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zone

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Interview 409 – Wayne Madsen

Posted by Corbett

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Today we talk to investigative journalist Wayne Madsen of WayneMadsenReport.com about his new article, “War Clouds Form over Iran,” detailing the latest indications that Washington is heading to open confrontation with Iran at the behest of Israel. We discuss the signs that a war with Iran is being prepared, talk about Israel’s interest in confronting Iran and explore how the Israeli lobby is attempting to stop any opposition to the strike.

from The Corbett Report
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-409-wayne-madsen/

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this is only 15 mins or so long.
i already knew this stuff, and have been posting on it since i got here.
this interview is nothing new. but maybe you will listen.

its just that EVERYBODY except evangelicals and particularly scofieldian/christian zionist sects knows the truth.

we really have to wake up. stop the denial.
it's time, church.

tomorrow i'll open a new and document what is said in this interview (have already done it many times)
if you listen, do your own follow up.

- AIPAC
- Wahhabism ("extremist isalm") - House of Saud is jewish, created by Britain....assisted by israeli controlled US.
- Arab Spring is israel regional takeover
etc etc etc

on and on.

below is the plan, that's why our armies are there.....but its time to pull the plug on us now.
come on folks....let's get honest.
are we Christians?

we're getting short on time.




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JESUS CHRIST IS LORD AND GOD
Amen.

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(i couldn't care less how many scoffers ridicule me....you're on your own)
 
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CrimsonFlames

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The plan for greater Israel

England is pulling all the strings and its partner in crime is the Vatican., people will see this one day. Yes., England even controls the US and Israel

England has never ceased from its imperialistic march., it simply changed to covert tactics. It does this on behalf of the Vatican
 
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yea, i'm christian. and when i go to heaven; i cannot wait to give jesus a hug and thank him for what he has done for me and the rest of us
 
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Interview 409 – Wayne Madsen

Posted by Corbett

Podcast: Play in new window | Download


Today we talk to investigative journalist Wayne Madsen of WayneMadsenReport.com about his new article, “War Clouds Form over Iran,” detailing the latest indications that Washington is heading to open confrontation with Iran at the behest of Israel. We discuss the signs that a war with Iran is being prepared, talk about Israel’s interest in confronting Iran and explore how the Israeli lobby is attempting to stop any opposition to the strike.

from The Corbett Report
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-409-wayne-madsen/

~

this is only 15 mins or so long.
i already knew this stuff, and have been posting on it since i got here.
this interview is nothing new. but maybe you will listen.

its just that EVERYBODY except evangelicals and particularly scofieldian/christian zionist sects knows the truth.

we really have to wake up. stop the denial.
it's time, church.

tomorrow i'll open a new and document what is said in this interview (have already done it many times)
if you listen, do your own follow up.

- AIPAC
- Wahhabism ("extremist isalm") - House of Saud is jewish, created by Britain....assisted by israeli controlled US.
- Arab Spring is israel regional takeover
etc etc etc

on and on.

below is the plan, that's why our armies are there.....but its time to pull the plug on us now.
come on folks....let's get honest.
are we Christians?

we're getting short on time.




~

JESUS CHRIST IS LORD AND GOD
Amen.

~

(i couldn't care less how many scoffers ridicule me....you're on your own)
Why Zone of Confusion, do you NOT spare the the people of YOUR JUDGEMENT, and HELP people through The Word of GOD, and NOT SO & SO"S (some MAN"S explaination of it)

SO WHAT! about ALL this political & religious CRAP.

IF, you KNEW The Word of GOD, you would KNOW their coming ANYWAY"S, BIG DEAL :p
 
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Well that really helped...im sure. what was the text again that came from?
 
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Why Zone of Confusion, do you NOT spare the the people of YOUR JUDGEMENT, and HELP people through The Word of GOD, and NOT SO & SO"S (some MAN"S explaination of it)

SO WHAT! about ALL this political & religious CRAP.

IF, you KNEW The Word of GOD, you would KNOW their coming ANYWAY"S, BIG DEAL :p
She is trying to help people and your attacks upon her are unwarranted.., the only person here who is confused is you obviously! If you dont understand ask for an explanation., dont attack her for speaking the truth
 

zone

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The plan for greater Israel

England is pulling all the strings and its partner in crime is the Vatican., people will see this one day. Yes., England even controls the US and Israel

England has never ceased from its imperialistic march., it simply changed to covert tactics. It does this on behalf of the Vatican
British Israelism
British Israelism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vatican
Rothschild family
 
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tribesman

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...but its time to pull the plug on us now. come on folks....let's get honest. are we Christians? we're getting short on time.
Sis zone, I might have missed something here. Not withstanding the need to keep oneself updated in the world we live in and mind the ever more inconvenient effects of the antichristian powers at work, but isn't this mainly for the futurist crowd? I find it more needed than ever to "navigate" the Word of God and present sound doctrine with sober judgment. There are a lot of theories out there, good teaching is more rare.
 

zone

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Sis zone, I might have missed something here. Not withstanding the need to keep oneself updated in the world we live in and mind the ever more inconvenient effects of the antichristian powers at work, but isn't this mainly for the futurist crowd? I find it more needed than ever to "navigate" the Word of God and present sound doctrine with sober judgment. There are a lot of theories out there, good teaching is more rare.
we can do both cant we?:)

its all connected.
the leaven comes from somewhere.

teach the truth. let's do it.
and when futurism injects itself (and it does every day) - we counter with exegesis and what's happening in the world. presumably because we love the truth and each other. i.e: is Jesus reigning now? is the Kingdom on hold? did He pay the price already or not?

i agree totally that navigating the word of God is the primary task.
there are bad heremeneutics that get in the way continually. expected.
strongholds.
i'm multi-tasking.
love you.
 

zone

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Do you know who Cecil Rhodes was Zone? And his Round Table Group?

Understanding where Cecil Rhodes comes into the picture dynamically changes your understanding of what is going on in the world. Although you seem to on the ball with or without this link of the chain :)
ya. simplistically, fast forwarding, they set up the UN and stuff. all the ngo systems.
one worldism. reality for us today. a giant gulag.
we're living through it.

my concern is that the planned 3rd ww (to finally 'end all wars') is at the door. its not the war i'm primarily concerned with (can't stop it) - its our spiritual understanding of what is happening so we are not partakers/complicit in it.
 

tribesman

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...my concern is that the planned 3rd ww (to finally 'end all wars') is at the door. its not the war i'm primarily concerned with (can't stop it) - its our spiritual understanding of what is happening so we are not partakers/complicit in it.
Just asking you if you believe in the coming of an incarnate antichrist (or the beast 666) or if you hold to that the prophecies about the mark of the beast and the dreaded tribulation has actually already been fulfilled?

As you might know there are some pretty good arguments for that most of the would be future events of Revelation was fulfilled in or around AD70.

The way I see it is that the only "eschatological" main prophecy that has not been fulifilled yet is the Lord's return. That is what I believe should be the focus as for future events.

GB.
 
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Been watching the Iran situation for a while. It's getting tense... And I won't even bother with the person up there ^^ saying the Vatican is part of this....
 

zone

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Just asking you if you believe in the coming of an incarnate antichrist (or the beast 666) or if you hold to that the prophecies about the mark of the beast and the dreaded tribulation has actually already been fulfilled?

As you might know there are some pretty good arguments for that most of the would be future events of Revelation was fulfilled in or around AD70.

The way I see it is that the only "eschatological" main prophecy that has not been fulifilled yet is the Lord's return. That is what I believe should be the focus as for future events.

GB.
no, i am partial preterist, not full.
 

zone

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Been watching the Iran situation for a while. It's getting tense... And I won't even bother with the person up there ^^ saying the Vatican is part of this....
ya the iran thing...that's just the start.

its based on a corrupted belief system by people who reject Jesus, yet hold to a Talmudic worldview which says God has this LAND thing in mind - and Dominion...faith in Jesus doesn't seem to matter. "Plan A" is apparently what matters.

the vatican is in on it - infiltrated long ago, though the internal struggle goes on.
the people don't know.
same thing in most churches.
and they are certainly all under assault.
take the' new apostles' in evangelicalism for example >> plants...for a "Purpose"

its about worldly Dominion. but that's what this was always about.

example:

The Business of the Kingdom
Management guru Peter Drucker thinks the future of America is in the hands of churches.
by Tim Stafford | posted 11/15/1999 12:00AM
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/1999/november15/9td042.html?start=8


Peter Drucker, the Kabbalah, and Total Quality Management (TQM)
Communitarians refer to the creation of a world government as the effort to create a “healthy society.”The goal of the church growth movement (CGM) is to manipulate Christians and churches into this healthy society.“Health-based” language is sometimes used in the CGM.Some church growth leaders desire “healthy churches” and “healthy congregations” made up of “healthy Christians.”A healthy church would be one in which all members are willing to compromise the Word of God for the common good.

Communitarianism, Amitai Etzioni, and the Kabbalah
Communitarianism is a “Third Way” compromise between Capitalism and Communism.Communitarianism is not Fascism nor is it Communism, but a synthesis of these opposing ideologies which preceded it.It draws government-business partnerships from Fascism and employs group decision-making from Communism.Communitarianism will resemble a corporate state (Fascism) in which the elite will work under capitalist rules to continue generating wealth while the working class will be controlled by Communist model laws.The Communitarian synthesis incorporates not only elements of Fascism and Communism, but also Globalism.
http://www.thirdgreatawakening.org/communitarianism.htm


Rick Warren:
"Peter Drucker ... he's my mentor. I've spent 20 years under his tutelage learning about leadership from him."
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/pewreligion.htm


Jonathan Eybeschutz
(Kraków 1690 - Altona 1764), was a Talmudist, Halachist, Kabbalist, holding positions as Dayan of Prague, and later as Rabbi of the "Three Communities": Altona, Hamburg and Wandsbek. With Jacob Emden, he is well known as a protagonist in the Emden-Eybeschütz Controversy.
Biography
Eybeschütz's father was the rabbi in Ivančice (German: Eibenschütz, sometimes Eibeschutz), Moravia. Eybeschütz was a child prodigy in Talmud; on his father's death, he studied in the yeshiva of Meir Eisenstadt in Prostějov (Prossnitz), and then later in Holešov (Holleschau). He also lived in Vienna for a short time. He married Elkele Spira, daughter of Rabbi Isaac Spira, and they lived in Hamburg for two years with Mordecai ha-Kohen, Elkele's maternal grandfather. Among their descendents are the illustrious management thinker Peter Drucker .....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Eybesch%C3%BCtz

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so its just about a RELIGION that happens to be driving things.
that's all.

if we just understand that religion isn't connected to Jesus at all, we're doing well.
i don't support it or want to become complicit in the acting out of it.
 
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tribesman

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no, i am partial preterist, not full.
So I am. I don't believe that the Lord's return has occurred yet, neither the resurrection of the dead.

But what is your take on the beast and his mark, the great harlot being Jerusalem, the end of the world, the great tribulation?

Personally I think there's much arguments for that these (at least in the judgment of Jerusalem and all events related to it) having been fulfilled.
 

zone

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So I am. I don't believe that the Lord's return has occurred yet, neither the resurrection of the dead.

But what is your take on the beast and his mark, the great harlot being Jerusalem, the end of the world, the great tribulation?

Personally I think there's much arguments for that these (at least in the judgment of Jerusalem and all events related to it) having been fulfilled.
but a far one (global) still to come.
a head received a deadly wound.
but its back to life.

Moriah and the system.
the Sanhedrin reappeared in 2004 after all this time.
they have a plan.
"Rome" is helping again.

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that's my reading.
and events line up.
 

tribesman

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but a far one (global) still to come.
a head received a deadly wound.
but its back to life.

Moriah and the system.
the Sanhedrin reappeared in 2004 after all this time.
they have a plan.
"Rome" is helping again.

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that's my reading.
and events line up.
I used to believe in a coming beast 666, I am somewhat doubtful about that today. Yet it stands to reason that the Word of God may prove itself true in every generation.

The same babylonic system (kabbalism/false judaism) operates today as well as in ancient days, now on a literally worldwide scale with ambitions to gain world dominance and control. Facts.

But fulfilling already fulfilled prophecies again? Another table. Food for thought.

Anyways, as I see it, the focus in this field must be the Lord's return.