GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[Magenta]

I am presenting nothing, I am showing you what Jesus presented. He is the Author of my Faith and Salvation. He said "Many" would come in His Name and tell lies about Him. So I follow Him and His Words, not the doctrines and traditions created by men who, "Transgress the Commandments of God by their own religious traditions.

Working on the Sabbath was said to be a sin by those whom Jesus opposed. Jesus worked on the Sabbath, showing us it is not a sin, yet still the Sabbatarians present work on the Sabbath as a sin. Therefore, it is Sabbatarians who are following the traditions of men.

 

[Dan_473]

It's about what the Bible teaches Dan.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

All these thing are "Written Law". And for the people Paul is speaking of, these are washed, and set apart, and justified.

Set apart and sanctified for what? So you can continue to do the things you were washed of? So you can judge God and His Word? Create your own version of righteousness?

The Bible isn't about your religious traditions or doctrines Dan. It isn't about justifying your lifestyle. It's about how to become acceptable to God.

1 I beseech (Beg) you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.


2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

I know what the Pope says about God's Sabbaths. Joyce Meyer, Benny Hinn, Jimmy Swaggert, etc. I know what they preach about God's Sabbaths.

But Jesus warns over and over about being deceived by "MEN", who come in His Name. It's a no-brainer for me. Jesus created His Sabbath for men, I am a man, therefore He created it for me. He said to remember it, and to keep it Holy. He said it many times in the examples He had written for my admonition.

You are free to spend your days looking for justification for rejecting the Word's of God which go against your religious traditions. And as it is written, Jesus will make sure you find it.

My hope is that you might consider that maybe, just maybe, Jesus knew what He was doing when He created His Commandments for men.

so, as you read the bible, you must keep written laws, meaning the ten commandments plus some others, in order to be saved.

 

[Studyman]

For 'command keeping' read 'law keeping' which nobody can fully keep, neither should they if commanded to kill by stoning, and are therefore condemned.

Following those laws will actually send you straight to Hell.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Num. 14:23 Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:
24 But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.

Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

Again, your words prove to be from below, not above. These all followed God's Commands and their names are written in the Book of life.

But your preaching;

Gen. 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

So to obey God sends one to hell, but to reject God and follow the Pope sends one to heaven, and as the serpent claims, opens ones eyes. You are right on track with the Prophesies.

Is. 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

 

[Dan_473]

The Jews were upset because Paul, in teaching only those things which Moses and the Prophets did say would come, is exposing their religious traditions that Jesus said were from "Commandments of men". I think it is a mistake to imply that the Jews "custom" was following God's Laws.

there were believing Jews who were concerned that "you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children neither to walk after the customs."

 

[Dan_473]

I am presenting nothing, I am showing you what Jesus presented. He is the Author of my Faith and Salvation. He said "Many" would come in His Name and tell lies about Him. So I follow Him and His Words, not the doctrines and traditions created by men who, "Transgress the Commandments of God by their own religious traditions.

we will be unsaved if we do the wrong thing, and not following the written law is doing the wrong thing

is what you believe Jesus presented

 

[Studyman]

so, as you read the bible, you must keep written laws, meaning the ten commandments plus some others, in order to be saved.

As I said, I am furthering the Word's and teaching of Jesus who said;

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

I'm sorry if you can't comprehend His Word's. I am doing what I can to Love you as Jesus loved me,

 

[Joseppi]

Working on the Sabbath was said to be a sin by those whom Jesus opposed. Jesus worked on the Sabbath, showing us it is not a sin, yet still the Sabbatarians present work on the Sabbath as a sin. Therefore, it is Sabbatarians who are following the traditions of men.

What Jesus revealed is that the rest of God forbids the work of man, but doesn’t forbid the work of God. For the work of God is the labor of his love. And no law restricts the love of God in any way. For all the law hangs upon the two love commandments, proving those two are above and the law of Moses below.

 

[Studyman]

Working on the Sabbath was said to be a sin by those whom Jesus opposed. Jesus worked on the Sabbath, showing us it is not a sin, yet still the Sabbatarians present work on the Sabbath as a sin. Therefore, it is Sabbatarians who are following the traditions of men.

How much money did Jesus make for Himself when He worked on His Sabbath?

 

[Studyman]

there were believing Jews who were concerned that "you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children neither to walk after the customs."

You assume their customs were following God’s Laws. You have no evidence that this is true, and all kind of evidence that their “customs” were from man and not God, as Jesus said. What we do know is that their religion and the Gospel that Paul taught was nothing more than what Moses and the Prophets said would come, we’re not the same.

 

[Dan_473]

As I said, I am furthering the Word's and teaching of Jesus who said;

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

I'm sorry if you can't comprehend His Word's. I am doing what I can to Love you as Jesus loved me,

what I'm hearing is, "I don't want to talk about this anymore."

that's fine
we can just each post bible verses

 

[Dan_473]

You assume their customs were following God’s Laws. You have no evidence that this is true, and all kind of evidence that their “customs” were from man and not God, as Jesus said. What we do know is that their religion and the Gospel that Paul taught was nothing more than what Moses and the Prophets said would come, we’re not the same.

I'm not assuming anything about their customs

the part that caught my attention was "forsake Moses"

 

[Dan_473]

so, posting some scriptures

Deuteronomy 25: 5. If brothers dwell together, and one of them die, and have no son, the wife of the dead shall not be married outside to a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in to her, and take her to him as wife, and perform the duty of a husband's brother to her. - Bible Offline

is this a moral law?

 

[lightbearer]

Working on the Sabbath was said to be a sin by those whom Jesus opposed. Jesus worked on the Sabbath, showing us it is not a sin, yet still the Sabbatarians present work on the Sabbath as a sin. Therefore, it is Sabbatarians who are following the traditions of men.

What work. Spiritual; so as to further the kingdom, or physical in order to further his secular needs?

 

[Joseppi]

How much money did Jesus make for Himself when He worked on His Sabbath?

Why did Jesus work the work of God on the Sabbath day?

 

[Dan_473]

What work. Spiritual; so as to further the kingdom, or physical in order to further his secular needs?

if a missionary in a foreign land buys some food so that they will then have strength to peach the gospel in a nearby village, is that spiritual work or physical?

 

[PS]

What work. Spiritual; so as to further the kingdom, or physical in order to further his secular needs?

Neither. Simply practising what he preached, by helping others in love.

 

[PS]

Why did Jesus work the work of God on the Sabbath day?

Because God is love and He can.

 

[PS]

How much money did Jesus make for Himself when He worked on His Sabbath?

Love gives all and requires nothing.

 

[PS]

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

If only Moses had done the same instead of following his war god, issuing bad laws in the name of God, and killing thousands in opposition to the 6th commandment.

 

[Magenta]

How much money did Jesus make for Himself when He worked on His Sabbath?

Is that the measure of what constitutes work? Whether one is PAID for one's efforts? I have never seen it presented that way before. Why do you present it that way now?