“There is a language of scripture, and it is not for us to make the rules or question it,”
So when Paul talks of the Day of Vengeance, the Day of the Lord, as a day of flaming fire,
how do we understand this?”
Does Jesus stand in the clouds with a flame-thrower?
Does he trigger some cosmic event like a comet that burns vast swathes of earth?
Does he supernaturally cause an atomic explosion of some sort?
Or does the flaming fire have a metaphorical meaning?
“I understand flaming fire as a metaphor that we find throughout scripture and it refers to the burning up worthless things”
Isn’t this all you questioning and answering as you yourself see it ? Or am I missing the point of what you are saying ? What are you saying about questioning a gods word and making up rules ?
I honestly don’t know what you are intending to say here so don’t know how to respond I don’t think I disagree with anything you wrote I just am not understanding your point
what I personally do to try to help
My own self understand what scripture is saying is letting scripture interpret scripture
so how should we interpret Jesus return and that day is the at what your saying ?
first I would go here to understand that it’s not a metophor
“Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
Acts 1:11 KJV
so we can then begin to see what scripture says about the day of his return knowing it is going to be in the same manner he was taken into heaven in sight of men
that’s then where I would start looking at Paul’s descriptions of that day as well as the source he’s bringing from in prophecy
“And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;”
2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 KJV
I’m not sure what you are saying I think that scripture is pretty plain in determining how we should understand things.
I believe there is a spiritual and literal aspect to everything because creation has both aspects heaven and earth
So when Paul talks of the Day of Vengeance, the Day of the Lord, as a day of flaming fire,
how do we understand this?”
Does Jesus stand in the clouds with a flame-thrower?
Does he trigger some cosmic event like a comet that burns vast swathes of earth?
Does he supernaturally cause an atomic explosion of some sort?
Or does the flaming fire have a metaphorical meaning?
“I understand flaming fire as a metaphor that we find throughout scripture and it refers to the burning up worthless things”
Isn’t this all you questioning and answering as you yourself see it ? Or am I missing the point of what you are saying ? What are you saying about questioning a gods word and making up rules ?
I honestly don’t know what you are intending to say here so don’t know how to respond I don’t think I disagree with anything you wrote I just am not understanding your point
what I personally do to try to help
My own self understand what scripture is saying is letting scripture interpret scripture
so how should we interpret Jesus return and that day is the at what your saying ?
first I would go here to understand that it’s not a metophor
“Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
Acts 1:11 KJV
so we can then begin to see what scripture says about the day of his return knowing it is going to be in the same manner he was taken into heaven in sight of men
that’s then where I would start looking at Paul’s descriptions of that day as well as the source he’s bringing from in prophecy
“And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;”
2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 KJV
I’m not sure what you are saying I think that scripture is pretty plain in determining how we should understand things.
I believe there is a spiritual and literal aspect to everything because creation has both aspects heaven and earth
the language of the Bible is very spiritual (our bodies are the temple of God - and God is spirit) but for physical people written by spiritual people, inspired by God... to help people become more and more -- spiritual.
if ever anything in the Bible is not plain to all who read it then it could be because -- 1) it is not the original we are reading (somehow not quite right wording, added verses, ect.), 2) we are not yet aware of the true -est meaning yet and need to greatly seek truth over any and all errors and man- decided ideas.
"you must become as a child to enter the kingdom of heaven."
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