Hi Popeye: Solid principle perverted use. God does save his people from His wrath, but he allows His people to go through tribulation. Paul said that we are appointed to suffer tribulation..but not the wrath of God. Lot was removed before the wrath of God but before that he suffered tribulation. Noah was saved and did not experience God's wrath, but he did have to endure tribulation. The church is removed before the wrath of God but not before the tribulation. First tribulation and then rapture, the tribulation that Jesus described and that He said the church must go through is clearly NOT the wrath of God, Jesus described it as a time of great persecution against those who believe in Him. I realize that the pre-trib folks will never admit that the tribulation is not the wrath of God because by so doing they would eliminate the pre-trib teaching.