2 Timothy 3 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

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John146

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I see you reached the end and came up empty.
I believe Scripture just as it states. God did not lie to Nineveh to get them to repent. God cannot lie. End of story.
 
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I believe Scripture just as it states. God did not lie to Nineveh to get them to repent. God cannot lie. End of story.
He didn't lie. He motivated them to repent. If he meant as you say, he would have just blasted them without warning.
 

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I prefer a Bible believer, every word as written. I’m not quite sure what an open theist believes.
You're being disingenuous, you yourself teach and are an open theist. The only reason you're being covert is fear of banning, as prior to the public warning you were out in the open about it. Now you're trying to hide it and you know it.

"God", according to you, does not know all things, is not omniscient, and learns. You embrace this heresy. Own up.
 

John146

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He didn't lie. He motivated them to repent. If he meant as you say, he would have just blasted them without warning.
God never blasts without warning. This is why He sent Jonah. Jonah’s message was against them. It was not a good news message. It was a message of destruction.
 

John146

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You're being disingenuous, you yourself teach and are an open theist.
I really have never heard of this term before coming on this forum and I’m still not sure or don’t care what one is.
 

John146

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You're being disingenuous, you yourself teach and are an open theist. The only reason you're being covert is fear of banning, as prior to the public warning you were out in the open about it. Now you're trying to hide it and you know it.

"God", according to you, does not know all things, is not omniscient, and learns. You embrace this heresy. Own up.
Own up, you also have dodged the story of God and Nineveh. It does not fit your theology. You have to add words to the story to make it fit.
 
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God never blasts without warning. This is why He sent Jonah. Jonah’s message was against them. It was not a good news message. It was a message of destruction.
How about Sodom and Gomorrah?
 

John146

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How about the Canaanites?
What about Nineveh? Did God know ahead of time they would repent, and in turn He would not destroy them? If you say yes, you’d be calling God a liar.
 
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What about Nineveh? Did God know ahead of time they would repent, and in turn He would not destroy them? If you say yes, you’d be calling God a liar.
God knows the end from the beginning because he created all. So you are calling God a liar by my saying that.
 
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God never blasts without warning. This is why He sent Jonah. Jonah’s message was against them. It was not a good news message. It was a message of destruction.

It was good news as God worked in them to both will and do his good pleasure. Therefore the destruction did not come.

The work of the gospel removes us from the place of destruction to the city of refuge. Just as it moved Jonas against his will.

He is more powerful then us. If we wrestle against him he will overcome.
 

John146

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God knows the end from the beginning because he created all. So you are calling God a liar by my saying that.
What does God know from the beginning? The END. We do to now that we have God’s Revelation.
 

John146

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It was good news as God worked in them to both will and do his good pleasure. Therefore the destruction did not come.

The work of the gospel removes us from the place of destruction to the city of refuge. Just as it moved Jonas against his will.

He is more powerful then us. If we wrestle against him he will overcome.
There was no gospel being preached. The message was clear, “yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overthrown.”
 
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God caused them to repent. If he wanted to destroy them he wouldn't have used vocal means to affect the outcome.

Amen... If he wanted to destroy them we would not be having this conversation.

God is not served by human hand as a will .

He tossed Jonas into the sea of judgement and by reason of the sufferings of hell he cried out to the our father and was strengthened three times. Then God vomited him out on dry hand, right on schedule and moved his feet as a apostle. He dragged Jonas to perform his good work. After the city was not destroyed Jonas wanted to die.

No man can come unless he does the dragging .Some kick against the pricks the prompting of the Spirit less then others. Some have calloused feet and walk on fire in danger of leprously .

A lesson from Jonah to us. When angry at God who works in us and if we we look to blame people . We should remember it is God who works in us with us to do his good pleasure. Never know a person could be entertaining as a stranger. A believer with a message of the gospel? He might have some bread to share or share each others, a answer to prayer. .


closing that with no mururing like Jonas . Murrueing caused the fall . when mankind did the will of another

4 Then the Lord said, “Do you think it is right for you to be angry?”
 
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There was no gospel being preached. The message was clear, “yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overthrown.”
It moved then to believe. That was the gospel the hearing of faith, Christ's understanding not of themselves the Ninevites "faithless". . Men hearing God's understanding working in them not seen. It worked in them causing them to repent. The work of the comforter. .

Repentance is a work of God not seen giving a person another person to repent to other than self then together can be comforted being of the same family.

I am reminded of portion of scripture that I think best summarizes the power of the gospel from faith to faith . Paul speaks of the mutual faith of Christ that works in all the source of our comfort that does turn us when we sin to that then after being turned we in turn can comfort ourselves bearing the shame of our childish attitudes.

For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me. Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles. I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise. So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Romans 1:11-16
 

Dino246

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God is not served by human hand as a will .
What do you mean, "as a will"?

He tossed Jonas into the sea of judgement and by reason of the sufferings of hell he cried out to the our father and was strengthened three times.
Where does it say that Jonah was strengthened three times?

Then God vomited him out on dry hand
Where does it say that God vomited Jonah?

Some have calloused feet and walk on fire in danger of leprously .
"Leprously"? Do you mean "leprosy"? Do you know what leprosy is and how it affects the body?

Murrueing caused the fall .
What is "murrueing"?

Perhaps you should proofread your writing before posting, and spare the rest of us at least some of the confusion.
 

Dino246

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Repentance is a work of God not seen giving a person another person to repent to other than self then together can be comforted being of the same family.
Once again, in English this time?