Holy Spirit, and when we lapse and do not follow after the Spirit we sin. That includes you as well as me
If you believe you live a holier life than me, and you sin less than me, please be specific as to the sins you believe I commit that you do not commit, asd what you do that means you live a holier life than me
Thanks.
If you cannot be specific you do not know which one of us sins the most(or least) unless you claim to have the gift of discernment and see each time I commit sin in my daily life
Of course if you did have that gift, you could plainly tell me specifically where I am commiting more sin in my flesh than you are in yours
When I followed your teaching in my youth I was consumed by sin, I was completely its slave, once I followed the biblical teaching of Grace, sin lessened in my life from where I was under your kind of teaching. So I know which teaching produces the holier life
But note, I am far from perfect, I have many faults, for I do not claim, 24/7 365 days a year to perfectly follow after the Holy Spirit, and when we lapse and do not follow after the Spirit we sin. That includes you as well as me
If you believe you live a holier life than me, and you sin less than me, please be specific as to the sins you believe I commit that you do not commit, asd what you do that means you live a holier life than me
Thanks.
If you cannot be specific you do not know which one of us sins the most(or least) unless you claim to have the gift of discernment and see each time I commit sin in my daily life
Of course if you did have that gift, you could plainly tell me specifically where I am commiting more sin in my flesh than you are in yours
Anyone who yields to sin is its slave. That is what both Jesus (Joh 8:34) and Paul (Rom 6:16) clearly stated. Jesus and Paul taught that one can be set free from this slavery by Jesus Christ (Joh 8:36, Rom 6:6).
I am not talking about "perfection" here. That is something that you keep bringing up. I am talking about a heart issue here. If you are speaking of perfection in the sense of never making a mistake in the sense of doing something unintentionally due to a lacking wisdom or understanding, I agree we are not perfect.
I am very specifically talking about the known sins of the flesh.
Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings.
All those things are the works of the flesh and when one walks after the Spirit all those things have ceased. The Bible clearly teaches it...
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Paul is telling the Galatians what they need to do.
Paul taught this...
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
There is no mixing of the too. You don't walk in the Spirit and then occasionally keep lapsing back into the flesh and then go back to the Spirit then "oops" back into the flesh. No! There is something wrong with that picture. The Bible doesn't present a third option of doing both, we either walk after the Spirit or we walk after the flesh.
We have either escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust or we have not escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. We are either a slave to sin or we are a slave to righteousness. You cannot be both. Those who persist in a state where they "think" they are both are actually double-minded and WHOLLY DEFILED.
There is no salvation whilst in sin. Salvation is literally being set free from sin as well as being set free from the condemnation wrought by past rebellion.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say "mostly set free" or "gradually set free." No you are either free or you are not. You have either been saved or you have not.
Now many people believe in this forensic salvation plan and thus have a FALSE ASSURANCE that they are saved when in reality they are still in bondage to sin and are thus the children of wrath.
Satan is a master theologian who has been able to perpetuate a system of error which supports this false assurance. The Bible is full of warnings about error and the wolves who preach it. These wolves are so deceptive because they appear as sheep and it takes a lot of discernment to identify them.