do You all agree that Todd Bentley is unbiblical?

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Consumed

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Todd bentley was here in Australia few years ago, got invited to go to one of his meetings. I was appalled that he said "tonight God is going to heal people how ever the healing is linked to your giving, if you are expecting a miracle it is tied in to how much you give, give little dont expect alot" needless to say that is when I left the meeting, it only just started and i heard enough.

He brought a new meaning to lambs being led to the slaughter I thought.
 
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EverlastingChange

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"And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you.." - 2 Peter 2:3; I think these words haven't been more true than in these days.
 
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Crossfire

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Bentley was / is a hyper spiritual heretic. However, you can not or must not allow the bad deeds of one person influence your perception of an entire people group. Not all charismatics are hyper spiritual nut jobs just as not all who believe in once saved always saved are engrossed in serious habitual sin.
 
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Bentley was / is a hyper spiritual heretic. However, you can not or must not allow the bad deeds of one person influence your perception of an entire people group. Not all charismatics are hyper spiritual nut jobs just as not all who believe in once saved always saved are engrossed in serious habitual sin.
no they pretty much are from eveything ive seen
 
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Crossfire

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no they pretty much are from eveything ive seen
Would it be an accurate assessment that everyone in your church or denomination is judgmental based on the fact that you choose to judge hundreds of thousand if not millions based on the few that you have encountered in your life time?
 
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sure if you want, but show me a charismatic who doesnt flop around like an epileptic and 'claim' he is 'slain in the spirit' or one that doesnt babble nonsense and 'claim' its 'speaking in tongues'. The minute charismatics stop making a mockery of things, ill stop saying the are all crazy. Though whats the difference in judging one person vs. one denomination? Pretty ironic I get called out on judging by the poster who said Bentley was and i quote "a hyper spiritual heretic." Not that I know or care who bentley is, he sounds like all the rest of that lot.
 
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Crossfire

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sure if you want, but show me a charismatic who doesnt flop around like an epileptic and 'claim' he is 'slain in the spirit' or one that doesnt babble nonsense and 'claim' its 'speaking in tongues'. The minute charismatics stop making a mockery of things, ill stop saying the are all crazy. Though whats the difference in judging one person vs. one denomination? Pretty ironic I get called out on judging by the poster who said Bentley was and i quote "a hyper spiritual heretic." Not that I know or care who bentley is, he sounds like all the rest of that lot.

Can I ask you, how does your current attitude toward these people represent God's love for them? Let's assume for a moment that they are lost, how is ridiculing them for their behavior going to win them over to the truth as you perceive it? Given your ridicule of them do you think that they would ever take you seriously if you ever attempted to minister to them? Or would you rather believe that they are a wothless cause unworthy of God's love and grace? What made you judge, jury and executioner?

The difference between what you did and what I did is simple. I can prove by Bentleys personal actions (fruit) that he is indeed a false prophet. You on the other hand are condemning millions based on entirely a set of beliefs that, while they may contradict your own, has every bit of scriptural validity as your own.
 

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Can I ask you, how does your current attitude toward these people represent God's love for them? Let's assume for a moment that they are lost, how is ridiculing them for their behavior going to win them over to the truth as you perceive it? Given your ridicule of them do you think that they would ever take you seriously if you ever attempted to minister to them? Or would you rather believe that they are a wothless cause unworthy of God's love and grace? What made you judge, jury and executioner?

The difference between what you did and what I did is simple. I can prove by Bentleys personal actions (fruit) that he is indeed a false prophet. You on the other hand are condemning millions based on entirely a set of beliefs that, while they may contradict your own, has every bit of scriptural validity as your own.
ANYONE claiming to be a prophet is false.
there are no more.
 
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Crossfire

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Did he repent or not?
Yes he did repent however, he later married the woman that he was caught in adultery with. According to scripture Bentley's wife had biblical grounds for divorce. Bentley himself did not.
 
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ANYONE claiming to be a prophet is false.
there are no more.

Yes there are lots of them. Not that it makes any difference to you cause you don't believe lots of the bible. But in the old days prophets were used because the Holy Spirit only talked to a few people. But thank God the Holy Spirit lives in his people and they hear from him all the time. They get messages all the time. A prophet is no big deal. Very common place amongst Christians. I think a big problems is lots of people think of a prophet and they think of them telling of some big major event that is going to happen. Like earthquake. Or they think of them as magical. When one thinks of a prophet more should think along the lines of they get abused by people.

I did hear of some person who some said was a great prophet who said something real big was going to happen June 5th past. Never heard anymore. Did anyone hear of that?

Have a good day zone! I'm taking my pearls with me.
 
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Yes there are lots of them. Not that it makes any difference to you cause you don't believe lots of the bible. But in the old days prophets were used because the Holy Spirit only talked to a few people. But thank God the Holy Spirit lives in his people and they hear from him all the time. They get messages all the time. A prophet is no big deal. Very common place amongst Christians. I think a big problems is lots of people think of a prophet and they think of them telling of some big major event that is going to happen. Like earthquake. Or they think of them as magical. When one thinks of a prophet more should think along the lines of they get abused by people.

I did hear of some person who some said was a great prophet who said something real big was going to happen June 5th past. Never heard anymore. Did anyone hear of that?

Have a good day zone! I'm taking my pearls with me.
WOW you are quite determined that prophets are alive and preaching today aren't you Linda.
Seriously GIVE ME EXAMPLES!
JUST ONE!
Being endowed with the Holy Spirit does not make you a prophet. Very fortunate perhaps but the gift of prophecy was sealed up after the apostle John was given his vision of the end times in the LAST book of the bible.
So far as your pearls are concerned keep them I would sooner be swine in heaven than the wealthiest man in the world!

SELAH
 
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Anne

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The bible does say:
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

From what I've heard Todd Bentely say re: Angels that speak to him and how he ministers violently to people, asking for monies for healings ought to cause any believer great concern regarding this "minister".
From what we read of Jesus' ministry to the sick, the hungry, lame etc... He reached out in love, He did not use violence as means of healing others, thus afflicting upon them injury. How many have left one of Todd Bentley's meetings having been prayed for suffering some type of injury from these so called healing sessions??? I would be sure to warn other Christians from going to his meetings, having nothing to do with him, this is nothing but the acts of seducing spirits.

There are many out there today who's "preaching" does not line up to the Word of God, Beware of them for they are deceiving spirits wanting to lead others astray by their false teachings. There are other so called "ministers" which are no more than ministers of men not God who stand behind and with Todd Bentley such as Rick Joyner beware of them also.
We musn't be silent in warning the Body of Christ of these false teachers, preachers among us whose goal it is to deceive many.
Let us be those who would help to encourage the Body of Christ to adhere to sound doctrine, if it is not written in the Word of God do not believe it.
 
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Todd Bentley is not the issue. Christ is the issue and people are lost and they need to hear the gospel. Go preach the gospel and get occupied with what God has called you to do. Go preach Christ and Him crucified. Go and make disciples and teach them the word. Go and minister the grace of God's salvation and keep doing it the rest of your life and never quit and never give up. Thank God for every pastor and believer that preaches the gospel, pray for them and obey what they teach and stop examining everything they preach all the time just because you don't like how it effects your flesh. We are to walk by faith in the love and grace of God and if we don't, we are unbiblical. Do you agree to that?
 
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U goota understand first da tod is just a human lyk u n me God exposed him of the things tha was wrong,n now I think itd b unbiblical if we gossip abt him(righteous gossip)...
I was deeply sad n I pray God would convict many ppl in this site some even right good thead n coment n yet practise online sex thru this site,iwas really shocked wen a lady was cryin abt how c got involved into this online lust cuz of CC guys,c named someguys n couldnt beleive it ..i dont name ppl so yea..we need toeximine our lives,we need toread,his word we need to pray,that Christianity just don become a show but a real thing
If tods repented hez repented y fish something tha he will hav todeal for the rest of his life
 

zone

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Yes there are lots of them. Not that it makes any difference to you cause you don't believe lots of the bible. But in the old days prophets were used because the Holy Spirit only talked to a few people. But thank God the Holy Spirit lives in his people and they hear from him all the time. They get messages all the time. A prophet is no big deal. Very common place amongst Christians. I think a big problems is lots of people think of a prophet and they think of them telling of some big major event that is going to happen. Like earthquake. Or they think of them as magical. When one thinks of a prophet more should think along the lines of they get abused by people.

I did hear of some person who some said was a great prophet who said something real big was going to happen June 5th past. Never heard anymore. Did anyone hear of that?

Have a good day zone! I'm taking my pearls with me.
you don't have any.
 
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shiner500

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Todd Bentley is not the issue. Christ is the issue and people are lost and they need to hear the gospel. Go preach the gospel and get occupied with what God has called you to do. Go preach Christ and Him crucified. Go and make disciples and teach them the word. Go and minister the grace of God's salvation and keep doing it the rest of your life and never quit and never give up. Thank God for every pastor and believer that preaches the gospel, pray for them and obey what they teach and stop examining everything they preach all the time just because you don't like how it effects your flesh. We are to walk by faith in the love and grace of God and if we don't, we are unbiblical. Do you agree to that?
I don't understand what you are trying to say.sorry
 
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shiner500

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U goota understand first da tod is just a human lyk u n me God exposed him of the things tha was wrong,n now I think itd b unbiblical if we gossip abt him(righteous gossip)...
I was deeply sad n I pray God would convict many ppl in this site some even right good thead n coment n yet practise online sex thru this site,iwas really shocked wen a lady was cryin abt how c got involved into this online lust cuz of CC guys,c named someguys n couldnt beleive it ..i dont name ppl so yea..we need toeximine our lives,we need toread,his word we need to pray,that Christianity just don become a show but a real thing
If tods repented hez repented y fish something tha he will hav todeal for the rest of his life
did Todd Bentley repent of his violent healing or something?
 
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Crossfire

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Todd Bentley is not the issue. Christ is the issue and people are lost and they need to hear the gospel. Go preach the gospel and get occupied with what God has called you to do. Go preach Christ and Him crucified. Go and make disciples and teach them the word. Go and minister the grace of God's salvation and keep doing it the rest of your life and never quit and never give up. Thank God for every pastor and believer that preaches the gospel, pray for them and obey what they teach and stop examining everything they preach all the time just because you don't like how it effects your flesh. We are to walk by faith in the love and grace of God and if we don't, we are unbiblical. Do you agree to that?
Amen to that. The only way to truly combat the wolves is to become shepherds willing to lay our lives down for the flock. I see a lot of people crying wolf but they do so from a safe distance.