“Again, you are in denial mode.”
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
Matthew 24:29-31 KJV
the elect eill be gathered immediately after the tribulation as the world ends when the sun goes dark and stars plummet
are you sure that he’s in denial about the ore tribulation rapture ? Given the lord himself agrees with his interpretation ?
I know we could quote several scripturesigfesting either way but isn’t what e lord said really super clear as a place to set our understanding and then branch out to Paul his witness ? Since you care about what he said specifically
who also taught the same “ rapture “ on the very last day Paul’s saying that some of the church will be alive and remaining when Christ returns so they couldn’t have been raptured
“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
Unless Christs return isn’t at the end after the tribulation then the “rapture “ happens upon his return in the end both the wicked and righteous are gathered
“So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”
Matthew 13:49-50 KJV
“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
Matthew 13:40-43 KJV
Christ will return and when he does it’s over then he will gather his people after all the tribulations which began 2600 years ago have passed
There really isn’t a stitch of pre trib raptire doctrine in the Bible or all is based on what Jesus said
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
Matthew 24:29-31 KJV
the elect eill be gathered immediately after the tribulation as the world ends when the sun goes dark and stars plummet
are you sure that he’s in denial about the ore tribulation rapture ? Given the lord himself agrees with his interpretation ?
I know we could quote several scripturesigfesting either way but isn’t what e lord said really super clear as a place to set our understanding and then branch out to Paul his witness ? Since you care about what he said specifically
who also taught the same “ rapture “ on the very last day Paul’s saying that some of the church will be alive and remaining when Christ returns so they couldn’t have been raptured
“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
Unless Christs return isn’t at the end after the tribulation then the “rapture “ happens upon his return in the end both the wicked and righteous are gathered
“So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”
Matthew 13:49-50 KJV
“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
Matthew 13:40-43 KJV
Christ will return and when he does it’s over then he will gather his people after all the tribulations which began 2600 years ago have passed
There really isn’t a stitch of pre trib raptire doctrine in the Bible or all is based on what Jesus said
Re read your foundation.
Angels gather....not Jesus.
They gather from heaven....not earth.
You have not presented ANYTHING resembling a postrib rapture
Zero