10 Concise Reasons to Remember the Sabbath

[Studyman]

i know you talk alot about 'the 10 commandments' and a righteousness sought by keeping them.
is that Jesus?

Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, and by Him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the Law of Moses. Beware, therefore, lest what is said in the Prophets should come about:​

“‘Look, you scoffers,​

be astounded and perish;​

for I am doing a work in your days,​

a work that you will not believe, even if one tells it to you.’”​

(Acts 13:38-41) ​

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Christ does a work that people refuse to believe, even when it is told to them.

For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.​

(1 Corinthians 3:11) ​

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So this is what the Lord GOD says: ​

"See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; ​

the one who believes will never be shaken."​

(Isaiah 28:16) ​

i know you talk alot about 'the 10 commandments' and a righteousness sought by keeping them.
is that Jesus?

Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, and by Him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the Law of Moses. Beware, therefore, lest what is said in the Prophets should come about:​

“‘Look, you scoffers,​

be astounded and perish;​

for I am doing a work in your days,​

a work that you will not believe, even if one tells it to you.’”​

(Acts 13:38-41) ​

​

Christ does a work that people refuse to believe, even when it is told to them.

For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.​

(1 Corinthians 3:11) ​

​

So this is what the Lord GOD says: ​

"See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; ​

the one who believes will never be shaken."​

(Isaiah 28:16) ​

Yes, sadly most men simply do not believe in Him. They say they do, they even may believe they do. But by their deeds it is shown they do not.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Mark. 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Matt. 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

John 3:
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (Not mans deeds, lest man should boast)

Beta is "Striving to enter" at the straight gate. She believes as Jesus and Paul believes.

Acts 26:
19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

What works are worthy of repentance? Man's religious works, or God's instructions?

And Who created "good works" beforehand that we should walk in them. God or man?

Psalms 119:
171 My lips shall utter praise, when thou hast taught me thy statutes.
172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
173 Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.

You see, most men just don't really believe, but Beta does.

 

[posthuman]

Yes, sadly most men simply do not believe in Him. They say they do, they even may believe they do. But by their deeds it is shown they do not.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Mark. 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Matt. 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

John 3:
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (Not mans deeds, lest man should boast)

Beta is "Striving to enter" at the straight gate. She believes as Jesus and Paul believes.

Acts 26:
19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

What works are worthy of repentance? Man's religious works, or God's instructions?

And Who created "good works" beforehand that we should walk in them. God or man?

Psalms 119:
171 My lips shall utter praise, when thou hast taught me thy statutes.
172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
173 Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.

You see, most men just don't really believe, but Beta does.

totally missing the point again.

is it about the works we do or about the work He hath done?

 

[posthuman]

To whom would He teach knowledge,​

And to whom would He interpret the message?​

Those just weaned from milk?​

Those just taken from the breast?​

For He says,​

‘Order on order, order on order,​

Line on line, line on line,​

A little here, a little there.’​

Indeed, He will speak to this people​

Through stammering lips and a foreign tongue,​

He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”​

And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.​

So the word of the Lord to them will be,​

“Order on order, order on order,​

Line on line, line on line,​

A little here, a little there,”​

That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive. ​

(Isaiah 28:9-13)​

laying not again the foundation of repentance from dead works and faith in God.
the milk; the meat.

 

[posthuman]

Indeed, He will speak to this people
Through stammering lips and a foreign tongue,
He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
So the word of the Lord to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

it is because they would not listen.
because He said, "here is rest" but they would not receive it, and would not give it to the weary.
therefore the word to them is precept upon precept, line upon line -
in order that they fall.

what will they learn, by being broken and captured in this way?
by stumbling over the precepts and orders?
what is He teaching them?
rest.

 

[posthuman]

Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, and by Him everyone who believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the Law of Moses. Beware, therefore, lest what is said in the Prophets should come about:
“‘Look, you scoffers,
be astounded and perish;
for I am doing a work in your days,
a work that you will not believe, even if one tells it to you.’”
(Acts 13:38-41)

Paul quotes Habakkuk 1:5 here -- in which the LORD says He is raising up the Chaldeans to judge Israel.
Habakkuk complains about this, asking how can an unrighteous people judge a people more righteous than them?
God answers him, 'the just shall live by faith'

Paul connects a people called unrighteous rising up to judge a people called more righteous to this gospel:
forgiveness of sins, by belief, freedom from all the things the Law cannot free you from.

this is the marvelous thing that is not believed even though it is proclaimed:
forgiveness of sin. freedom through belief.
the unrighteous raised up above the righteous.

precept upon precept,
that they may stumble and fall backward,
because they would not listen when He said, 'this is rest'

 

[Studyman]

totally missing the point again.

is it about the works we do or about the work He hath done?

Definitely the "Work" God has before ordained that we should walk in.

 

[Studyman]

To whom would He teach knowledge,​

And to whom would He interpret the message?​

Those just weaned from milk?​

Those just taken from the breast?​

For He says,​

‘Order on order, order on order,​

Line on line, line on line,​

A little here, a little there.’​

Indeed, He will speak to this people​

Through stammering lips and a foreign tongue,​

He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”​

And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.​

So the word of the Lord to them will be,​

“Order on order, order on order,​

Line on line, line on line,​

A little here, a little there,”​

That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive. ​

(Isaiah 28:9-13)​

laying not again the foundation of repentance from dead works and faith in God.
the milk; the meat.

Absolutely.

but repenting from one religion, or a lifestyle which transgresses the Commandments of God by our own traditions to another religion or lifestyle which transgresses the Commandments of God by our traditions means nothing.

The implication in your preaching is that everything is acceptable "EXCEPT" following the instructions of God. We all have "WORKS", to say we don't is a deceit. Are these works "Wrought in God" or are they our own version of righteousness?

Its really very simple. But without repentance acceptable to God, there is no truth. And there are only two realities. Something is either true or it is not. At least according to the Author and Finisher of my Faith. We are snared by deception, and the truth shall make us free. But Jesus said He will pray to the Father "IF" we follow His instructions. If we don't follow His instructions, then there is no truth.

The serpent was able to convince Eve that she could know the truth without following God's instruction, by relying not on God for righteousness, but by her own sight, her own vision.

A child may want to stick his finger in a wall socket. A good parent knows that it is futile to try and reason and explain to the child "WHY" it is dangerous to do so. Instead, the good parent forbids the child to stick his finger in the light socket, and continues to tell this child over and over and over "Don't do it".

When the child sees the socket, and chooses not to stick the finger in it, not because he understands the danger, but because the father said "Don't do it", that is Faith.

If the child listens, and doesn't electrocute itself, it grows and soon understands why the father told him "Not to do it". He learns the wisdom of honoring a greater power that his. He learns the humility of denying our self and following the instructions of someone else. And this obedience builds "FAITH" in the Father because we learn his instructions are "For our own good", and not to deny us freedom or weaken or imprison us as is taught by "Many" who come in His Name..

My understand of your preaching, and "many" others on this forum and around the world, is when the child wants to stick his finger in the wall socket, a good parent just turns the power off. No discipline, no humility, no learning about instructions and the wisdom of the father. No, in this teaching the father does everything for the son.

In my view this is why there is so much evil within mainstream religions, and is also why Jesus said to "Come out of Her".

At some point a child needs to learn to trust the parent as Jesus trusted His Father. I don't think we can skip this part of the process.

 

[Studyman]

it is because they would not listen.
because He said, "here is rest" but they would not receive it, and would not give it to the weary.
therefore the word to them is precept upon precept, line upon line -
in order that they fall.

what will they learn, by being broken and captured in this way?
by stumbling over the precepts and orders?
what is He teaching them?
rest.

Is. 28:1 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!

7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.

Who did they refuse to listen to? What was their sin?

Are you preaching that they followed God's Instructions and this is why they "Erred in vision"?

22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.
23 Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech.

Had Ephraim hearkened to the voice of God in the first place, as did Abraham, would he have been in this fix?

 

[beta]

Definitely the "Work" God has before ordained that we should walk in.

That is definitely the case.....that we walk in His Commandments and instructions being conformed to His image ! Jesus and His Father work hitherto and all christians can talk about is REST - do nothing !

 

[posthuman]

The implication in your preaching is that everything is acceptable "EXCEPT" following the instructions of God.

not so, that's slander.

they also slandered the first believers making the same false accusation, see Romans 3:8

 

[posthuman]

Psalms 145:4-9
One generation shall praise Thy works to another, and shall declare Thy mighty acts.
I will speak of the glorious honour of Thy majesty, and of Thy wondrous works.
And [men] shall speak of the might of Thy terrible acts: and I will declare Thy greatness!
They shall abundantly utter the memory of Thy great goodness, and shall sing of Thy righteousness!
The LORD [is] gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy!
The LORD [is] good to all: and His tender mercies [are] over all His works!



it's supposed to be about Him
that's where rest is found

 

[posthuman]

not so, that's slander.

they also slandered the first believers making the same false accusation, see Romans 3:8

Romans 3:8
why not do evil that good may come? -- as some people slanderously charge us with saying.

where did people come up with this false accusation?

they didn't believe, even though it was told to them. as Habakkuk 1:5, Acts 13:38-41

 

[posthuman]

Acts 13:45-48

But when the Jews saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy and began to contradict what was spoken by Paul, reviling him. And Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly, saying, "It was necessary that the word of God be spoken first to you. Since you thrust it aside and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles. For so the Lord has commanded us, saying, "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'" And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.

 

[posthuman]

Luke 10:21-22

In that same hour He rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said,
"I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him."

 

[Studyman]

not so, that's slander.

they also slandered the first believers making the same false accusation, see Romans 3:8

I have printed and studied your posts, and they imply that following God's instructions over your religious traditions is proof that I am trying to be saved by my works. But creating images of God in the likeness of man and created "Feasts unto the Lord" in worship of this image is perfectly fine, you never judge those who partake in this sin, only those who believe we should listen to ALL of god's Word.

It is not slander to express the message me and others perceive from your religious posts. Instead of just always assuming you are righteous and anyone who disagrees with you is not, why don't you actually deal with the point of the posts and show the poster, with scripture, where he is in error.

It is, however, a perfect way for you to deflect and ignore the scriptures and the message of the post. This also seems like why you deflect.

I could be wrong, but it is your post, it sends a message and people reading them are left to receive it. You might consider that maybe it's your posts that leave the impression we receive, and not some secret grudge we hold against you.

 

[Studyman]

Psalms 145:4-9
One generation shall praise Thy works to another, and shall declare Thy mighty acts.
I will speak of the glorious honour of Thy majesty, and of Thy wondrous works.
And [men] shall speak of the might of Thy terrible acts: and I will declare Thy greatness!
They shall abundantly utter the memory of Thy great goodness, and shall sing of Thy righteousness!
The LORD [is] gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy!
The LORD [is] good to all: and His tender mercies [are] over all His works!



it's supposed to be about Him
that's where rest is found

Yes, it's supposed to be about the Word which became Flesh. The one taught in the Bible.

 

[posthuman]

totally missing the point again.

is it about the works we do or about the work He hath done?

Definitely the "Work" God has before ordained that we should walk in.

you think you work any good?
He thinks your work is filthy rags. very first thing after the 10 Commandments is the Law of the altar: the moment you put your tool to it, you defile it.

This testifies of His work; His works are perfect and are to be magnified.

 

[Studyman]

Luke 10:21-22

In that same hour He rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said,
"I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him."

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Amen.

 

[posthuman]

I have printed and studied your posts, and they imply that following God's instructions over your religious traditions is proof that I am trying to be saved by my works

probably you don't understand what you read. sure seems that way. you ain't even been able to accurately describe any of my 'traditions' - - you just make me the scapegoat of your imaginations, slanderously accusing me of any evil you happen to think of, and i just say Christ has abolished the enmity.

is it because i say that or because i showed you a year ago how you have colossians 2 wrong, and you're consumed with a spiteful, vain grudge?

may you find rest.

 

[posthuman]

Yes, it's supposed to be about the Word which became Flesh. The one taught in the Bible.

so speak of Him, not of you.
not of the imaginary person you hate.
of Him and His work