History of the Sabbath - Have you been tricked?
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It would seem you are promoting the "things of men" that offend the "things of God" called the oral traditions of the fathers (Torah) .Scriptures identifies that as the private interpretations of men.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.2Pe 1:20
Real Christians are free to do whatever they desire on whatever day. If some want to do some sort of a Old Covenant ritual or observance at any time - they are free to do so....and others are free not to.
The Old Covenant is a shadow of the real thing which is Christ Himself. Use the things in the Old Covenant to see Jesus fulfilling them.
Where the perversion of the gospel of the grace of Christ comes in is when people say "If you don't observe the things in the Old Covenant - then you are not obeying God". This is anti-Christ and yes this applies to the Jewish Sabbath and feast days in the Old Covenant as well.
So, to those that like to do a ritual or observance on Friday nights and Saturdays - have fun! ...and the Lord bless you and keep you. May the Lord shine His face on you. May the Father give unto you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Old Covenant is a shadow of the real thing which is Christ Himself. Use the things in the Old Covenant to see Jesus fulfilling them.
Where the perversion of the gospel of the grace of Christ comes in is when people say "If you don't observe the things in the Old Covenant - then you are not obeying God". This is anti-Christ and yes this applies to the Jewish Sabbath and feast days in the Old Covenant as well.
So, to those that like to do a ritual or observance on Friday nights and Saturdays - have fun! ...and the Lord bless you and keep you. May the Lord shine His face on you. May the Father give unto you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.
ODDLY ENOUGH, THIS PASSAGE SEEMS TO EQUATE LOVING GOD TO ACTUALLY DOING WHAT HE SAYS!
"And the foreigners who join themselves to YHVH, to minister to him,
to love the name of YHVH, and to be his servants,
everyone who keeps the Sabbath and does not profane it,
and holds fast my covenant— these I will bring to my holy mountain,
and make them joyful in my house of prayer;
their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar;
for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples."
Isaiah 56:6-7 (ESV2011, MBM)
"And the foreigners who join themselves to YHVH, to minister to him,
to love the name of YHVH, and to be his servants,
everyone who keeps the Sabbath and does not profane it,
and holds fast my covenant— these I will bring to my holy mountain,
and make them joyful in my house of prayer;
their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar;
for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples."
Isaiah 56:6-7 (ESV2011, MBM)
We keep it by observing it for what it is .............a shadow pointing to the rest we already have that will be consummated when we receive our new incorruptible bodies, which simply will not be Jew or gentile, male nor female..
The private interpretation is the Torah. The one its seems you must seek the approval, as the approval of men. Seeing no man can serve two Masters,two heavenly Fathers .. Cant mix the tradition of God as it is written and the oral traditions of men called fathers .(Christ's nemesis)
The private interpretation is the Torah. The one its seems you must seek the approval, as the approval of men. Seeing no man can serve two Masters,two heavenly Fathers .. Cant mix the tradition of God as it is written and the oral traditions of men called fathers .(Christ's nemesis)
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Matthew 22:36-40
[SUP]36 [/SUP]“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” [SUP]37 [/SUP]And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the great and foremost commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ [SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
These are the two greatest Commandments. Keeping the Sabbath Holy was not included into the Greatest Commandments. So why are you doing the work of Satan? Its Satan who demands we keep the Sabbath Holy as our greatest Commandment, not God.
We must understand keeping the Sabbath Holy is how a person justifies himself by outward acts. But inside the Heart is what counts. If you have hate for your neighbor for not keeping the Sabbath the way you want it, then you are not following Jesus. Instead you are following your hard Heart instead.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” [SUP]37 [/SUP]And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the great and foremost commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ [SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
These are the two greatest Commandments. Keeping the Sabbath Holy was not included into the Greatest Commandments. So why are you doing the work of Satan? Its Satan who demands we keep the Sabbath Holy as our greatest Commandment, not God.
We must understand keeping the Sabbath Holy is how a person justifies himself by outward acts. But inside the Heart is what counts. If you have hate for your neighbor for not keeping the Sabbath the way you want it, then you are not following Jesus. Instead you are following your hard Heart instead.
You do show a lot of hate in your Heart every time you post questions about keeping the Law. You MUST realize the Law was fulfilled by Jesus on the Cross. We are no longer under the Law because we are under Grace.
This is not just a little disagreement. You actually go out of your way to attack others for not following your teachings. Its you who hate those who walk in Grace. Its you who attack those who refuse to listen to your teachings.
Repent, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
This is not just a little disagreement. You actually go out of your way to attack others for not following your teachings. Its you who hate those who walk in Grace. Its you who attack those who refuse to listen to your teachings.
Repent, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
Wow, sorry you got that perception.
no hate in my heart. I haven't told anyone here they are lost, condemned, headed for hell, etc because they don't agree with me. I could even be wrong on some things, believe it or not.
already told you, I have a Savior. Repenting is always a good idea!
oh you think jesus abolished the law, right?
It seems like He said He would not do that.
no hate in my heart. I haven't told anyone here they are lost, condemned, headed for hell, etc because they don't agree with me. I could even be wrong on some things, believe it or not.
already told you, I have a Savior. Repenting is always a good idea!
oh you think jesus abolished the law, right?
It seems like He said He would not do that.
If folks choose to follow traditions of man that's there choice , what is prideful and satanic behavior is accusing others of not believing truth because what they say doesn't agree with the false teachings they have been exposed to, they have already unwittingly accepted a lie in place of the truth, only the Holy Spirit can lead them out of this counterfeit truth.
what is pathetic is this: they always claim they are messiah like yet how they treat others shows a fleshly pride and arrogance that is not heavenly but is fleshly and devilish.
what is pathetic is this: they always claim they are messiah like yet how they treat others shows a fleshly pride and arrogance that is not heavenly but is fleshly and devilish.