JESUS CHRIST VS PROPHET MOHAMMAD

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ThewindBlows

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Here is the reality. Mohammed came from a Bedouin Tribe. This tribe worshiped at least 300 "godz". They all had names. One was named ALLAH. When this tribe chose Mohammad to be their prophet, (they decided this)..they also decided to choose out of the 300+, ONE God, ....and they chose Allah. That is his name, not his title. This "god", represents the MOON.....Allah, is their "moon god".....And you see this on Islamic flags. You see the crescent MOON and stars....as this is their GOD...........the "moon god", and they named him "allah".....That is his Name......Its not generic for "god"....>It is in fact, HIS name. They gave it to him.

So that is the reality.-
 

GospelMercy

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A Muslim friend of mine says to me that the only book that was preserved over the years is the Quran and that all the other Holy Scriptures were adulterated stating that scholars support this and that many Muslim leaders fought to preserve the Quran . He thinks even the Torah was adulterated , the old and new testaments also .....so tell me what material do i have to show him Jesus
The problem with this classical muslim "jews and christians have corrupted the Scriptures" argument is that it is just a baseless claim. They cannot prove this.
1) How can Christians corrupt the New Testament manuscripts before the birth of Mohammed? There existed hundreds and hundreds of manuscripts scattered throughout Asia and Europe. Let's say someone or a group of Christians wanted to corrupt the New Testament. How could they have access to all the manuscripts to change them? Even if they could corrupt a few manuscripts, you would still have hndreds of them to cross check. For the Old Testament, the Qumram caves copy of the complete scroll of the prophet Isaiah (among others) show the baseless claims that the Old Testament is corrupted and cannot be trusted.
2) But for the sake of argument, let's accept this Quranic claim and accusation. The question then follows, OK, who corrupted it? When did this corruption take place? Where did this corruption take place? Where are the supposed corrupted verses? Where are the supposed uncorrupted verses? If you claim our copies are corrupted, show us the uncorrupted copy.

Muslims claim they believe in the Torah, the prophets, the Psalms and the Gospels. If that is so, why does their Holy Book not contain the Old and New Testaments? The "Jewish" Bible does not contain the New Testament, because they do not belive in it. Logical. The "Christian" Bible contains the Old and New testaments, because Christians believe in both. Logical. Muslims say they believe in the Old, the New and the Quran, but their holy book only contains the Quran. Illogical.
 
A Prophet is a messenger of God... No Christian should Ever call muhammad a prophet.. Simply calling him a Prophet is public acknowledgement that He is a Prophet..

I hope you never again refer to muhammad as a Prophet...
Because the muslims regard him as one Iam jus telling you that muslim regard Muhammad as prophet not I
 

tanakh

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The Koran is not the only source from which Islam gets its belief system. The other source is the Hadith which contains sayings of Mohammed and his successors its a sort of interpretation of the Koran similar to the Talmud of Judaism. During Mohammed's lifetime there were a number of Christian and Gnostic sects in the middle east as well as Jews and Byzantine Christians. The apocryphal Christian and Gnostic writings influenced the content of the Koran. An example is the Korans version of Jesus' birth and Childhood
The Hadith and various other writings together coupled with various Pagan myths resulted in a perverted version of the Bible which
is what Muslims follow today.
 

tanakh

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The Islam system comes from the old testerment of the bible. Look at their quran is the same as he bible in the old testerment.
I suggest you make a careful comparison with the OT and the Koran. You will find that some of the main stories in the OT which
foreshadow Christ have been changed in the Koran. An example is that of Abraham and Isaac. In the Koran it is not Issac but Ishmael
that is taken to the mountain for sacrifice. In fact many of the stories in the OT have been changed or details have been altered. Seeing that the OT was written hundreds of years before the Koran was written, faith and common sense tells us that the Koran cannot be
genuine. The Koran is a counterfeit Bible. Anyone with any knowledge of both books would see that, just as any expert on Bank notes would know whether one was genuine or not.
 
I suggest you make a careful comparison with the OT and the Koran. You will find that some of the main stories in the OT which
foreshadow Christ have been changed in the Koran. An example is that of Abraham and Isaac. In the Koran it is not Issac but Ishmael
that is taken to the mountain for sacrifice. In fact many of the stories in the OT have been changed or details have been altered. Seeing that the OT was written hundreds of years before the Koran was written, faith and common sense tells us that the Koran cannot be
genuine. The Koran is a counterfeit Bible. Anyone with any knowledge of both books would see that, just as any expert on Bank notes would know whether one was genuine or not.
Yes only the name is different but the story is the same.:)
 

tanakh

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Yes only the name is different but the story is the same.:)
I suggest you speak to a Bible believing Christian and really try to understand the basics of the Christian faith. Failing that
get yourself a book that explains it. There are hundreds in print.
 
I suggest you speak to a Bible believing Christian and really try to understand the basics of the Christian faith. Failing that
get yourself a book that explains it. There are hundreds in print.
Have you rad the quan before or have you discussed this with a muslims on this subject before?
 
In most eastern countries, where Christianity is a minority among its citizens, you need to be tactful when professing your faith. you must be very sensitive and use diplomatic approach in sharing your faith. Your approach should be firstly, explain to them why their so called 'god' is not true god. secondly, show them your living example as Jesus taught us to live, and they will become curious why you are different and eventually became interested to know about your living. That's how most people believed in Christ in all eastern countries.

You can't say to them you must believed in Christ, if not you will go to hell. If his is the case, then you can expect two types of reply ie being chased out of people homes if you go house to house preaching the gospel, or secondly they will said their god is the truth and asked you to believe their god instead. Every religion that I know of claimed that their 'god' gives you eternal life, the challenge is how to convinced non-christians that their god is false and only Christ is the true and living God? In the end there is a chance that you are being converted instead of other party if your faith is not firmly grounded in Christ.

I understand the mind set of you all. You don't face opposition or persecution at all. You don't need to fight to defend Christ. Your family won't disown you or you are an outcast in society when you believed in Christ. These are the least expectations when you became a Christian in a non-Christian world.
 
Here in Malaysia, our Christian leaders do have periodic dialog with scholars from other faith like muslms, buddha, hindus, kuan yn etc...From these dialogs, we gather that these non-christians 'god' also preach love thy neighbor as yourself, true light, perform signs and wonders etc... The only difference was their 'prophets' are all already six foot under the ground whereas we (Christians) believed that Christ is alive forever.
 

Mission21

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Good point / post.. #113
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Many Christians are not aware of ( concerned )..
- what is going on .. ' in Restricted Countries.'
 

Nehemiah6

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The Islam system comes from the old testerment of the bible. Look at their quran is the same as he bible in the old testerment.
It is a perversion of the OT. Abraham did not go to Mecca with Ishmael to erect the Ka'aba. And the Ka'aba itself is idolatrous.
 
I wonder how many of you have read the quran and understand what it mean to the extend of able to foam a truthful and unbias opinion. The quran that i know of is written in jawi (another kind of writtings like english, greek, hebrew etc....), only those who have learned it could do so.
Or in actual fact, you just have listen from somewhere?
Pardon me, I have not heard of what you claimed t be about islam religion. what i know is contrary to what you said. For an example, islam is cruel. On the contrary, islam profess love thy neighbour as yourself just like Christians do. It is only the followers that is the problem ie the lunatics.
 

massorite

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I am incline to start another post explaining between prophet Mohammad and Jesus Christ which I believe a lot of you especially the westerners have misunderstood or mis-statement, probably blinded by the works of Satan.

Firstly, the prophet Mohammad that I came to know about was a messenger of God. He was NOT God. Kindly take note that there is a difference between a messenger and God himself.

Secondly, according to what I've learned and validated with my muslim friends, prophet Muhammad was NOT a murderer as claimed by some westerners. Actually, he was only a pedophilia, not terrorist or extremist. He married Aishah as his third and youngest wives when Aishah was six year old and had sex with her.Today, the muslims rape their daughters, nieces, sisters, girls at young age hoping that this act could purify them. This is absurd but its their belief, why judge them. I am very confident that God will not overlook this sin and will bring justice when time comes.

Just like in Christianity, there is protestant and catholic. Likewise, the muslim have sunni, (moderate ones) and shiite, (radical ones). In my country Malaysia, the government of the day are predominantly sunni muslims, followed by Buddist, Hinduism and Christianity while the shiite muslim together with other Buddist and Hinduism became the opposition. The sunni muslims are the ones that I am talking about being peaceful and loving. Just like protestants and catholics were called Christians so did the sunni and shiite, both are called muslims.

Here again, I wish to reiterate my earlier comment that the IS and all known terrorst, extremist that carried out merciless attack on Christians as well as muslims soil are individual muslims who have their own agenda. In order to get support for their agenda, they deceived their other muslims brotherhood with assurance that what they are doing is justice and holy. The muslim girls and women became their sexual partner beside those women captured by them. Couple of months ago, our newspaper carried a report on few muslim womens declaring that they would be willing to give their body to the muslims brotherhood in IS to satisfy their sexual urge. These women were immediately arrested by the police and charged in civil court for prostituting, which is illegal here as per civil law. My guess is that in order for them to escape being jailed, they will declare that they are muslims and therefore not under civil but syariah court, which enforce muslim laws.

Some of the chatters here in Christian Chat, commented and claimed that I am not a Christian and rather a muslim because of my defense on muslims. They tested me to see whether Iam what I said Iam. Some even ask me to proof to them. I am not going to do that and might start an argument with you later on. Not that Iam afraid but because it is against the rules and regulations in this chat which I respect whole heartedly.

Before I conclude, I wish to inform some of you here that by the way you response to thread, your words do reflect on you. Make sure you do these daily;
1) read at least 1 chapter of the bible.
2) pray.
3) memorize at least 1 important bible verse that will remind you instantly when you need to make a decision.


ALSO;
4) Join a church and go to sunday service weekly.
5) Join bible study weekly once.
6) Join cell group weekly.
God can assure if you do these you will see a different life. God Bless.
You don't know anything about the truth about Muhammad. Who he was, what he was or the destruction he caused.
Quran 9:5 is the major sword-verse cited: “When the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush.”
Muhammad gave these orders as well as commanded his followers the cut off heads and cut off finger tips

Quran 8:12 – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
Muslims are not allowed to be friends with anybody who is an infidle and everybody who does not believe as a Muslim is an infidel.
Pickthall: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
Here is what Muslims are taught about being friends with infidels.
A Muslim is forbidden to make friends with a non-Muslim. A Muslim is allowed to pretend to be a friend, but in his heart he must never actually be a friend to a non-Muslim. This is one of the best protections Islam has against Muslims leaving the faith because conversions a new religion are usually made because a friend introduced it. Being forbidden to make friends with non-Muslims helps prevent that from happening.
Looks like they got you totally manipulated. So much for true Muslims friends.
 

massorite

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I wonder how many of you have read the quran and understand what it mean to the extend of able to foam a truthful and unbias opinion. The quran that i know of is written in jawi (another kind of writtings like english, greek, hebrew etc....), only those who have learned it could do so.
Or in actual fact, you just have listen from somewhere?
Pardon me, I have not heard of what you claimed t be about islam religion. what i know is contrary to what you said. For an example, islam is cruel. On the contrary, islam profess love thy neighbour as yourself just like Christians do. It is only the followers that is the problem ie the lunatics.
Actually the oldest Qurans in the world are written in what is called the Kufic Script and no Quran is older then about 1000 years old.
 
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I wonder how many of you have read the quran and understand what it mean to the extend of able to foam a truthful and unbias opinion. The quran that i know of is written in jawi (another kind of writtings like english, greek, hebrew etc....), only those who have learned it could do so.
Or in actual fact, you just have listen from somewhere?
Pardon me, I have not heard of what you claimed t be about islam religion. what i know is contrary to what you said. For an example, islam is cruel. On the contrary, islam profess love thy neighbour as yourself just like Christians do. It is only the followers that is the problem ie the lunatics.
The followers are simply following the religious written word. All religions have some sort of written law . The Quran is not the same book as the Christian bible. They have different authors.

For one thing the Quran offers no instruction for rightly dividing in order to seek the approval of the author .

The Quran is simply the oral tradition of men as a law of men. Just as in Catholicism or other religious disciplines .They have another book of the law other that the Bible God word... .In that way as a lie coming from the god of this world they lay claim to two divine sources as one and make the understanding from the scriptures of Christ without effect. No man can serve two teaching masters . (1) the Quran and the (2)Bible (sola scriptura)

I will offer an example of the law of the Catholic father .Used just like a law of the author of sinful men who wrote the Quran , Same law different fathers. Therefore again making one of the teaching Masters without effect.

The Catholic Devine book of their law "their Quran". or tool for making the word of God without effect. ). #80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."

A repeat of the fall. Obey to the voice that has flesh and blood attached to it make it a Devine authority ."Did God say ?"

Believers walk by faith as it is written by the finger of God .

The last new prophet of God was John. He moved by God not seen left a warning to anyone that has a desire to more that than His has given us (Genesis through Revelation) That he will send a strong delusion to those who do add or subtract and destroy the integrity of the one author (Christ) and finisher of Christian faith

No man can serve two written authorities as teaching laws. Every religion has a written book as a law .

The question is which master will you serve today? The Bible as the word of God ? Or the Quran and words of men called fathers ? Witness of men or God's two witnesses, the law and the prophets ?