A true Christian is a "follower" of Jesus Christ

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I'm with you on this Chester..I honestly never heard of such things. Mark 13:31, Jesus said, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.”
Excellent quote ..... wish I thought of it!:)
 
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I didn't look into this stuff until I heard some hyper grace followers say Jesus' words are not a part of the NT. I was shocked to hear anyone say this, but when you see who they are getting these ideas from, then you will see they are really just following the false teachings of men. When you can match up their words and ideas with Joseph Princes, then you know where they are getting them from, and it's not from God or the Holy Spirit that is for sure.
Seeing this good quote by Jruiz, It kinda makes them look pretty bad. Not only do they "push" their doctrine, they are very brash & arrogant with their posts.

I also notice they cry a lot about "false statements" of Joseph Prince, but NEVER quote the book or sermons with the "correct" statements. You'd think if they loved him that much they would post what they "claim" is the truth, eh?
 
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True christian DO follow God. There is no wishy washy christian.. That's why a true believer can not lose salvation. They have been changed by God..

They will have works, there is no question about that, True faiht works, False faith does not. as James said, A person who CLAIMS to have faith, but has no WORK is a liar His faith is dead.. Otherwise, he would have had work..

Legalism is not true chritianity, To many modern day pharisees want to puch their agenda. They would crucify Christ on the spot if Christ came to earth today and showed truth.

Run far far away from these threads and these people who want to push their agenda.. And deny the grace of God.
 
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he whistles and she comes...illustrating my observations

at any rate, mrspirit, you don't have a fan club. what you have are members who have no respect for your rude and mocking posts

you have no one reading your site, and needing attention as you do, you come back here and no one bothers so you start up again with Joseph Prince

all I did was post your very own quotes and you call for backup and do your best to try and make it seem I am not right about you

but I am right about you...you are no prophet...your posts are full of hatred for believers here...you call them sons of belial in that one quote I posted and that thread is a goldmine for an understanding of your narcissistic personality

I just pray that those you like to target will ignore you and report you when you try to derail threads they start

I don't give a hoot about your responses...they actually give credence to what I said and compliment my observations

I'm sure you and your pal have plans to discuss so I'll leave you to it
It's rather ironic, that YOU tell HIM he's full of hatred when this very post OF YOURS shows hatred for HIM!

BTW, people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder do a thing called projection; they project their attitudes & actions on others, blaming them for what they are actually doing.

Guess what your post above looks like?
:rolleyes:
 
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Greek Strong's Number: 5546
Greek Word: Χριστιανός
Transliteration: Christianos
Phonetic Pronunciation:
khris-tee-an-os'

Root: from <G5547>
Cross Reference: TDNT - 9:493,1322
Part of Speech: n pr m
Vine's Words: Christian



Usage Notes:

English Words used in KJV:
Christian 3
[Total Count: 3]

from <G5547> (Christos); a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ :- Christian.
Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary.

You people will say ANYTHING to counter the truth..... which says a lot about your character.
You do realize that Strong's is just a compilation of the words that the King James version of the bible used to translate the scriptures?

The word "Chrsitian" actually means : "one who partakes of Christ's anointing".

Even the early church fathers knew of this fact.

Origen and Cyril of Alexandria argued that the name Christian described “one who partakes of Christ’s anointing” (see Lampe, Patristic Greek ).

The word Christian is from Christ which means "Anointed":

[FONT="Galatia Sil" !important]Χριστός[/FONT] [FONT="Gentium" !important]Christos[/FONT] name

Christ, anointed, the Anointed One.

Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Sigma-Omega.


So, Christians themselves are "anointed ones" because we are in Christ.
 
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You do realize that Strong's is just a compilation of the words that the King James version of the bible used to translate the scriptures?

The word "Chrsitian" actually means : "one who partakes of Christ's anointing".

Even the early church fathers knew of this fact.

Origen and Cyril of Alexandria argued that the name Christian described “one who partakes of Christ’s anointing” (see Lampe, Patristic Greek ).

The word Christian is from Christ which means "Anointed":

[FONT=&quot]Χριστός[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Christos[/FONT] name

Christ, anointed, the Anointed One.

Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Sigma-Omega.


So, Christians themselves are "anointed ones" because we are in Christ.
That's still a fail for you, Mr. Twister. :)
 
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It's rather ironic, that YOU tell HIM he's full of hatred when this very post OF YOURS shows hatred for HIM!

BTW, people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder do a thing called projection; they project their attitudes & actions on others, blaming them for what they are actually doing.

Guess what your post above looks like?
:rolleyes:
Man is ^^This^^true
 
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You do realize that Strong's is just a compilation of the words that the King James version of the bible used to translate the scriptures?

The word "Chrsitian" actually means : "one who partakes of Christ's anointing".

Even the early church fathers knew of this fact.

Origen and Cyril of Alexandria argued that the name Christian described “one who partakes of Christ’s anointing” (see Lampe, Patristic Greek ).

The word Christian is from Christ which means "Anointed":

Χριστός Christos name

Christ, anointed, the Anointed One.

Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Sigma-Omega.


So, Christians themselves are "anointed ones" because we are in Christ.
Christian

The name given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to the followers of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch. The names by which the disciples were known among themselves were "brethren," "the faithful," "elect," "saints," "believers." But as distinguishing them from the multitude without, the name "Christian" came into use, and was universally accepted. This name occurs but three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26; Acts 26:28; 1Pe 4:16).

Illustrated Bible Dictionary: And Treasury of Biblical History, Biography, Geography, Doctrine, and Literature.

CHRISTIAN (chrihss’ shuhn) The Greek Christianos originally applied to the slaves belonging to a great household. It came to denote the adherents of an individual or party. A Christian is an adherent of Christ; one committed to Christ; a follower of Christ. The word is used three times in the New Testament. 1. Believers “were called Christians first in Antioch” because their behavior, activity, and speech were like Christ (Acts 11:26). 2. Agrippa responded to Paul’s witness, “Almost thou persuade me to be a Christian” (Acts 26:28). He spoke of becoming an adherent of Christ. 3. Peter stated that believers who “suffer as a Christian” are to do so for the glory of God (1 Pet. 4:16). A Christian is one who becomes an adherent of Christ, whose daily life and behavior facing adversity is like Christ. Darrell W. RobinsonHolman Bible Dictionary.

CHRISTIAN
(Χριστιανός, Christianós):
1. Historicity of Acts 11:26:

The word Christian occurs only three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26; Acts 26:28; and 1 Peter 4:16). The first passage, Acts 11:26, gives the origin of the term, "The disciples were called Christians first in Antioch." The older generation of critical scholars disputed the historicity of this statement. It was argued that, had the term originated so early, it must have been found far more frequently in the records of early Christianity; sometimes also that the termination -ianus points to a Latin origin. But there is general agreement now that these objections are groundless. The historicity of the Lukan account is upheld not only by Harnack, but by the more radical Knopf in Die Schriften des New Testament, edited by Johannes Weiss. In early imperial times, the adjectival termination -ianos was widely diffused throughout the whole empire. Originally applied to the slaves belonging to the great households, it had passed into regular use to denote the adherents of an individual or a party. A Christian is thus simply an adherent of Christ.
The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia.

CHRISTIAN. A Christian is a believer in and a follower of Jesus Christ the Messiah. This name is more widely employed than any other designation of those who believe unto salvation. However, it occurs in the Scriptures only three times: “And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch” (Acts 11:26); “and Agrippa replied to Paul, ‘In a short time you will persuade me to become a Christian’ ” (Acts 26:28); “If anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not feel ashamed” (1 Peter 4:16). The term Christian is clearly a Gentile designation for believers because the word Christ, upon which the term was constructed, suggests recognition of the Messiah, which no unbelieving Jew was prepared to do. Becoming a Christian, according to the NT, is a definite act with significant results.
The New Unger's Bible Dictionary.

ad·her·ent

adˈhirənt,adˈherənt/
noun


Like I said:
You people will say ANYTHING to counter the truth..... which says a lot about your character.
 
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If we follow someone, we walk in the same way they did, mimicking the example they showed us, and follow their directions.
 
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If we follow someone, we walk in the same way they did, mimicking the example they showed us, and follow their directions.
The hyper grace crowd may think this is too radical or legalistic! I agree with you 100%!!
 
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If we follow someone, we walk in the same way they did, mimicking the example they showed us, and follow their directions.
Yeah, and that would be hard to do for somebody who claims that Jesus' teachings & works are all "Old Testament", wouldn't it?:)
 
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Legalistic

Isn't it ironic that the label thrown at folks who "follow" Jesus is the same one used to describe the Pharisees?
 
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An obedient walk of faith empowered by God is called "legalistic" by them. :)
 
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If we follow someone, we walk in the same way they did, mimicking the example they showed us, and follow their directions.

Here in lies the rub - the true Christian life is Christ Himself living in us - not us mcmicking Him. That's called a religion.

Galatians 2:20 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

We all agree of what the Christian life should look like - where people have a difference in belief is "how is this achieved" - self-effort by doing good deeds or by the life of Christ in us.


It is by the Spirit that we put to death the deeds of the flesh. The #1 enemy of the Lord Jesus Christ is the religion of Christianity.


 
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The hyper grace crowd may think this is too radical or legalistic! I agree with you 100%!!
Why would you falsley accuse people of things which are not true. They, nor would any grace teacher, would not think this.

It becomes legalistic when it is made a pre-requisit for salvation. Not something which is a natural result of salvation. Which is what HG and all grace people would teach.
 
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An obedient walk of faith empowered by God is called "legalistic" by them. :)

That's not true...no one has ever said that...that is a "construct" from your own mind to disparage the message and beauty of the grace of God in our lives.
 
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Greek Strong's Number: 5546
Greek Word: Χριστιανός
Transliteration: Christianos
Phonetic Pronunciation:
khris-tee-an-os'

Root: from <G5547>
Cross Reference: TDNT - 9:493,1322
Part of Speech: n pr m
Vine's Words: Christian



Usage Notes:

English Words used in KJV:
Christian 3
[Total Count: 3]

from <G5547> (Christos); a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ :- Christian.
Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary.

You people will say ANYTHING to counter the truth..... which says a lot about your character.
All very interesting I am sure. But the fact is that label “Christian" was applied to believers by others because we were considered Christ-ones, ones of Christ. And we took it as a badge of honor and have worn it proudly ever since.

Something actually interesting and relevant is that it was in Antioch. We believers in Jesus Christ were first called Christians in Antioch. It is not mere coincidence, but it was by design that Christianity was given form at Antioch not Jerusalem. Can you guess why??
 
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Here in lies the rub - the true Christian life is Christ Himself living in us - not us mcmicking Him. That's called a religion.

Galatians 2:20 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I,but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

We all agree of what the Christian life should look like - where people have a difference in belief is "how is this achieved" - self-effort by doing good deeds or by the life of Christ in us.


It is by the Spirit that we put to death the deeds of the flesh. The #1 enemy of the Lord Jesus Christ is the religion of Christianity.


True believers have a new nature. The old is passed away, With the new nature, a new child of God will start to act his new nature, and grow in that nature, The older he gets, the more he looks like his new nature.

Acting like our savior is a result of salvation, Not a pre-requisite. Like the self righteous legalists want to proclaim. And then judge us as loves of sin because we disagree.

But its ok, The pharisee did the same to Jesus. They claimed he was a lover of sin and sinners. Well of course he was, He came to save the sick, The righteous (one who does not know he is sick) does not see his need of salvation. so why bother going to them..
 
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Christian

The name given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to the followers of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch. The names by which the disciples were known among themselves were "brethren," "the faithful," "elect," "saints," "believers." But as distinguishing them from the multitude without, the name "Christian" came into use, and was universally accepted. This name occurs but three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26; Acts 26:28; 1Pe 4:16).

Illustrated Bible Dictionary: And Treasury of Biblical History, Biography, Geography, Doctrine, and Literature.

CHRISTIAN (chrihss’ shuhn) The Greek Christianos originally applied to the slaves belonging to a great household. It came to denote the adherents of an individual or party. A Christian is an adherent of Christ; one committed to Christ; a follower of Christ. The word is used three times in the New Testament. 1. Believers “were called Christians first in Antioch” because their behavior, activity, and speech were like Christ (Acts 11:26). 2. Agrippa responded to Paul’s witness, “Almost thou persuade me to be a Christian” (Acts 26:28). He spoke of becoming an adherent of Christ. 3. Peter stated that believers who “suffer as a Christian” are to do so for the glory of God (1 Pet. 4:16). A Christian is one who becomes an adherent of Christ, whose daily life and behavior facing adversity is like Christ. Darrell W. RobinsonHolman Bible Dictionary.

CHRISTIAN
(Χριστιανός, Christianós):
1. Historicity of Acts 11:26:

The word Christian occurs only three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26; Acts 26:28; and 1 Peter 4:16). The first passage, Acts 11:26, gives the origin of the term, "The disciples were called Christians first in Antioch." The older generation of critical scholars disputed the historicity of this statement. It was argued that, had the term originated so early, it must have been found far more frequently in the records of early Christianity; sometimes also that the termination -ianus points to a Latin origin. But there is general agreement now that these objections are groundless. The historicity of the Lukan account is upheld not only by Harnack, but by the more radical Knopf in Die Schriften des New Testament, edited by Johannes Weiss. In early imperial times, the adjectival termination -ianos was widely diffused throughout the whole empire. Originally applied to the slaves belonging to the great households, it had passed into regular use to denote the adherents of an individual or a party. A Christian is thus simply an adherent of Christ.
The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia.

CHRISTIAN. A Christian is a believer in and a follower of Jesus Christ the Messiah. This name is more widely employed than any other designation of those who believe unto salvation. However, it occurs in the Scriptures only three times: “And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch” (Acts 11:26); “and Agrippa replied to Paul, ‘In a short time you will persuade me to become a Christian’ ” (Acts 26:28); “If anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not feel ashamed” (1 Peter 4:16). The term Christian is clearly a Gentile designation for believers because the word Christ, upon which the term was constructed, suggests recognition of the Messiah, which no unbelieving Jew was prepared to do. Becoming a Christian, according to the NT, is a definite act with significant results.
The New Unger's Bible Dictionary.

ad·her·ent

adˈhirənt,adˈherənt/
noun


Like I said:
Of course "Christian" was a name given to those that aligned themselves with Christ...that's a gimmie...:)