Questions about Adam and Eve

[Cameron143]

I believe that the object of faith in all true religions, not just Islam, is the belief in the oneness of God and living a life in accordance with His commands and prohibitions which is essential for attaining the pleasure of God and achieving success in this world and the hereafter. Then we will find that each religion has its own more details and rules, for example, in Islam, there are six pillars of faith..etc

In Islam, do you recognize sin? If so, what is the basis for the forgiveness of sin?

 

[Bataal]

Christianity is primarily about believing on Christ Jesus for salvation. Essentially, God became a man, was born as a descendant of Eve - seed of the woman and our kinsman-redeemer - lived a perfect life, was crucified on a cross for our sins, died and was buried in a tomb, and on the third day rose again, for the forgiveness of all who believe on Him.

Unfortunately, not all Christians believe the bible.

I think beliefs can be categorised into three groups:
1) The Genesis story didn't actually happen, and was just some sort of parable or allegory.
2) The Genesis story did happen, but not exactly as described - e.g. there were also other human beings created by God, and some of us are descended from these.
3) The Genesis story happened as the bible describes.

Only 3 is logically consistent with the bible and the rest of the gospel message,

Thank you so much.. You’ve made me curious about the Genesis story, so I searched for it, and I found many interesting things that are quite similar to what exists in Islam (quoted below). I was reading and thought I might be getting information from Islam rather than Christianity .

The Fall (Genesis 3)

• Adam and Eve eat from the Tree of Knowledge after being tempted by a serpent. This act of disobedience brings sin into the world, resulting in their expulsion from Eden.

Cain and Abel (Genesis 4)

• Adam and Eve's sons, Cain and Abel, offer sacrifices to God. Cain, feeling rejected, becomes jealous and kills Abel. As punishment, Cain is cursed and becomes a wanderer.

The Flood (Genesis 6-9)

• Humanity becomes wicked, and God decides to flood the earth to cleanse it. He instructs Noah to build an ark to save his family and pairs of each animal. After the flood, God promises never to destroy the earth again and sets a rainbow as a sign of this covenant.

but despite this, some Christians insist on believing 1 or 2.

That kind of people who hold beliefs based on such points 1 and 2 can be found in every religion.

Similar to the above, not all Christians believe the same.
Some believe:
1) The Genesis story didn't actually happen, and there was no paradise.
2) There was a type of paradise, but still with death and suffering - again not exactly as the bible describes.
3) The garden of Eden where Adam and Eve were was exactly as the Genesis account describes - paradise.
Again, only 3 is consistent with the biblical record.

I'm really sorry for anyone here who believe on No 2, but it makes me laugh and can’t stop myself from laughing.

But I have a question please.
You mentioned three points (1, 2, 3), who believes on the No 3 ? Protestants, Catholics, or both?

 

[Bataal]

In Islam, do you recognize sin? If so, what is the basis for the forgiveness of sin?

Everyone has sins. No one is perfect. Only God is perfect .

In Islam, I think when a person sins, he/she simply repent and engage in supplication, asking for forgiveness regardless of how great the sin.

It is important to stop the sin immediately. If the sin is against God, it should be abandoned. If it is against another person, then be absolved from the sinner by either returning what was taken to him/her, or asking him/her for forgiveness.

For repentance to be accepted by God, certain conditions must be met:
- The person must genuinely feel remorse for their sin.
- Abandoning the Sin.
- A firm intention not to commit the sin again in the future.

 

[Cameron143]

Everyone has sins. No one is perfect. Only God is perfect .

In Islam, I think when a person sins, he/she simply repent and engage in supplication, asking for forgiveness regardless of how great the sin.

It is important to stop the sin immediately. If the sin is against God, it should be abandoned. If it is against another person, then be absolved from the sinner by either returning what was taken to him/her, or asking him/her for forgiveness.

For repentance to be accepted by God, certain conditions must be met:
- The person must genuinely feel remorse for their sin.
- Abandoning the Sin.
- A firm intention not to commit the sin again in the future.

This is a major difference between Christianity and other religions. In Christianity, the basis for the forgiveness of sin is not contrition, but the reality that that sins are paid for. While the things you mention do attend a time of confession for a Christian, they are not the cause of forgiveness.

 

[Bataal]

This is a major difference between Christianity and other religions. In Christianity, the basis for the forgiveness of sin is not contrition, but the reality that that sins are paid for.

If you commit a sins, what do you do? Do you do nothing? just because the sins are forgiven / paid for?
What if you commit sins again? Do you do nothing?

While the things you mention do attend a time of confession for a Christian, they are not the cause of forgiveness.

What does "a time of confession for a Christian" mean?
I searched for its meaning and found the following : The "confession time" for a Christian typically refers to a period when individuals acknowledge their sins and seek forgiveness from God.
Is that the correct meaning? Please explain if it is not.

 

[Cameron143]

If you commit a sins, what do you do? Do you do nothing? just because the sins are forgiven / paid for?
What if you commit sins again? Do you do nothing?




What does "a time of confession for a Christian" mean?
I searched for its meaning and found the following : The "confession time" for a Christian typically refers to a period when individuals acknowledge their sins and seek forgiveness from God.
Is that the correct meaning? Please explain if it is not.

A Christian should daily confess his or her sins before the Lord, at a minimum. This is taught in the Lord's prayer in Matthew 6. Keeping short accounts with God tends to keep one both humble and dependent. But the reason God forgives sin is because it was paid for on the cross.
In Islam, why do individuals believe God forgives sin?

 

[Bataal]

A Christian should daily confess his or her sins before the Lord, at a minimum. This is taught in the Lord's prayer in Matthew 6. Keeping short accounts with God tends to keep one both humble and dependent.

Lord means God, right?
If so, that means it’s similar to what I already mentioned (to repent and supplicate to God for forgiveness).

Well my dear, you’ve raised a question in my mind about sins. Are sins in Christianity considered the same regardless of their nature? For example, are talking badly about someone, stealing, killing, or committing rape all viewed the same way? and what you need is just confess daily?

But the reason God forgives sin is because it was paid for on the cross.

Another question has arisen, if sins are paid for and forgiven, and I believe in Christ, what happens if I don’t confess? Is confession mandatory?

In Islam, why do individuals believe God forgives sin?

God says so in the Qur'an. He forgives sins when one adheres to what I have already mentioned.

 

[Cameron143]

Lord means God, right?
If so, that means it’s similar to what I already mentioned (to repent and supplicate to God for forgiveness).

Well my dear, you’ve raised a question in my mind about sins. Are sins in Christianity considered the same regardless of their nature? For example, are talking badly about someone, stealing, killing, or committing rape all viewed the same way? and what you need is just confess daily?




Another question has arisen, if sins are paid for and forgiven, and I believe in Christ, what happens if I don’t confess? Is confession mandatory?




God says so in the Qur'an. He forgives sins when one adheres to what I have already mentioned.

What I was trying to understand about Islam was whether sins were forgiven because they are paid for or because someone follows a set of prescribed rules. I also asked you about the object of faith earlier. The reason for doing this was to help you understand that the Christian faith is predicted upon the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. Our faith is in Him and what He has done on our behalf to reconcile us to God.
So far as I can tell about Islam is that you trust what you have done to reconcile yourself to God.

 

[Gideon300]

Is it true?
What do you think I’m looking for here in this site? I’m not trying to prove whether Christianity, Judaism, or Islam is true or false. I believe that is a personal decision and everyone should respect each individual's choice. I’m here to find answers to some very complicated questions that are fighting in my mind.


You reject Catholics as well, and will do the same for anything that isn’t Protestant
I'm sorry to say so, but that is the part of human nature

I reject anything that is contrary to the truth of God's word. I know Catholics who are fine Christians who reject the present Pope's heresy. I know Protestants who have embraced the woke progressive agenda and I reject that too. Jesus described the road to Life as narrow and that few find it. I am one of the few. That's not a boast, Lord Jesus put me on that narrow road and it His grace that keeps me there.

Jesus also said that the road to destruction is wide. I have no desire to join the multitudes on that road.

I respect the choice of individuals just as much as God does. However, I am also required by God to exhort the lost to turn from their wicked ways and accept Lord Jesus as Saviour and Lord. Choices have consequences.

I do not badger people. If they tell me to leave them alone, I will.

I was one who searched for knowledge. I was reading the encyclopaedia while my peers were reading comics. I'm not especially intelligent, just very curious. However, Once I found the Truth, Jesus, many of my questions were answered. I still like to learn new things, but does not drive me as it once did. I suggest that you keep it simple. It makes life so much easier.