GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[PS]

Heb 4:10: For he that is entered into his rest [received the Gospel], he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His.

Because of receiving the Gospel we cease from our own works as GOD did from His.

Correct.

"As is" is a direct comparison. So with that you must ask yourself how and when did God cease from his own works?
The answer to that is recorded in Gen 2.... on the Seventh Day, And God did rest from all His work on the seventh day (see Hebrews Verse 4 and Genesis Chapter 2:1-3).

God's rest after seven days was a permanent rest due to the work being completed.

God Is a Spiritual Being he is always in the state of Spiritual Rest.

As is our spiritual rest in God.

HE did not enter into the Rest of the GOSPEL. On the Seventh Day, the Sabbath he ceased from the physical labor of creation. And this is recorded in Genesis 2.

The Gospel came later, the physical work came first.

Therefore they that have received the Gospel Rest, cease from their own physical work as God did from His physical work on the 7th day Sabbath.

Correct. The person who enters into the 'Gospel Rest' is able to rest from their own self-justifying PHYSICAL works of law keeping, due to the later finished work of salvation by Jesus on the cross. This is the end of physical law-keeping for us, and the beginning of a New Law, the New Covenant, that is written on our hearts.

And this is, was and will continue to be done on the Seventh day of the week.

The 'Gospel Rest' of salvation is permanent as was God's creative act, and Christ’s finished work on the cross which is also permanent. No longer does our salvation depend on the observance of Mosaic rites and ceremonies repeated every seven days. These were ended by the finished work of our spiritual salvation by Jesus on the cross, which is for all time.

 

[Studyman]

but we will be unsaved if we do the wrong thing

is the idea presented

This idea you seem to have trouble with, that has been rejected by Cain and religious men throughout history, was first presented by Jesus.

Gen. 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

The whole purpose of the Gospel is to teach us to "do well". To "Repent" and change from doing our definition of righteousness, and turning to God's definition. Not what Cain thought was acceptable, or religious man. But what Jesus, the God of Abraham, thought was "Doing well".

It's an age old concept that "Many" will refuse to accept, as it is written.

 

[Jackson123]

Jackson123,
re: "say on Monday you come to Jesus, do you have to wait till Saturday to get rest?"

To what kind of rest are you referring?

dear,

to my knowledge, real rest is only in Jesus, rest is sabbath. Jesus never give second quality, olways first and genuine rest/sabbath.

businessman may close his office on Saturday but his mind may not rest.

Jesus promise to give rest who ever come to Him,

Jesus not say : come to me, I will give you rest, but wait, to day is Sunday no delivery on Sunday the UPS only deliver on Saturday.

 

[Studyman]

LGF. Read Numbers 28:9-10.

"On the Sabbath day offer two one-year-old male lambs without any defects, 4 pounds of flour mixed with olive oil as a grain offering, and the wine offering. This burnt offering is to be offered every Sabbath in addition to the daily offering with its wine offering."

They slaughtered two lambs every Sabbath, in addition to the daily sacrifice.

The priests killed the lambs on the Sabbath, they made fires to burn them despite the fact that kindling a fire was expressly forbidden in Exo_35:3. And it was done in the temple, in the place of holiness, where the law should have been most strictly observed.

So much for your Sabbath teaching.

Jesus, in His infinite wisdom, showed us exactly how the deceiver works in the beginning with Eve. The deceiver uses parts of God's Word to trick those with whom it is talking to, into rejecting God's Word. Eve fell for it, Abel didn't.

You use this scripture regarding the duties specifically for Levite Priests, but you omit the part that tells us these duties were for the Priest, not for the people. You omit the scriptures that tell us that these duties were Part of the Levitical Priesthood Law. So these Priests were following God's Law, not breaking it as you want to deceive readers into believing.

You also omit God's Word that speaks to a time when Jesus will "CHANGE" this Priesthood, and will become the High Priest Himself. (Jer. 31)

You use selected Word's of God, as did the serpent, to promote an agenda, a religion, which teach against obedience to God and His Instructions, as did the serpent. In this case His Sabbath.

You must do this because if you consider and use "EVERY" Word of God, your religious traditions would be exposed as coming from man and not from God. The Pharisees encountered the same problem.

Maybe you have been given this power by the Pope or Benny Hinn, or maybe it is self exaltation, I don't know. But one thing for sure, it didn't come from the Scriptures.

 

[PS]

The Decalogue and that in the Book of the Law which pertains to what righteousness is; is written in our hearts, minds and mouths that we do it through GOD.

Heb 10:1-27

The futility of Old Testament Law
(1) For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. (2)For then would they not have ceased to be offered? Because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.(3) But in those sacrifices there is remembrance again made of sins every year. (4) For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. (5) Wherefore when he[Jesus] cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldst not, but a body hast thou prepared me: [psalm 40:6-8] (6) In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. (7) Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.(8) Above when he said, [v5]Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldst not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; (9) Then said he, [v7]Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. (10)By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of JESUS CHRIST once for all.


The supremacy of Christ
(11) And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering often-times the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: (12)But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; (13)From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.(14) For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.


Christ’s finished work and the inauguration of a New Covenant.
(15)Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, (16) This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws [THE LAWS OF Jesus] into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; (17) And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. [BLOTTED OUT IN THE SEA OF HIS FORGETFULNESS] (18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


The Full Assurance of Faith in Jesus Christ
(19) Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, (20) By a new and living way, [THE NEW COVENANT] which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; (21) And having an high priest over the house of God; (22)Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. (23)Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised (24)And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: (25)Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. (26)For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, (27)But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

 

[gb9]

Jesus, in His infinite wisdom, showed us exactly how the deceiver works in the beginning with Eve. The deceiver uses parts of God's Word to trick those with whom it is talking to, into rejecting God's Word. Eve fell for it, Abel didn't.

You use this scripture regarding the duties specifically for Levite Priests, but you omit the part that tells us these duties were for the Priest, not for the people. You omit the scriptures that tell us that these duties were Part of the Levitical Priesthood Law. So these Priests were following God's Law, not breaking it as you want to deceive readers into believing.

You also omit God's Word that speaks to a time when Jesus will "CHANGE" this Priesthood, and will become the High Priest Himself. (Jer. 31)

You use selected Word's of God, as did the serpent, to promote an agenda, a religion, which teach against obedience to God and His Instructions, as did the serpent. In this case His Sabbath.

You must do this because if you consider and use "EVERY" Word of God, your religious traditions would be exposed as coming from man and not from God. The Pharisees encountered the same problem.

Maybe you have been given this power by the Pope or Benny Hinn, or maybe it is self exaltation, I don't know. But one thing for sure, it didn't come from the Scriptures.

funny how you talk about something not being from Scripture. you say God told Abraham to keep the Law of Moses ( not in the text ), the thief on the cross next to Christ already knew and accepted Him as Lord ( not in the text ), and James told gentiles to go to synagogue and hear Moses ( not in the actual letter, and Philippi did not even have a synagogue ).

I prefer to actual use the text and not insert stuff into it.


on a personal note, truthers like you do far more harm than good, and those of us who are trying to wake folks up to the n w o and the technocracy they are setting up, and the only hope is Christ, you come along with all this non-Biblical non-sense, and put them right back to sleep.

 

[LoveGodForever]

this idea is wrong: in order to stay saved we must follow the written law by faith

this idea is correct: in order to stay saved we must look to Jesus*

is what's being presented


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posted from my phone, blessings!

Yes what you said was incorrect in order to stay saved we must look to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Matthew 11:28-29 King James Version (KJV)

28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
As soon as you come to Jesus you have rest.

say on Monday you come to Jesus, do you have to wait till Saturday to get rest?

Show me the verse where Jesus say, come to me and every Saturday I give you rest.

Not for those who continue in SIN. Those who continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN do not KNOW God and are like the troubled see untill they REPENT and CONFESS and FORSAKE they SINS.

Isaiah 57
20, But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
21, There is no peace (REST), said my God, to the wicked (SINNERS).

1 John 3
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Show me the verse where Jesus say, come to me and every Saturday I give you rest.

Certainly, you will not enter God's REST if you do not BELIEVE his WORD and you continue in SIN.

Hebrews 3
8, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9, When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10, Why I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11, So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.
12, Take heed, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13, But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14, For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end;
15, While it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16, For some, when they had heard, did provoke: however, not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17, But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcasses fell in the wilderness?
18, And to whom swore he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19, So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

WHAT REST ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?

Hebrews 4
1, Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2, For to us was the gospel preached, as well as to them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3, For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4, For he spoke in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5, And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

God's REST is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH REST OF CREATION (v4-5). Those who BELIEVE GOD's WORD enter into God's SABBATH REST as GOD does on the SEVENTH DAY of the week.
6, Seeing therefore it remains that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7, Again, he limits a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8, For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9, There remains a SABBATH REST to the people of God.
10, For he that is entered into his rest (SABBATH REST), he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11, Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Studyman]

yes, We shouldn't pull scripture out of context.

at the same time, we can't put a thousand words in each post, so some editing is necessary.

so, Galatians was written in response to something

probably a situation like this

Acts 15: 5. But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses." - Bible Offline

what did those men mean by The law of Moses?

they probably included the ten commandments

does Paul separate them back out in his letter?

If you would only accept that Paul is speaking to two different Laws in his letters.

The Law of Works = Levitical Priesthood duties and sacrificial ceremonies to address the remission of sins.

Law of Faith = Ten Commandments, definition of Holy, Clean, Righteous and unholy, unclean, unrighteous.

The Mainstream Preachers of that time did not accept that Jesus had the Authority to "CHANGE" the Priesthood so they continued furthering their version of the Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" they called "The Law of Moses".

These Mainstream Preachers were trying to push their religion on the New Converts in Acts 15, as well as "bewitch" the Galatians with their "works of the Law".

Peter and James knew of their traditions and doctrines which Jesus said were created from "Commandments of men". They would have been present with Jesus when He exposed them.

Matt. 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

And again;

Matt. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

So if we believe in the Son of God and His Word's, we would know that the Pharisees didn't teach the 10 commandments, but had created their own version of God's Laws.

This is why Peter rebuked them and why James directed them away from the Pharisees "which believed" and towards to true Commandments of God, and instructed them to continue learning from God when the Scribes read God's Word each Sabbath, which is exactly what Jesus instructed the Apostles to do in;

Matt. 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

 

[Studyman]

so, the idea is you must keep the (written?) law in order to be saved.

It's about what the Bible teaches Dan.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

All these thing are "Written Law". And for the people Paul is speaking of, these are washed, and set apart, and justified.

Set apart and sanctified for what? So you can continue to do the things you were washed of? So you can judge God and His Word? Create your own version of righteousness?

The Bible isn't about your religious traditions or doctrines Dan. It isn't about justifying your lifestyle. It's about how to become acceptable to God.

1 I beseech (Beg) you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.


2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

I know what the Pope says about God's Sabbaths. Joyce Meyer, Benny Hinn, Jimmy Swaggert, etc. I know what they preach about God's Sabbaths.

But Jesus warns over and over about being deceived by "MEN", who come in His Name. It's a no-brainer for me. Jesus created His Sabbath for men, I am a man, therefore He created it for me. He said to remember it, and to keep it Holy. He said it many times in the examples He had written for my admonition.

You are free to spend your days looking for justification for rejecting the Word's of God which go against your religious traditions. And as it is written, Jesus will make sure you find it.

My hope is that you might consider that maybe, just maybe, Jesus knew what He was doing when He created His Commandments for men.

 

[Studyman]

here's something that might relate

Acts 21: 21. They have been informed about you, that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children neither to walk after the customs. - Bible Offline

the concern is about what Paul is teaching the Jews

i see a strong implication that no one is concerned that Paul is not teaching the gentiles about the law

The Jews were upset because Paul, in teaching only those things which Moses and the Prophets did say would come, is exposing their religious traditions that Jesus said were from "Commandments of men". I think it is a mistake to imply that the Jews "custom" was following God's Laws.

 

[Studyman]

Not leave the others undone?

So yes, wear tzitzit? Yes, keep new moon? Yes, physically kill violators?

Or you neglect the ones you don't like, too?

You still have not told me where you found the Blood of Jesus to drink and the Flesh of Jesus to eat, which is required for you to be saved. The answer to your question lies in the answer to mine.


My guess is you won't answer because you really aren't really interested in understanding what these Words mean, rather, you are only interested in justifying your religious traditions.

 

[Studyman]

Salvation by works, i.e. command keeping, condemns everyone.

Please don't examine yourself.

When did "Command keeping" condemn anyone? Please show me in God's Word where a person which followed God's Instructions, including repentance, was condemned?

It is the rejection and disrespect and dishonor to God and His Word which causes condemnation, not respect, honor and obedience.

 

[Jackson123]

Not for those who continue in SIN. Those who continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN do not KNOW God and are like the troubled see untill they REPENT and CONFESS and FORSAKE they SINS.

Isaiah 57
20, But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
21, There is no peace (REST), said my God, to the wicked (SINNERS).

1 John 3
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.



Certainly, you will not enter God's REST if you do not BELIEVE his WORD and you continue in SIN.

Hebrews 3
8, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9, When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10, Why I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11, So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.
12, Take heed, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13, But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14, For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end;
15, While it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16, For some, when they had heard, did provoke: however, not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17, But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcasses fell in the wilderness?
18, And to whom swore he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19, So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

WHAT REST ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?

Hebrews 4
1, Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2, For to us was the gospel preached, as well as to them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3, For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4, For he spoke in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5, And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

God's REST is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH REST OF CREATION (v4-5). Those who BELIEVE GOD's WORD enter into God's SABBATH REST as GOD does on the SEVENTH DAY of the week.
6, Seeing therefore it remains that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7, Again, he limits a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8, For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9, There remains a SABBATH REST to the people of God.
10, For he that is entered into his rest (SABBATH REST), he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11, Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Dear,

what is unrepent?

unrepent is who follow man made sabbath law.

let me repeat one more time

one come to Jesus on Monday, did Jesus say:" I will give you rest but wait till Saturday, and only once a week, every Saturday.?"

sabbath th is a rest, and OT is shadow for Jesus.

if you not repent and follow man made law, you never have real rest, dear

repent now!

 

[PS]

When did "Command keeping" condemn anyone? Please show me in God's Word where a person which followed God's Instructions, including repentance, was condemned?

It is the rejection and disrespect and dishonor to God and His Word which causes condemnation, not respect, honor and obedience.

For 'command keeping' read 'law keeping' which nobody can fully keep, neither should they if commanded to kill by stoning, and are therefore condemned.

Following those laws will actually send you straight to Hell.

 

[Dan_473]

This idea you seem to have trouble with, that has been rejected by Cain and religious men throughout history, was first presented by Jesus.

Gen. 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

The whole purpose of the Gospel is to teach us to "do well". To "Repent" and change from doing our definition of righteousness, and turning to God's definition. Not what Cain thought was acceptable, or religious man. But what Jesus, the God of Abraham, thought was "Doing well".

It's an age old concept that "Many" will refuse to accept, as it is written.

we will be unsaved if we do the wrong thing, and not following the written law is doing the wrong thing

is the idea presented

 

[Studyman]

These are God's commandments that Jesus updated, about which he said, "If ye love me, keep my commandments." (Joh 14:15)

Saturday Sabbath is abolished.

The Pope abolished God's Sabbath that Jesus created for man and her daughters further the deception. Not Jesus, He said just the opposite.

Matt. 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

He hasn't returned yet so "ALL" has not been fulfilled.

This is another teaching Jesus specifically warned of, that is why He told this to me, He knew you would be teaching that Jesus came to "abolish" His Fathers Commandments.

Glory be to God, and His Son Jesus the Christ.

 

[Studyman]

we will be unsaved if we do the wrong thing, and not following the written law is doing the wrong thing

is the idea presented

I am presenting nothing, I am showing you what Jesus presented. He is the Author of my Faith and Salvation. He said "Many" would come in His Name and tell lies about Him. So I follow Him and His Words, not the doctrines and traditions created by men who, "Transgress the Commandments of God by their own religious traditions.

 

[Dan_473]

Yes what you said was incorrect in order to stay saved we must look to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.

if it is incorrect that in order to stay saved we must follow the written law by faith

then in order to stay saved we don't have to follow the written law by faith

is the idea presented

 

[Dan_473]

If you would only accept that Paul is speaking to two different Laws in his letters.

The Law of Works = Levitical Priesthood duties and sacrificial ceremonies to address the remission of sins.

Law of Faith = Ten Commandments, definition of Holy, Clean, Righteous and unholy, unclean, unrighteous.

The Mainstream Preachers of that time did not accept that Jesus had the Authority to "CHANGE" the Priesthood so they continued furthering their version of the Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" they called "The Law of Moses".

These Mainstream Preachers were trying to push their religion on the New Converts in Acts 15, as well as "bewitch" the Galatians with their "works of the Law".

Peter and James knew of their traditions and doctrines which Jesus said were created from "Commandments of men". They would have been present with Jesus when He exposed them.

Matt. 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

And again;

Matt. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

So if we believe in the Son of God and His Word's, we would know that the Pharisees didn't teach the 10 commandments, but had created their own version of God's Laws.

This is why Peter rebuked them and why James directed them away from the Pharisees "which believed" and towards to true Commandments of God, and instructed them to continue learning from God when the Scribes read God's Word each Sabbath, which is exactly what Jesus instructed the Apostles to do in;

Matt. 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

so in order to stay saved we must follow the ten commandments is what you believe?

any other written commandments in addition to those?