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That's good.. It's best just to walk in what Paul says. It's a blessing - believe me.

Romans 16:17 (KJV)
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Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.



You say - The sky is blue....but some will say you are saying it is green. These types we just have to ignore as they just distort what is being said and personal name-calling is their specialty.
I agree 100%.

You should be ignored because though you quote scripture constantly, your meaning is
totally different from most peoples, and they have no clue.

EG is 100% contentious and accuses people all the times of things they did not say or mean.

You equally always fail to answer the points and side step with some irrelevancy.
Your whole mission is nothing in Christ is difficult, just realise who you are in the new spirit,
and out it will come, except this never happens. And then you blame this failure on the flesh,
which you can do nothing about.

Dualism always fails, but to the totally disfunctional it is appealing, for a short time.

But if people read their bibles, ask questions and start to get real in Christ, then Amen.
 
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What is like porn is to have others in the body of Christ call them names and distort what is being said. That is what is like porn to our minds and it is defiling.

When people add personal name calling to others and then say we should live godly after defiling them first - that is bringing poison to others.

This grieves the Holy Spirit within us because we are not giving out words of grace but poison mixed in with a supposedly call for living godly.

Ephesians 4:29-30 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

[SUP]30 [/SUP] Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.



There is neither acceptance grace nor sanctifying grace with this sort of behavior.

James 3:8-10 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But no one can tame the tongue; it is a restless evil and full of deadly poison.

[SUP]9 [/SUP] With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God;

[SUP]10 [/SUP] from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way.

The sky is blue...
 
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What is like porn is to have others in the body of Christ call them names and distort what is being said. That is what is like porn to our minds and it is defiling.

When people add personal name calling to others and then say we should live godly after defiling them first - that is bringing poison to others.

This grieves the Holy Spirit within us because we are not giving out words of grace but poison mixed in with a supposedly call for living godly.

Ephesians 4:29-30 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

[SUP]30 [/SUP] Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.



There is neither acceptance grace nor sanctifying grace with this sort of behavior.

James 3:8-10 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But no one can tame the tongue; it is a restless evil and full of deadly poison.

[SUP]9 [/SUP] With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God;

[SUP]10 [/SUP] from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way.

The sky is blue...

I would not worry about it Grace777. Not worth it.


We know what you mean.
 
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FAITH ALONE SAVES IS A LIE, A FALSE DOCTRINE, UNBIBLICAL A DECEPTION SCHEME OF THE DEVIL TO PROMOTE DISOBEDIENCE, DISUNITY, WICKEDNESS & TO DESTROY THE TRUTH.

USING THE PHRASE “NOT BY WORKS”(eph 2:8-9), WHEREIN THE WORD “WORKS” REFER TO THE “WORKS OF THE LAW”(gal 2:16),THEY INTRODUCED “ FAITH ALONE SAVES” WHICH CONTRADICTS “FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD” (james 2:17-26) THUS INSULTING THE APOSTLE OF OUR LORD JESUS & THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDING HIM AND MAKING IT APPEAR THAT THEY KNOW BETTER THAN THEM.

THIS IS ABOMINABLE IN THE SIGHT OF GOD AND A CHRISTIAN IN HIS RIGHT FRAME OF MIND WOULD BE ABLE TO DISCERN THE TRUTH AND GET AWAY FROM THESE SERVANTS OF DARKNESS WHOM IN THEIR HYPOCRISY BOASTS OF AN ETERNAL SALVATION WHICH THEY CLAIM TO ALREADY POSSESS AND THAT CANNOT BE LOST, SO THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY DESIRE TO DO.

THERE ARE ONLY TWO KINDS OF WORK, ONE THAT IS GOOD(THAT IS OBEDIENCE TO THE WILL OF GOD),AND ONE THAT IS BAD(OBEDIENCE TO THE WILL OF THE DEVIL).

2 Corinthians 11:3-4,13-15 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. For such men are FALSE apostles, DECEITFUL WORKMEN, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

1 Corinthians 15:33-34 Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.” Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God—I say this to your shame.

2 Corinthians 13:7-8 Now we pray to God that you will not DO anything WRONG. Not that people will see that we have stood the test but that you will DO what is RIGHT even though we may seem to have failed. For we cannot do anything against the truth, but only for the truth.


Galatians 2:8,16,20-21 For GOD, who was AT WORK in the MINISTRY of Peter as an apostle to the Jews, was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles. know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ.(refer to ephesians 2:8-9) So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the GRACE OF GOD, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Hebrews 5:8-9 though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered. And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal SALVATION unto all those who OBEY Him.
Keep dreaming to the bolded above.....it is faith and faith alone that saves genius.....

Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Open your eyes to the truth before you wake up some place hot...............and liquid deprived friend!
 
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don't know about you. but I am confused.

He said YOU think he teaches works have nothing to do with salvation, at least that is how I read it.

did you change your view?? lol
Not hardly.......I will go to the ground believing that faith and faith alone saves....end of story...I assumed he was agreeing that works/fruit have noting to do with salvation, but are the results of the salvation and faith one already possesses.....did I miss something?

You know good and well that there is no way in h--l that I will ever change my mind on biblical salvation......ALL JESUS bro.... ;)
 
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hey bud, a few notes.

1. Legalism promotes sin Not grace, It waters down the law. and as long as you d not do certain pet sins, your in.

2. Grace promotes a life of people wanting to serve their father. out of thanksgiving, gratitude and love

3. There is no law in Ephesians, You adding to the word by saying "works" in eph 2 is referring to the law. Nothing in context of the passage has any reference to law.

4. James did not contradict paul. He stated a fact. If you CLAIM you have faith, but have ZERO WORKS. your faith is dead (non existent) and can not save you why? We are saved by faith, Faith produces works..

5. your right, there are two kinds of works.. But your wrong as to what they are. There are good works (works of righteousness) which are those done in the spirit. Their are unrighteous works. Those done in the flesh.. Two people cna do the same act. Yet one it is an act of sin, the other and act of righteousness..

6. 2 cor. 11.. You and those who preach the cross is not enough are those who preach a different jesus.. You state his work was not enough, When he said it is finshed (complete)

7. You seem to be preaching sinlessness. Are you, if you are, you are an extreme legalist. who needs to study the law more. so you can realize just how sinful you really are.. because the law has not led you to christ

8. Gods people do obey him, they do not live in sin (1 John 3) one who sins has never seen God or known him (again John 3)

AMEN I agree.......some remind me of the 007 sinless "worker for" that used to float around..........
 
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Hi talisman believer.

When will you open your heart to love?
We are called to follow the law of Christ.

We are under grace as expressed by the love through the Cross of Christ.

And this love and forgiveness washes us clean and makes us into temples of the Holy Spirit.
And as temples when we see need we respond, because that is what loving people do.

When we compare our behaviour in love to the law of Christ we find we fulfill it without
even trying.

I suggest you try it yourself.
Both he and I suggest you try faith and the truth.......Jesus saves...you should look to him in faith.
 

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what about the verse that says " but Lord we cast devils out, the Lord replied, depart from me I never knew you. No relationship, one girl said she sang in the choir but never kn ew Jesus. So much for works.
 
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Calling people to respond to love from the heart, to cleanse themselves through the
cross, to have an open heart to God and Christ, is now "porn"!!!!!

Only a false teacher would say such a thing, a wolf in sheeps clothing
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How is it love speaking to us, teaching us through the words of Jesus defiles a person?

Only the enemy would say such a thing, literally.
And if you follow this advice, you know who you will have to stand before to justify how
you walked, if you even have walked with Jesus at all.

Such is about 98-99% of what you have said in your replies on this thread........Because you keep adding yourself to the equation....as in ME AND JESUS saved my soul.....I am such a righteous worker for JESUS....OH HOW I LOVE JEEEZUS......this is how those men identified as false teachers peddle their version of Jesus....

His sacrifice and faith is sufficient.......add to it...you water it down by your own failures!
 
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I agree 100%.

You should be ignored because though you quote scripture constantly, your meaning is
totally different from most peoples, and they have no clue.

EG is 100% contentious and accuses people all the times of things they did not say or mean.

You equally always fail to answer the points and side step with some irrelevancy.
Your whole mission is nothing in Christ is difficult, just realise who you are in the new spirit,
and out it will come, except this never happens. And then you blame this failure on the flesh,
which you can do nothing about.

Dualism always fails, but to the totally disfunctional it is appealing, for a short time.

But if people read their bibles, ask questions and start to get real in Christ, then Amen.
I am jealous....You forgot to add me in with my fellow brothers in Christ who actually know Jesus by faith......!
 
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What is like porn is to have others in the body of Christ call them names and distort what is being said. That is what is like porn to our minds and it is defiling.

When people add personal name calling to others and then say we should live godly after defiling them first - that is bringing poison to others.

This grieves the Holy Spirit within us because we are not giving out words of grace but poison mixed in with a supposedly call for living godly.

Ephesians 4:29-30 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

[SUP]30 [/SUP] Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.



There is neither acceptance grace nor sanctifying grace with this sort of behavior.

James 3:8-10 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But no one can tame the tongue; it is a restless evil and full of deadly poison.

[SUP]9 [/SUP] With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God;

[SUP]10 [/SUP] from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way.

The sky is blue...
As blue as it can be.........
 
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what about the verse that says " but Lord we cast devils out, the Lord replied, depart from me I never knew you. No relationship, one girl said she sang in the choir but never kn ew Jesus. So much for works.
AMEN.....that is because it is about faith and faith alone.....

Salvation, justification, sanctification (positionally) and the sealing of the Spirit is all based upon acknowledging Jesus by faith...to add works for salvation, to keep salvation or maintain salvation is to devalue what Christ has already done by faith....Paul identifies it as a false gospel with no power to save, is double cursed and leads to hell.......Galatians 1, 3
 
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what about the verse that says " but Lord we cast devils out, the Lord replied, depart from me I never knew you. No relationship, one girl said she sang in the choir but never kn ew Jesus. So much for works.
amen, alot of people are going to go to Christ with all their good deeds. And Jesus will tell them depart. he never knew them.

Works are meaningless as far as justification goes..
 
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I am jealous....You forgot to add me in with my fellow brothers in Christ who actually know Jesus by faith......!

Its ok, brother. God knows your name.. What a person thinks does not matter..
 
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Such is about 98-99% of what you have said in your replies on this thread........Because you keep adding yourself to the equation....as in ME AND JESUS saved my soul.....I am such a righteous worker for JESUS....OH HOW I LOVE JEEEZUS......this is how those men identified as false teachers peddle their version of Jesus....

His sacrifice and faith is sufficient.......add to it...you water it down by your own failures!
So you want to mock my testimony?
Very odd behaviour. Is it wrong to share personal testimony?
I think you are scrabbling for a failure and cannot find any.
Shows your intention rather than your wisdom...
 

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Romans 9:15-16 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.

Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ONLY HE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Galatians 6:7-10 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

WHAT THEN WILL A MAN WITH DEAD FAITH(without works) SOW & REAP? NOTHING!!!...FAITH WITHOUT LOVE IS NOTHING.(1cor 13:2)

FAITH WITHOUT HOPE IS NOT FAITH(heb 11:1) BUT YOU SAY “...SALVATION WE ALREADY POSSESS.” SO YOU HAVE PASSED THE TRIBULATION, DONE WITH THE RESURRECTION & EXEMPTED FROM JUDGMENT??? NEED SOME REALITY CHECK HERE. BUT I’M SURE YOU WILL USE ROMANS 8:1 AS A DEFENSE,..BUT HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT YOU ARE IN CHRIST IF YOU ARE DISOBEDIENT, LAZY, WITHOUT GOOD WORKS, HYPOCRITE & WITHOUT THE SPIRIT BECAUSE OF DEAD FAITH.

FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD(james 2:17-26) AND I DON’T KNOW WHY THE DEAD COULD NOT ACCEPT THIS...BUT GOD IS SO GOOD THAT HE WANTS EVERYONE TO BE SAVED AND COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH(1 tim 2:4)

Matthew23:3-4,12-13,15,23-26,28,33 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for THEY DO NOT PRACTICE WHAT THEY PPREACH. They tie up heavy loads and put them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are NOT WILLING TO LIFT A FINGER TO MOVE them. For whoever EXALTS HIMSELF will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. YOU yourselves DO NOT ENTER, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much A SON OF HELL AS YOU ARE. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—JUSTICE, MERCY & FAITHFULNESS. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. YOU BLIND GUIDES! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are FULL OF GREED & SELF INDULGENCE. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND WICKEDNESS. “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?.
 
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So you want to mock my testimony?
Very odd behaviour. Is it wrong to share personal testimony?
I think you are scrabbling for a failure and cannot find any.
Shows your intention rather than your wisdom...
You should pay attention to everything I said...I made fun of nothing.....but rather made a direct point....a little leaven leavens the whole lump...a works based salvation is a false gospel and full of leaven which leavens the whole lump....and I made a direst reference to the SELF righteous false teachers that fill the airwaves and how they are......PAY ATTENTION to the word THOSE MEN.........

Originally Posted by dcontroversal
Such is about 98-99% of what you have said in your replies on this thread........Because you keep adding yourself to the equation....as in ME AND JESUS saved my soul.....I am such a righteous worker for JESUS....OH HOW I LOVE JEEEZUS......this is how those men identified as false teachers peddle their version of Jesus....

His sacrifice and faith is sufficient.......add to it...you water it down by your own failures!
 
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Romans 9:15-16 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.

Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ONLY HE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Galatians 6:7-10 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

WHAT THEN WILL A MAN WITH DEAD FAITH(without works) SOW & REAP? NOTHING!!!...FAITH WITHOUT LOVE IS NOTHING.(1cor 13:2)

FAITH WITHOUT HOPE IS NOT FAITH(heb 11:1) BUT YOU SAY “...SALVATION WE ALREADY POSSESS.” SO YOU HAVE PASSED THE TRIBULATION, DONE WITH THE RESURRECTION & EXEMPTED FROM JUDGMENT??? NEED SOME REALITY CHECK HERE. BUT I’M SURE YOU WILL USE ROMANS 8:1 AS A DEFENSE,..BUT HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT YOU ARE IN CHRIST IF YOU ARE DISOBEDIENT, LAZY, WITHOUT GOOD WORKS, HYPOCRITE & WITHOUT THE SPIRIT BECAUSE OF DEAD FAITH.

FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD(james 2:17-26) AND I DON’T KNOW WHY THE DEAD COULD NOT ACCEPT THIS...BUT GOD IS SO GOOD THAT HE WANTS EVERYONE TO BE SAVED AND COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH(1 tim 2:4)

Matthew23:3-4,12-13,15,23-26,28,33 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for THEY DO NOT PRACTICE WHAT THEY PPREACH. They tie up heavy loads and put them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are NOT WILLING TO LIFT A FINGER TO MOVE them. For whoever EXALTS HIMSELF will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. YOU yourselves DO NOT ENTER, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much A SON OF HELL AS YOU ARE. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—JUSTICE, MERCY & FAITHFULNESS. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. YOU BLIND GUIDES! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are FULL OF GREED & SELF INDULGENCE. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND WICKEDNESS. “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?.
Galatians chapters 1 and 3<-----A fool adds works to faith for salvation....they are a fool because it is a false gospel of a different kind, it has no power to save and is double cursed.....

FAITH into JESUS alone saves, seals, justifies and sanctifies (positionally) eternally......after a period of GROWTH and MATURITY (creation testifies) one who is born again of the spirit ALREADY will produce FRUIT....and have works....gold, silver, precious stones and or wood, hay and stubble (both saved)....ONE cannot produce UNLESS they are in the VINE and ALIVE already. (creation testifies)

Wake up...faith saves....works do not save, keep saved or add to our salvation.....end of story!
 

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Keep dreaming to the bolded above.....it is faith and faith alone that saves genius.....

Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Open your eyes to the truth before you wake up some place hot...............and liquid deprived friend!
Since it is on God to cause the increase and it is a war of principalities & dark forces, we should not be looking down on those brethren that are erring from the truth, but praying for them. Only He can open the eyes & ears to see & hear.

1 Corinthians 3:[SUP]5 [/SUP]Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?[SUP]6 [/SUP]I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.[SUP]7 [/SUP]So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Ephesians 6:[SUP]10 [/SUP]Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.[SUP]11 [/SUP]Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.[SUP]12 [/SUP]For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.[SUP]14 [/SUP]Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;[SUP]15 [/SUP]And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;[SUP]16 [/SUP]Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.[SUP]17 [/SUP]And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;[SUP]19 [/SUP]And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,[SUP]20 [/SUP]For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

So I pray that the Lord will help you be that ambassador as I pray the same for me. This is His ministry; we should be looking to Him to minister, but we do need a reminder from Him from time to time to not look down on the brethren because He has not helped them to see the truth in His words yet; we all prophesy in part & know in part... so let us be thankful that we see & hear and pray for those that do not see nor hear yet as the spiritual battle is His to reach them.