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Anidod

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#41
Indeed. Something evil titled sacred?
I went looking for something to answer that new question that you brought to my mind. I found these links. There are far more of course. I used the search criterion, why was asherah called sacred bible.

These are just a few of those result sources I wanted to share with you. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...herah-and-the-asherim-goddess-or-cult-symbol/

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/asherah/

https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/asherahasherim-bible
Informative links, thank you for sharing, here's what I found in one, that I thought was good to post:

"Yet despite these and other references associating Asherah with apostasy (for example, Exod 34:13; Deut 7:5; 12:3; Judg 3:7; 1 Kgs 18:19), and despite the fact that the Israelites are explicitly forbidden in Deut 16:21 to erect one of Asherah’s sacred poles beside an altar of YHWH, there are multiple indications in biblical tradition that many in ancient Israel did regard Asherah’s cult icon as an appropriate sacred symbol within the religion of YHWH. For example, one of Asherah’s sacred poles stood next to YHWH’s altar at Bethel, one of the two great cult sites of the northern kingdom of Israel (2 Kgs 23:15). Another of Asherah’s sacred poles stood in that kingdom’s capital city, Samaria. The sacred pole of Samaria, moreover, which was erected during the reign of King Ahab (reigned 873–852 b.c.e.), was allowed to remain standing by the reformer King Jehu (1 Kgs 16:33; 2 Kgs 13:6), even though Jehu was generally at pains to remove all non-Yahwistic cults and cult imagery from the land. This fact suggests that Jehu perceived the sacred pole as appropriate in the worship of YHWH. "
 

Magenta

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#42
An Asherah pole was a sacred tree or pole that stood near Canaanite religious locations to honor the pagan goddess Asherah, also known as Astarte. While the exact appearance of an Asherah pole is somewhat obscure, it is clear that the ancient Israelites, after entering the land of Canaan, were influenced by the pagan religion it represented.

In the Bible, Asherah poles were first mentioned in Exodus 34:13. God had just remade the Ten Commandment tablets, and Moses had requested God graciously forgive the Israelites for worshiping the golden calf. Verse 10 begins the covenant God made: if the Israelites obey Him, He will drive out the tribes living in Canaan. But they must cut down the Asherah poles. Deuteronomy 7:5 and 12:3 repeat the command nearly verbatim, while Deuteronomy 16:21 commands the Israelites not set up any wooden Asherah poles of their own. Two books later, In Judges 3:7, “The sons of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgot the LORD their God and served the Baals and the Asheroth.”

Gideon became the first to fight against the infestation of Asherah poles, although, in his fear, he chopped his father’s Asherah pole down at night (Judges 6:25-27). The books of 1 & 2 Kings and 1 & 2 Chronicles tell a long story of one king chopping down Asherah poles and another building them back up. King Manasseh of Judah went so far as to install a pole in the temple of the Lord (2 Kings 21:3, 7). In the midst of a great cleansing, King Josiah took out the Asherah pole and ground it to powder, further defiling it by spreading the dust over graves (2 Kings 23:6).

Most areas in that time and place had a god and goddess designated as responsible for the well-being of crops and livestock. Likely, in the constant evolution of pagan gods and goddesses, Asherah was one of the names given for a fertility goddess in the region. Asherah’s consorts varied, depending on the cultic beliefs of the people—sometimes Asherah was said to consort with the Canaanite creator-god, El; or with the god of fertility, Ba’al; or, horrifically, with the Lord God Himself. source
 

posthuman

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#43
I admit I'm a bit confused by your confusing post. While you did quote me your observations have nothing to do with my own. Perhaps you meant this for someone else and quoted me by mistake?
Because the piercing of Christ's side and the water flowing from it goes together with the Woman named Eve 'mother of all the living' go together.

The other part of my reply was a more or less general statement not particularly in response to you I think I may have meant to quote another post with it...
 

Whispered

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#44
Because the piercing of Christ's side and the water flowing from it goes together with the Woman named Eve 'mother of all the living' go together.
That's a very unique take on the water flowing from Christ's side after the spear of destiny pierced his lungs. I've not heard nor thought of it that way before. Thank you. :)

The other part of my reply was a more or less general statement not particularly in response to you I think I may have meant to quote another post with it...
:) That's fine.
 

posthuman

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That's a very unique take on the water flowing from Christ's side after the spear of destiny pierced his lungs. I've not heard nor thought of it that way before. Thank you. :)

:) That's fine.
sorry about that, but -- so the Bride of Christ is born of water, and washed in the pure water of the word, and born of spirit, and His words are spirit. add that to the type & symbol while you think about it :)

these things go together with the temple of Ezekiel's vision, too, which has water flowing out from the most holy place, becoming deeper and deeper as it flows, giving life. :)
 

tourist

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#46
these guys are closing in on some dangerous ground when they begin to rewrite Scripture, especially Gods Word concerning creation...…….

Taking out Jesus and the Holy Spirit and inserting this other person? Please Lord, when You send down that bolt from Your Throne.......aim well!
Yeah, we don't want to end up as collateral damage.
 

Whispered

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#47
I will presume to say no one intends to disrespect scripture in the least. In fact, we're discussing what is contained within scripture.
Also, I think to be fair to one another we need to remember that there are many different versions of the Bible published today. And many different variations over the centuries.

I think the passage, test the spirits , is a great wisdom that informs us, reminds us, that we are reading God's words to us when we open the Bible that man had everything to do with compiling. For the Christian God's Holy Spirit lives within us and guides us into all His truth. I think if we begin to worship the Bible, to believe in the Bible, we will lose sight of the Father who pre-existed that text that man had everything to do with.
We know man wrote the Bible . I don't think we do ourselves any good service to ignore that.
 

Whispered

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#48
The Book of Timothy chapter 3 and verses 16 & 17
All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.