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zone

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i'm afraid its true diggs.
the NeoCons - US/Israel/Britian/France & Canada in on it.

to go to perpetual M.E. war for Talmudic Greater Israel, and clamp US/N.A.'s in irons at home.
total poverty and totalitarianism coming.
forgot to add Saudis (and misc others) who are actually ashkenazi jews (turkic converts/gentiles, not really jews).
Bin Laden scam etc.....its a giant ugly joke planned a long time ago.
all the false flags are done by the same guys.

Muslim Brotherhood is same: fake. Al Quaeda: fake (CIA/Israel)

blame it on the Talmud. British-Israelism....people think they're Hebrews...heirs to the THRONE OF DAVID.
 
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I find it Ironic that article you posted is titled "war clouds from Iran" I made a post two months ago, before the news even brought up Israel heading into Iran about how the world shall see horrible clouds. It was placed in my heart to warn man of what is coming, a total annihilation of man kind which they will inflict upon one another. 2 Esdras 15 talks about "horrible" clouds very frightening to look upon, and the "star". The prophet Ezra/Esdra called the nukes a "star" because the fire was so bright it looked like a star, and it produced frightening clouds. Surely the end is here, and the world shall see the "real" Jews gathered up.
 
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This thread is a joke and a slap in the face to every American on this website.

Insisting that 911 was a Zionist ploy by the Israeli and American governments to eliminate Israel's enemies in the Middle East. Ludicrous!

I'm not sure what color Kool-aid that the Amillennialists on this board are drinking, the flavor is obviously "ANTISEMITE".

I pray that Ron Paul, an Amillennial racist, is never elected as President of the United States.

 
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This thread is a joke and a slap in the face to every American on this website.

Insisting that 911 was a Zionist ploy by the Israeli and American governments to eliminate Israel's enemies in the Middle East. Ludicrous!

I'm not sure what color Kool-aid that the Amillennialists on this board are drinking, the flavor is obviously "ANTISEMITE".
Whenever I read the plots the conspiracy theorists are posting about, I am reminded of the film "A Beautiful Mind" where you see the descent of John Nash, a brilliant mathematician, into paranoid schizophrenia, seeing phantom people with their schemes everywhere they go and plotting huge charts linking dozens of diverse groups to dozens of others on huge boards hidden away in a room somewhere.

The extent to which reality is becoming a fluid concept to some people who are unaware of Occam's Razor is quite startling. We quite literally had someone post in that regard that the current Pope is Jewish. So, the next time someone says "Is the Pope Catholic?" expecting a yes response, I guess now we can all say no! o.o

It's getting to the point where someone can post how they just enjoyed a wonderful Chinese dinner at a restaurant somewhere, and you'd get a buzzword-filled post that looks like "Japanese under Zionist conspiracy destabilized China Jewish Talmudic Hassidic provocateurs turned China communist and your dinner funded the Rothchilds, Rockefeller, the NWO Pharasitic false holocaust control the media 9/11 Zionist Jewish controlled MSM."
 

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Why Zone of Confusion, do you NOT spare the the people of YOUR JUDGEMENT, and HELP people through The Word of GOD, and NOT SO & SO"S (some MAN"S explaination of it)

SO WHAT! about ALL this political & religious CRAP.

IF, you KNEW The Word of GOD, you would KNOW their coming ANYWAY"S, BIG DEAL :p
SO WHAT??.. Believe me you will be asked someday what you have done against it.
Or whether you are one of those war supporting pseudo christian zionists
being a member of those wealthy prosperity mega churches supporting israels
imperialistic cruel war politic.

Because you know blessed are the peace makers!
Whom would Jesus bomb?

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
 
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"Who are you to condemn someone else's servants? Their own master will judge whether they stand or fall. And with the Lord's help, they will stand and receive his approval." - ROMANS 14:4 NLT
 

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"Who are you to condemn someone else's servants? Their own master will judge whether they stand or fall. And with the Lord's help, they will stand and receive his approval." - ROMANS 14:4 NLT
Bible-thumping again.:rolleyes:

The context of that scripture deals with fasting/eating. What has that to do with the topic here?
 

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This thread is a joke and a slap in the face to every American on this website.
uh....huh?
do you speak for every "american"?
if so, we're in worse trouble than i thought.

Insisting that 911 was a Zionist ploy by the Israeli and American governments to eliminate Israel's enemies in the Middle East. Ludicrous!
you're a great "prophet" and you don't know these things?

suckers are always the last to know. go back to sleep.

I'm not sure what color Kool-aid that the Amillennialists on this board are drinking, the flavor is obviously "ANTISEMITE".
ROTFLMHO!
amillennialism has anything to do with 9-11?
mkay.

"ANTISEMITE"

take a number. or come back tomorrow.
all sold out.

you PC cowards are a joke.

send trillions of $$, over a decade to 12 countries, to drop bombs on women and children cuz big bad Bin Laden and 12 DUH cave-dwellers planned and carried out 9-11 from a cave, used boxcutters, blah blah blah. and you couldn't "catch Bin Laden"....

"backwards cave-dwelling muslims" outsmarted the GREAT USA USA USA! 12 "religious muslim extremist muslims" who went to strip clubs and got drunk; left Korans and flight plans in cars and bars and hotels.....ya.

Lucky Larry Silverstein cashed in double....man, was he ever lucky to have doubled his insurance policies on the towers (in case of terrorist plane attack) just months before them A-rabs managed to outsmart NORAD.

money shot on the pentagon too....



oops....hole too small!

sssshhhhhh.........don't say anything.
just wave Ol' Glory and DROP BOMBS!



did Saddam Hussein have WMD? noooo......
but...wait a second! what did Iraq have to do with 9-11? i thought it was A-rabs from afghanis.....:confused:



that's your man Brzezinski...with your man Bin Laden.

man-up crossfire: YOU AGREE WITH THE war criminals and liars who are doing this, you got MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DEAD PEOPLE to answer for......old Hitler's Reichstag FF playbook to the T.

some people never learn nuttin'
and millions pay the price.





I'm not sure what color Kool-aid that the <war mongers, war criminals and antisemites - arabs are semites:D> are drinking, the flavor is obviously "FLOURIDE/MSNBC/COWARDICE".
OH! OH!
and why did them 'A-rabs from a cave across the world' HIT YA?

CUZ THEY HATE YOU FOR YOUR FREEDOMS!:D

ROTFLMHO! ya... your porn and usury and stuff.
they were so jealous.....:rolleyes:

BUT! the answer to that little problem is this....which just HAPPENED to be drawn up ready to sign:



there...now you're nice and SAFE.
stupid old constitution anyways....who needs it?

we're wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay safer from e-xacto knife wielding SEMITES (A-rabs) now:



don't bring up the dancing israelis.
and DO NOT watch their tv interview in Israel afterwards where they say proudly: WE WERE THERE TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT.

I pray that Ron Paul, an Amillennial racist, is never elected as President of the United States.

*face palm*
um....could you provide a url showing what Ron Paul's eschatology is please(?)
laughing so hard my ribs hurt.......LOLOLOL.

aaahhhh.......welp, your take on 9-11 fits the rest of your stuff anyhoo.
 
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Bible-thumping again.:rolleyes:

The context of that scripture deals with fasting/eating. What has that to do with the topic here?
Bible thumping eh? I thought only atheists and haters said that.

I was referring to how Ada was judging Westand by saying that he will be comdemned for not caring about all of this religious and political "crap".

Maybe next time you should inquire before you start calling people bible-thumpers.
 
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Whenever I read the plots the conspiracy theorists are posting about, I am reminded of the film "A Beautiful Mind" where you see the descent of John Nash, a brilliant mathematician, into paranoid schizophrenia,
hmmm....maybe i'll add it to my sig.

whenever i read posts like this i know who is who.
but you and i have already had this "discussion".

carry on.....our turn is coming. it couldn't happen without guys who talk like you.

don't read the following: i made it all up in MY BEAUTIFUL MIND.

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Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded, not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering a high morale and cummunity propose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao &#8217;s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.
David Rockefeller
New York Times 1973

Great Leap Forward
The Great Leap Forward (simplified Chinese: &#22823;&#36291;&#36827;; traditional Chinese: &#22823;&#36493;&#36914;; pinyin: Dà yuè jìn) of the People's Republic of China (PRC) was an economic and social campaign of the Communist Party of China (CPC), reflected in planning decisions from 1958 to 1961, which aimed to use China's vast population to rapidly transform the country from an agrarian economy into a modern communist society through the process of rapid industrialization, and collectivization. Mao Zedong led the campaign based on the Theory of Productive Forces, and intensified it after being informed of the impending disaster from grain shortages.

The Great Leap ended in catastrophe, resulting in tens of millions of excess deaths.[2] Estimates of the death toll range from 16.5 to 46 million, with estimates by demographic specialists ranging from 18 to 32.5 million. Historian Frank Dikötter asserts that "coercion, terror, and systematic violence were the very foundation of the Great Leap Forward" and it "motivated one of the most deadly mass killings of human history."​

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"The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao &#8217;s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history"

Estimates of the death toll range from 16.5 to 46 million

"coercion, terror, and systematic violence were the very foundation of the Great Leap Forward"

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"One August 1989 morning in Kennebunkport, Maine, Pres Bush (Sr) took his national security adviser, Brent Scowcroft, for a ride on the presidential speed boat, Fidelity. Four hours later, the president came ashore with a ringing slogan that Scowcroft had offered: "The New World Order" Ever since, the goal of a "new world order" has been the theme of Bush's Foreign policy pronouncements.----LA Times Feb 24, 1991

But this term has actually been used for generations by individuals seeking one-world socialist rule.

Here are many references to the term (not a complete study) that refute any claim that it originated with Bush and also prove that it is a well-used term over many decades to indicate that it meant a socialist world government. I have also included some other references that I thought were pertinent.

1915 - Nov 27, Columbia University president Nicholas Murray Butler (on the executive committee of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace) delivered an address, "A New World Order is Being Born" to the Union League of Philadelphia in which he stated: "The old world order changed when this war storm broke--the old world order died with the setting of the day's sun and a New World Order is being born while I speak."

1918 - Charles R. Van Hise, Pres. University of Wisconsin, delivers an address to the Wisconsin State Convention of The League to Enforce Peace. The title of the address is: "The Foundation of a New World Order" in which he says: "The world has become one body, and no great member of it can proceed independently of the other members. They must act together; and this is possible only through formal treaty covenants."

1919 - The January edition of International Conciliation (connected with the Carnegie organization) focuses upon "A League of Nations." A cover letter sent, with this edition of the journal, begins with these words: "The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world."

<DIV>1919 - A book entitled The New World Order by Samuel Zane Batten is published by the American Baptist Publication Society. In this book, Batten declares: "The old order passes from view, the new world rises upon our vision....We have vindicated the right of social control.....There must be developed a national spirit of service....Society must break the stranglehold of capitalism....The natural resources of the nation must be socialized....The state must socialize every group....Men must learn to have a world patriotism. World patriotism must be a faith....There is no more justice for the claim of absolute sovereignty on the part of a nation than on the part of an individual....The only alternative is World Federation....with a world parliament, and international court, and an international police force....Men must have an international mind before there can be a world federation. Th
1920 - A book entitled The New World Order (International Organization, International Law, International Cooperation) by Frederick Charles Hicks Doubleday 1920. He is law librarian of Columbia University, and in this book he suggests that among the most powerful few of the Great Powers, the example must be set to "cooperate, here and there, piece by piece, in limiting the exercise of their sovereign rights."

1927 - The Christian Science Monitor (August 8) quoted from an address to the World Federation of Education Associations (WFEA) by Dr. Augustus Thomas (commissioner of education for Maine) at their Toronto congress: "If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment." He says the world must go through a long process of education "...until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands."

1928 - A book entitled The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution by socialist H. G. Wells is published. He declares that "..The political world of the Open Conspiracy must weaken, efface, incorporate and supersede existing governments....The Open Conspiracy is the natural inheritor of socialist and communist enthusiasms, it may be in control of Moscow before it is in control of New York...."

1931 - Historian Arnold Toynbee delivers a speech to the Institute for the Study of International Affairs at Copenhagen in which he explains: "We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands, because to impugn the sovereignty of the local nation states of the world is still a heresy for which a statesman or publicist can perhaps not quite be burned at the stake but certainly be ostracized or discredited." --International Affairs (journal of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, i.e. the British version of the Council on Foreign Relations) Nov 1931, "The Trend of International Affairs Wince the War"

1934 - Experiment In Autobiography by H. G. Wells is published in which he states: "The organization of this that I call the Open Conspiracy....which will ultimately supply teaching, coercive and directive public services to the whole world, is the immediate task before all rationale people...A planned world-state is appearing at a thousand points....Plans for political synthesis seem to grow bolder and more extensive....There must be a common faith and law for mankind....The main battle is an educational battle.

1940 - A book entitled, The New World Order by H.G. Wells, in which Wells claims: "It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it."

1940 - A Book World Order (Civitas Dei) by Lionel Curtis is published. This 985 page volume will be called the foundation of all thought on the design of a new order. It examines human society and concludes that a working system must mean the organization of all human society into one commonwealth.

1942 - In The Philadelphia Inquirer (June 18), reporter William Murphy, Jr. wrote that on June 17, "Undersecretary of State, Sumner Welles called for the early creation of an international organization....the setting up of a new world order on a permanent basis."

1948 - July: The CFR's Foreign Affairs publishes "A New World Takes Shape" by Sir Harold Butler in which he asks: "How far can the life of nations, which for centuries have thought of themselves as distinct and unique, be merged with the life of other nations? How far are they prepared to sacrifice a part of their sovereignty without which there can be no effective economic or political union?....Out of the prevailing confusion a new world is taking shape...which may point the way toward the new order."

1948 - UNESCO: Its Purpose and Its Philosophy by Fabian Socialist Sir Julian Huxley is published in which he proclaims that UNESCO "...In its education program it can stress the ultimate need for world political unity and familiarize all peoples with the implications of the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world organization..."

1949 - April: United Nations World magazine publishes an article by Ambassador Warren Austin, chief of the U.S. Mission to the UN, in which he pronounces that "....World government could not be accepted without radical change of national outlook.... It will take a long time to prepare peoples and governments of most nations for acceptance of and participation in a world government....If we expect this future world government to be created by agreement and not by force or conquest, we will have to be willing to work patiently until peoples or governments are ready for it....

1949 - Towards World Understanding, vol. V, is published by UNESCO, and in this volume one reads: "As long as the child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in world-mindedness can produce only rather precarious results....For the moment, it is sufficient to note that it is most frequently in the family that the children are infected with nationalism by hearing what is national extolled and what is foreign disparaged....The activity of the school cannot bring about the desired result unless, repudiating every form of nationalism..."

1949 - The New World Order by communist Scott Nearing is published, in which he projects that "the one world of technology must become one world also economically and politically....Such objectives will be achieved most easily through a science of social engineering."

1951 - July 24: The Chicago Tribune publishes a front page news article titled " 'Global' Flag Gen. Ike's Aim, Says Senator," which begins with the words: "Gen. Eisenhower is working for an allied army under a single flag, uniform, and command to defend Western Europe, senators reported today on their return from an overseas inspection trip."

1951 - July 31: The Chicago Tribune publishes an article, "OWI (office of war information) Propaganda machine Linked to Rhodes (Rhodes scholars) Men," stating: "Those who absorbed the Elmer Davis(Rhodes scholar and head of OWI), Office of War Information training have pushed the British concept of policing the world with American soldiers and economic aid and have fought for a world federation under which the United States would surrender its sovereignty." About 40 years later, American soldiers will be stationed in many nations around the world as part of UN peacekeeping missions.

<DIV>1953 - The Impact of Science on Society by Fabian Socialist Bertrand Russell is published in which he declares: " I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology....Various results will soon be arrived at: that the influence of home is obstructive....although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen....Educational propaganda, with government help, could achieve this result in a generation. There are, however, two powerful forces opposed to such a policy: one is religion; the other is nationalism....A scientific world society cannot be stable unless there is a world government.
1958 - In Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.'s The Coming of the New Deal he quotes Machiavelli at the front of the book saying, "There is nothing...more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things." And at the end of the book, he quotes Fabian Socialist H.G. Wells describing FDR as: "The most effective transmitting instrument possible for the coming of the new world order....He is continuously revolutionary in the new way without ever provoking a stark revolutionary crisis."

1959 - The West in Crisis by James Warburg is published, in which he proclaims that: "...a world order without world law is an anachronism....A world which fails to establish the rule of law over the nation-states cannot long continue to exist. We are living in a perilous period of transition from the era of the fully sovereign nation-state to the era of world government." James Warburg is a CFR member and founder of United World Federalists. He is also the son of Paul Warburg, an architect of the Federal Reserve.

1960 - The United States in the World Arena by Walt Rostow (CFR) is published. In the book he declares: "It is a legitimate American objective to see removed from all nations--including the United States--the right to use substantial military force to pursue their own interest. Since this residual right is the root of national sovereignty and the basis for the existence of an international arena of power, it is, therefore, an American interest to see an end to nationhood as it had been historically defined."

1961 - Sept, State Department document 7277 titled, "Freedom From War: The U.S. Program for General and Complete disarmament in a Peaceful World" is published. Pres Kennedy delivers this to the UN on Sept 25. This document provides that the United States will disarm along with other countries so that the UN becomes the unchallengeable World power....disarmament "would proceed to a point where no state would have the military power to challenge the progressively strengthened UN Peace Force." This transition is still going on today.

1962 - March 10 State Department Study Memorandum No. 7, "A World Effectively Controlled by the United Nations, " written by CFR member Lincoln Bloomfield, in which he states: "A world effectively controlled by the United Nations is one in which "world government" would come about through the establishment of supranational institutions, characterized by mandatory universal membership and some ability to employ physical force....(But) if the communist dynamic was greatly abated, the West might lose whatever incentive it has for world government" It looks as if now the "communist menace" has been replaced by the "terrorist menace". And of course they can switch back to the communist menace or any other kind of menace whenever they want to.

1962 - A lecture given by CFR member Nelson Rockefeller at Harvard University in which he says that there is"...a new and free order struggling to be born....(There is a )fever of nationalism....(but) the nation-state is becoming less and less competent to perform its international political tasks....These are some of the reasons pressing us to lead vigorously toward the true building of a new world order....(with)voluntary service...Sooner perhaps than we may realize,....there will evolve the bases for a federal structure of the free world."

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1967 - March 26: Pope Paul VI writes Populorum Progressio and states: "Who can fail to see the need and importance of thus gradually coming to the establishment of a world authority capable of taking effective action on the juridical and political planes? Delegates to international organizations, public officials, gentlemen of the press, teachers and educators--all of you must realize that you have your part to play in the construction of a new world order.

1967 - Richard Nixon writing in The CFR periodical Foreign Affairs Oct 1967 "....and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order."

1968 - The Subtle and Leisurely Penetration, a reference report from the George Mason School of Correspondence, is published by Education Information, Inc., of Sacramento, CA. It mentions that the thirty-two Americans to be Rhodes Scholars this year have been selected, and then states: "The stated objectives of Cecil John Rhodes and his friend, Sir Andrew Carnegie, included the reduction of the United States to a colony of the New World Order."

1968 - October: In this edition of the CFR's Foreign Affairs is an article, "Asia After Vietnam," by Richard Nixon (CFR member 1961-1965), in which he writes of nations' disposition "to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order."


1968 - Gov Nelson Rockefeller from Deseret News July 26, 1968, Salt Lake City, Utah pg 2A...."New York Gov Nelson A. Rockefeller says as president he would work toward international creation of "a new world order...."

1970 - Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era by Zbigniew Brzezinski is published. He is a CFR member who will become the first director of the Trilateral Commission and President Carter's national security advisor. In this book he states: "Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man's universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief.....Human beings become increasingly manipulable and malleable...Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites....whose ties cut across national boundaries....The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty....Further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be underta...

1971 - Richard Nixon(CFR) quoted by James Reston(CFR) in Boston Herald Traveller May 21, ......"Aside from politics, Nixon would obviously like to preside over the creation of a new world order,....."

1972 - Pres Nixon's speech giving in Peking from UPI 2-25-72......."and the hope that each of us has to build a new world order....."

1973 - August 10: The New York Times publishes "From a China Traveller" by David Rockefeller, who writes about Communist China: "One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony....There is a very real and pervasive dedication to chairman Mao and Maoist principles. Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community purpose. General social and economic progress is no less impressive....The enormous social advances of China have benefited greatly from the singleness of ideology and purpose....The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history."

1974 - Richard N. Gardner writing in Foreign Affairs (CFR) April 1974 Article entitled The Hard Road to World Order, "In short, the "house of world order: will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great "booming, buzzing confusion," .......but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."


1975 - James Reston Sunday Herald Advertiser , Boston Aug 3, 1975......"the spirit of Glassboro under President Johnson was that the big powers should forget the past and work together fora new world order...."

1975 - A Declaration of INTERdependence by Henry Steele Commager Oct 24, 1975......."Two centuries ago our forefathers brought forth a new nation; now we must join with others to bring forth a new world order.. .."

1976 - The Freeman Digest (Jan 79) will publish an interview with Joseph Slater, president of the Aspen Institute for Humanistic Studies, in which he will respond to the question about "the new world order" as follows: "Whatever system is constructed, many people feel that the new global community will be monolithic; that is why the words "new world order" tend to connote a sort of 1984 Orwellian kind of notion where there is some master system...."

1977 - The Third Try at World Order by Harlan Cleveland, CFR member is published. He calls for "changing Americans' attitudes and institutions"; for "complete disarmament (except for international soldiers)"; for "fairer distribution of worldly goods through a new International Economic Order"; and for "international standard for individual entitlement to food, health and education."

1977 - July: The Atlantic Monthly publishes "The Trilateral Connection" by former Washington Post columnist Jeremiah Novak, in which he states: "For the third time in this century, a group of American scholars, businessmen, and government officials is planning to fashion a New World Order."


1979 - Fidel Castro, Associated Press Oct 12 1979 at the United Nations. "Fidel Castro finger waving in the air and angry fist thumping the lectern, demanded a "new world order" and dressed down the United States today for "aggressive" and "exploitative" policies around the world."

1982 - "Just as there must come a new world economic order, there must come a new world communication order.....It will take time, but it must come." Christian Century April 14, 1982 p. 442, by William F. Fore.

1986 - Regarding "the establishment" of which George Bush was a member, a book was written about some of its leaders and was titled The Wise Men (1986). It was co-authored by Rhodes Scholar, CFR member, and a Time editor, Walter isaacson, who described how 6 leaders "shaped a new world order," were internationalists, and had a "common outlook." One of them, Chip Bohlen, was quoted as saying about socialism: "maybe that is the road we ought to go down." Also in the book one reads that Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. in 1965 wrote: "The New York financial and legal community was the heart of the American establishment....its front organizations, the Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie foundations and the Council on Foreign Relations."

1988 - George Bush would run for the presidency of the United States in 1988, and on Feb 10, The Washington Post quoted David Rockefeller as remarking that "He's (Bush) one of us ('the establishment')....If he were president, he would be in a better position than anyone else to pull together the people in the country who believe that we are in fact living in one world and have to act that way."

1988 - Mikhail Gorbachev speaking at UN , The Boston Globe Dec 8 1988 "....He called for a "new world order" founded not on force but on dialogue......."

1989 - President Bush gave the commencement address at Texas A & M University on May 12, he which he stated "Ultimately, our objective is to welcome the Soviet Union back into the world order....Perhaps the world order of the future will truly be a family of nations." --Arizona Daily Star, May 12.

1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev quoted in Washington Post Feb 25 1990 "...A new world order is taking shape so fast that governments are well as private citizens find it difficult just to absorb the gallop of events....."

1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev speaking at Stanford University quoted by Sentinel wire services Jun 5 1990 "Saying the world should not debate who won the Cold War, Soviet President Mikhail S. Gorbachev called Monday for the United states and Soviet Union to be partners in building "anew world order"...."Tolerance is the alpha and omega of a new world order"....

1991 - May 18 Valley Times, Pleasanton, CA an article entitled "Shevardnadze touts U.N.", staff writer Jeanie R. Wakeland writes about a speech in San Francisco sponsored by the World Affairs Council: "Shevardnadze said the United nations cannot do anything if its decisions aren't carried out by all members. nations can be made to feel they 'lose' if they go against a U.N. position, Shevardnadze said. 'If we can rely on the (U.N.) position, we can build on this for a new world order."

1991 - Associated Press June 6, Oslo, Norway: "Mikhail Gorbachev said yesterday in his Nobel Peace lecture that Western failure to heed his call for economic aid could dash hopes for a peaceful new world order.....'To me, it is self-evident that if Soviet perestroika succeeds, there will be a real chance of building a new world order.' "



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President Bush (SR) quotes on new world order and United nations:

"Time and again in this century, the political map of the world was transformed. And in each instance, a new world order came about through the advent of a new tyrant or the outbreak of a bloody global war, or its end." Feb 28, 1990---this quote is six months before Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in August.

"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective--a new world order--can emerge...... We are now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders." --Sep 11 1990

Pres Bush delivers an address to Congress titled "Toward a New World Order," regarding the crisis in the Persian Gulf after Iraq invaded Kuwait in August. He will follow this with and October 1 address to the U.N., in which he will speak of the "collective strength of the world community expressed by the U.N....a historic movement towards a new world order."

"I think what's at stake here is the new world order....a reinvigorated United Nations." -Jan 7 1991

"(The Gulf crisis) has to do with a new world order. And that world order is only going to be enhanced if this newly activated peacekeeping function of the United nations proves to be effective." -Jan 9 1991

"When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN's founders." -Jan 16 1991

A quote from an invitation sent to Republican contributors throughout the United Stated in May 1991: "Now, our President faces greater tasks. And he must have help from like-minded men and women in the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate who can help him establish the "new world order" he seeks."

1992 - July 20 Time magazine published "The Birth of the Global Nation" by Strobe Talbott (Rhodes scholar roommate of Bill Clinton at Oxford University, CFR director, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace board of directors member, and Trilateralist from a wealthy Ohio investment banking family), in which he writes: All countries are basically social arrangements....No matter how permanent or even sacred they may seem at any one time, in fact they are all artificial and temporary....Perhaps national sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all....But it has taken the events in our own wondrous and terrible century to clinch the case for world government."

1992 - August 26: The New York Times publishes "The World Needs an Army on Call" by U.S. Senator David Boren (Rhodes Scholar 1963, CFR member, and member of "Skull and Bones") in which he states: "In the aftermath of World War II, President Truman wanted to empower the United Nations to create a new world order....Richard Gardner proposes that forty to fifty member nations contribute to a rapid-deployment force of one hundred thousand volunteers that could train under common leadership....It is time for us to create such a force....The existence of such a force would go a long way toward making the "new world order" more than just a slogan."

1993 - Jan 13: Confirmation hearings are held for CFR member Warren Christopher's nomination to be Secretary of State. He and Senator Joseph Biden discuss the possibility of NATO becoming a peacekeeping surrogate for the U.N. "to foster the creation of a new world order." That is just what happened in Bosnia.

1993 - April 21: General Colin Powell receives the United Nations Association-USA's Global Leadership Award, and he remarks: "The United Nations will spearhead our efforts to manage the new conflicts (that afflict our world)....Yes the principles of the United Nations Charter are worth our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." !!!!!?????

1993 - May 4: New CFR president Leslie Gelb (formerly and editor at The New York Times ) says on "The Charlie Rose Show" that "...you(Charlie Rose) had me on (before) to talk about the new world order....I talk about it all the time....It's one world now...."

1993 - June 22. In case there is any doubt about whether President Clinton(CFR) supports world government, on this date he signs a letter to the World Federalist Association congratulating Strobe Talbott(CFR) on receiving (june 24) the WFA's first "Norman Cousins Global Governance Award." The WFA is a leading force for world federal government. Clinton's letter states: "Norman Cousins worked for world peace and world government...Strobe Talbott's lifetime achievements as a voice for global harmony have earned him this recognition....He will be a worthy recipient of the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award. Best wishes....for future success."

1993 - July 18: CFR member and Trilateralist Henry Kissinger writes in The Los Angeles Times concerning NAFTA: "What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system....a first step toward a new world order."

1993 - September 9: Concerning whether U.S. troops should remain in Somalia as part of a U.N. operation, General Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, says that a pullout would be "devastating to our hopes for the new world order and our ability to participate in multinational organizations to deal with problems like this."

1993 - W. Scott Thompson (Rhodes Scholar 1963-66) writes "Conflict and Conflict Resolution: On to the Twenty-First Century" for the federal United Stated Institute of Peace, of which he is a board member appointed by President Reagan in 1986. In this article, Thompson writes about "a positive factor: the greater reliance on (and opportunity for) the United Nations to resolve perennial conflicts....In addition to a strengthened U.N., a New World Order requires understandings and divisions of labor among like-minded friends across the globe."

1994 - World Federalist Association will publish The Genius of Federation: Why World Federation Is the Answer to Global Problems, which will state: "Let the U.N. establish new agencies such as an International Criminal Court....National sovereignty would be gradually eroded until it is no longer an issue. Eventually a world federation can be formally adopted with little resistance."

1994 - April 14: Americans are killed as a result of a "friendly fire" attack while patrolling over Iraq, and Vice-President Al Gore will refer to them as "those who died in the service of the United Nations." !!!!!?????

1994 - May 3: President Clinton signs Presidential Decision Directive 25, which strengthens the U.N. and describes how American soldiers will serve under foreign commanders. PDD25 will only be released to top administration officials and a few member of Congress, the general public is refused access.

1994 - the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor March 1995 quotes Vladimir Zhirinovsky on Nov 9 at a press conference at the U.N. said, "There has long been a hidden agenda to merge America and Russia under the New World Order."

1995 - Jan 27: Billionaire financier George Soros at the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland, says the world needs a "new world order," and he further warns: "I am here to alert you that we are entering a period of world disorder."

1995 - July/August: In the CFR's Foreign Affairs, prominent CFR member Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. exclaims: "We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."

<DIV>1995 - The report, "Our Global Neighborhood," by The Commission on Global Governance (partly funded by the U.N. Development Program and endorsed by the U.N. Secretary-General) is released, and states: "A new world order must be organized....Global governance is the way we manage global affairs....nations have to accept that in certain fields, sovereignty has to be exercised collectively....We need to accept that there may be circumstances within countries when the security of people is so severely violated that external intervention becomes justified. We propose that the U.N. Charter be amended to permit intervention in such circumstances....We believe that there is a need for a highly trained U.N. Volunteer (military) Force....Accelerated progress must be made toward demilitarizing the international society...We strongly endorse community initiatives to ...encourage the disarming of civilians....The inadequac
1996 - Jan 24: U.S. Army Specialist Michael New is convicted at a court-martial on a charge of refusing an order to wear a U.N. insignia.

1996 - A Reporter's Life by Walter Cronkite is published, in which he proclaims: " if we are to avoid catastrophe, a system of world order--preferably a system of world government --is mandatory. The proud nations someday will ....yield up their precious sovereignty."

<DIV>1996 - May 11 Journalist Joan Veon interviews David C. Korten, author of When Corporations Rule the World (1995) and former Ford Foundation project specialist in Manila. In this interview, Korten claims that: "the World Trade Organization is creating a world government in which one organization which is totally unelected, wholly secretive....with the power to virtually override and local or national laws if those in any way inconvenience global corporations....It was a terrible shock (to those of us who supported Bill Clinton) when Clinton came in and GATT and NAFTA became the centerpieces of his policy....And in a sense, there was almost a seamless transition from President Bush to President Clinton in that regard....Our democracy has been rendered meaningless by big money. The truth is there are politicians (who) are owned lock, stock and barrel by the big money interests....Our elections create, to some extent, a facade of choice."
 

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1970 - Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era by Zbigniew Brzezinski is published. He is a CFR member who will become the first director of the Trilateral Commission and President Carter's national security advisor. In this book he states: "Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man's universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief.....Human beings become increasingly manipulable and malleable...Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites....whose ties cut across national boundaries....The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty....Further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken....

'New World Order' Quotes of Note





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I'm not sure what color Kool-aid that the Amillennialists on this board are drinking, the flavor is obviously "ANTISEMITE".
This thread needs more love.

I pray that Ron Paul, an Amillennial racist, is never elected as President of the United States.
How do you know Congressman Paul is Amillennial, and racist?
 

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PC rhetorics

The politically correct diary of the day:

Technique: Guilt by association. Formula: (Falsely) accuse and demonize your opponents effectively. Yell "racist" and "antisemite" (really LOUD and repeatedly, if needed) to all who disagree with you and - hocus-pocus - all you say is justified and true.

[Nice "fruit", eh. No arguments, no willingness to correct those who would be supposedly wrong, just slandering. A reason why I ignore troll posts.]



Pax Americana-Sovjetica
 

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Dispensationalism: Christian Zionism

The dispensational system promotes Zionism among Christians, the conviction that physical Jews today have a Biblical right to possess the land of Palestine. The point of discussion in this chapter is not Zionism as a political issue but Zionism as a Biblically based theological issue. The typical dispensationalist does have a passionate commitment to theological Zionism and a religious regard for the epic Zionistic events of 1948 and 1967: the modern establishment of the Jewish state of Israel and the Israeli conquest of Jerusalem. These two events are viewed as the two most dramatic fulfillments of prophecy since the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. and as signs of the soon return of Christ. Many dispensationalists are also anticipating a third imminent Zionistic fulfillment of prophecy: the rebuilding of the temple at Jerusalem....

...Dispensational Zionism is founded on the dispensational interpretation of the Abrahamic covenant. Dispensationalists argue that the Abrahamic covenant is Jewish, unconditional and unfulfilled. Since the covenant is unconditional, it must be fulfilled at some point in history. Since it has not been fulfilled in the past, then it must be fulfilled in the future. And since it is Jewish, it must be fulfilled in a future Jewish dispensation. Therefore, the Abrahamic covenant mandates a coming Jewish age, the millennium, for the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy. We will examine in this chapter the dispensational understanding of the Abrahamic covenant as Jewish and unfulfilled....

...They [dispensationalists] teach that the eternal Jewish land promise is to be completely fulfilled in the 1000 year Judaistic millennial period. According to Dr. Charles C. Ryrie:
The earthly purpose of Israel of which dispensationalists speak concerns the national promise which will be fulfilled by Jews during the millennium as they live on the earth in unresurrected bodies.
http://www.grovergunn.net/andrew/disp10.htm

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Joshua 21
43Thus the Lord gave to Israel all the land that he swore to give to their fathers. And they took possession of it, and they settled there. 44And the Lord gave them rest on every side just as he had sworn to their fathers. Not one of all their enemies had withstood them, for the Lord had given all their enemies into their hands. 45Not one word of all the good promises that the Lord had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass.


Hebrews 4:8
For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on.

Matthew 11:28
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
 
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Matthew 21
The Parable of the Tenants
33“Hear another parable. There was a master of a house who planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a winepress in it and built a tower and leased it to tenants, and went into another country. 34When the season for fruit drew near, he sent his servantsc to the tenants to get his fruit. 35And the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. 36Again he sent other servants, more than the first. And they did the same to them. 37Finally he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ 39And they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. 40When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” 41They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”

42Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

“‘The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;d
this was the Lord’s doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’?


43Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. 44And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”e

45When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. 46And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.



Matthew 11:28
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
 
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The right to lands.., interesting isnt it if you raise the subject of aboriginal or american indians lands its shot down with an assortment of rhetoric

eg: Matthew 6 19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

above being the most common used among christians

yet this precedent is completely waived when we discuss Israel with christians quick to send their children off to die for the cause even

so why is it different in this case?

many people here claim to be all about truth and justice while maintain some of the most hypocritical positions I have ever had the misfortune to stumble across
 

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good to remember where christian zionism came from: injected into the church from an outside source.
that's all some have ever been taught.