Why Many Fail to Receive Healing

[lesjude]

The Bible clearly gives the reasons and that healing is promised.

Demon possession/oppression can be a cause of sickness. Jesus cast out many demons and the result was healing. See also 2 Corinthians 7:1 for Christians needing deliverance.

Sin is how sickness came into the world so it follows that if a believer sins and refuses all correction from God then He can chasten with sickness. Repentance brings healing.
The healing of the sickness, not the sickness, is for the glory of God. John 9:1-3

Christians can be ill and stay ill from ignorance of the healing Jesus provided in the atonement.

Everyone gets the measure of faith from God but it is the believers responsibility to grow and exercise that faith (Romans 10:17 and Jude 20). If that responsibility is not met healing can be elusive. God can allow it to send that message of our responsibility if all else fails.

They can stay ill because they do not know what Bible faith is Hebrews 11, or how to put it to work James 2:18-26, Mark 11:24, 1 John 5:14-15 to receive healing. No one gets ANYTHING from God unless they exercise Bible faith praying according to His revealed will not "if it be thy will".

Sickness can simply be a trial to defeat the devil, glorify God, and refine the believer's faithfulness and character (see James 1:2-4, 1 Peter 1:6-7) which is why there is often a period of time between asking and receiving by faith and the manifestation of the healing (Mark 11:24).
Christians get sick and stay sick for abusing their bodies. Praying over ones food is VERY important for obvious reasons. It keeps us safe from all the "stuff" in it.
Disobedience, unforgiveness, the negative things we say about ourselves, wanting to be sick to use it for control, sympathy, a hobby, ect.; involvement in the occult by Christians i.e. horoscope, ouija board, "white" witchcraft, fortunetelling, magic practices, water witching (water divining), Eastern religion like yoga all can and do result in getting sick and staying sick.
There is a culture or climate of unbelief that is in the churches which hinders those who want to trust Jesus for healing by faith from doing so and hinders the work of healing miracles by the Holy Spirit.

 

[zone]

physical healing is not promised by the Atonement.
it's not promised at all.
God answers prayer but may or may not heal.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

physical healing is not promised by the Atonement.
it's not promised at all.
God answers prayer but may or may not heal.

If God did what these people claimed, No christian would ever die. Where do these people come from??

 

[lesjude]

physical healing is not promised by the Atonement.
it's not promised at all.
God answers prayer but may or may not heal.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/52773-answering-objections-healing-atonement.html
http://christianchat.com/new-christ.../42336-our-testimony-normal-christianity.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/40857-prayer-faith-vs-if-your-will.html

 

[jkalyna]

THE FERVENT PRAYER OF A MAN AVAILETH MUCH. WHEN SICK BABIES IN THE WOMB KNOW NOTHING OF FAITH, OTHER'S PRAYER, MIRACLES DO HAPPEN. MUCH OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A BELIEVER IS TO CARRY ANOTHERS BURDENS, AS THE LORD SAYS, BEAR ONE ANOTHERS BURDEN. JESUS SAID PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER. IF A MAN IS STANDING ON THE CLIFF READY TO JUMP, LOST HOPE, FAITH, AND ALL, A BELIEVER CAN PRAY AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL TOUCH HIS MIND IT COULD, WE ARE NOT JENNIES IN A BOTTLE. WE ARE GIVEN FAITH, BUT ALSO AS CORINTHIANS SAYS HOPE FAITH AND LOVE, OF THESE LOVE IS THE GREATEST. WE NEED TO PRAYER FOR OTHERS WHO ARE WEAK IN FAITH. THIS IS THE WILL OF THE FATHER GOD THAT WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER, WITH OUR PRAYERS AND FAITH, THERE COULD BE MIRACLES. AMEN THERE IS NO DOUBT FOR NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD.

 

[lesjude]

THE FERVENT PRAYER OF A MAN AVAILETH MUCH. WHEN SICK BABIES IN THE WOMB KNOW NOTHING OF FAITH, OTHER'S PRAYER, MIRACLES DO HAPPEN. MUCH OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A BELIEVER IS TO CARRY ANOTHERS BURDENS, AS THE LORD SAYS, BEAR ONE ANOTHERS BURDEN. JESUS SAID PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER. IF A MAN IS STANDING ON THE CLIFF READY TO JUMP, LOST HOPE, FAITH, AND ALL, A BELIEVER CAN PRAY AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL TOUCH HIS MIND IT COULD, WE ARE NOT JENNIES IN A BOTTLE. WE ARE GIVEN FAITH, BUT ALSO AS CORINTHIANS SAYS HOPE FAITH AND LOVE, OF THESE LOVE IS THE GREATEST. WE NEED TO PRAYER FOR OTHERS WHO ARE WEAK IN FAITH. THIS IS THE WILL OF THE FATHER GOD THAT WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER, WITH OUR PRAYERS AND FAITH, THERE COULD BE MIRACLES. AMEN THERE IS NO DOUBT FOR NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/40849-so-you-want-love-people-like-jesus-did.html

 

[Abiding]

Lesjude,

Jesus died to take away your sins, why do you still sin?
Jesus took care of death and the grave in the atonement. Are you gona die?

 

[lesjude]

Lesjude,

Jesus died to take away your sins, why do you still sin?
Jesus took care of death and the grave in the atonement. Are you gona die?

Christians do NOT sin willfully. Note it says IF not when you sin in 1 John 2:1. Also read 1 John 3:4-9 and Romans 6:1-18. IF a Christian sins it is 1 John 1:9.
The Bible does not promise one will not get sick, but promises healing if the conditions are met. Christians do not have to die sick. Moses did not and we have a better covenant.

 

[BarlyGurl]

Previous objections noted...

that said... GOD HEALED ME.

I do want to mention... Praying over your food...is to honor the provider and show gratitude. It does not, and WILL NOT transform unhealthy, faux or frakenfood into something nutritious for our bodies. We are specifically mandated to care for our temple (body).... praying over your food will not absolve anyone from the personal and social responsibilities associated with healthy food.

 

[Abiding]

Christians do NOT sin willfully. Note it says IF not when you sin in 1 John 2:1. Also read 1 John 3:4-9 and Romans 6:1-18. IF a Christian sins it is 1 John 1:9.
The Bible does not promise one will not get sick, but promises healing if the conditions are met. Christians do not have to die sick. Moses did not and we have a better covenant.

true and christians do not get sick willfully...so where does that leave us?
wait?promised to be healed...which verse was that?

Oh right conditions...there you go

Are having our sins forgiven conditional too?.

 

[Abiding]

again are you gona die?

 

[lesjude]

Previous objections noted...

that said... GOD HEALED ME.

I do want to mention... Praying over your food...is to honor the provider and show gratitude. It does not, and WILL NOT transform unhealthy, faux or frakenfood into something nutritious for our bodies. We are specifically mandated to care for our temple (body).... praying over your food will not absolve anyone from the personal and social responsibilities associated with healthy food.

I agree. But if one must eat fast food Isaiah 54:17 is a good prayer. There is a lot of "stuff" we do not even know about everyday food and water. For instance traces of prescription drugs passed through the body in city water.

 

[Spiritual_Plague]

Psalm 103
"...2 Praise the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits-- 3 who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases..."

Between my wife and I, we were both diagnosed with cancer within two years of one another, but we absolutely believe that God forgives all our sins, and we absolutely believe God heals all our diseases just as bluntly as the scripture says it.

I was healed leaving my Dr. scratching his head. My wife and I are believing all the same for her body as well and are expecting to hear the good report on Wed. In both of our circumstances we've definitely had to fight the fight of faith, learn and grow, and believe through some tuff circumstances, but that's just how it goes...otherwise it wouldn't really require faith.

God is good!

 

[lesjude]

true and christians do not get sick willfully...so where does that leave us?
wait?promised to be healed...which verse was that?

They do things willfully or in ignorance that gives Satan the right to put sickness on them. Please read the OP again.

Oh right conditions...there you go

There are conditions for every promise of God. The main one is to believe in the heart, the second is confess with the mouth. That goes for physical healing as well.

Are having our sins forgiven conditional too?

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Yes. Please read 1 John 1:9. Repentance is one BIG condition. Also know that the Bible says that God is under no obligation to forgive willful sin.

 

[Abiding]

Psalm 103
"...2 Praise the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits-- 3 who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases..."

Between my wife and I, we were both diagnosed with cancer within two years of one another, but we absolutely believe that God forgives all our sins, and we absolutely believe God heals all our diseases just as bluntly as the scripture says it.

I was healed leaving my Dr. scratching his head. My wife and I are believing all the same for her body as well and are expecting to hear the good report on Wed. In both of our circumstances we've definitely had to fight the fight of faith, learn and grow, and believe through some tuff circumstances, but that's just how it goes...otherwise it wouldn't really require faith.

God is good!

In light of this testimony, I change thought coarse here to thank the Lord for your healing.
And lift a prayer for your wife. I would do the same in my sickness.

 

[hopesprings]

God is good regardless of if He chooses to heal someone or not. IMO, saying that if you meet the right conditions then God will definitley heal you - is a ridiculously untrue statement. Sometimes God heals, as someone has testified to on this forum, and sometimes he doesn't. Are not some sicknesses unto death? Doesn't mean that God isn't good, he always has the best for his children in mind. That is faith...though he slay me, yet will I trust him. All things work together for good. Remember Paul pleading with God to heal him of his sickness? What was God's answer? Did Paul not meet the 'right conditions'? I've seen it happen, where people have been diagnosed with terrible illnesses, that eventually took their lives...yet during their time of sickness God was able to use them to reach the hearts of many. Definite healing it not promised in scripture...He chooses to heal those whom He will...and we are to honor Him and bring glory to Him regardless of the circumstance.

I do agree tho, that sometimes our sin can cause us to become ill...in which case, if we do repent, then he will heal us. But, again, he uses that sickness for our good...to bring us back to him. I think it is the same with sicknesses that he doesn't heal...it is still for our good.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

God knows my heart, and He knows that I want to be corrected if I'm doing something wrong and do not know it. I pray that God would make us all sick and miserable until we are following Jesus exactly the way He wants us to (that's partly how I love my neighbor as myself, cause I want to be sick and miserable if I am not taking the next step/steps).

There are many reasons why people don't get healed, and I believe the biggest reason is because it's better for them if they are not, cause it will cause them to keep searching for answers.

1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

When there is a united and completed and fully genuine group of people united in body, soul, and spirit, then the Kingdom of Heaven can be seen by the world in a multitude, not in just one here, and one there. Of course I can speak for the Everlasting Priesthood in saying that we will not stop taking the next steps towards all things common, equality, no respect of persons, casting lots, having no possessions of the world to call our own, and so on and so forth, but it's all summed up in Love.

Sometimes it's better that we don't get healed physically until we're more mature, especially if we would turn back.
Joh 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Sickness is a general result of sin in the world, it does not have to be from the individual person's sin.The bible makes this abundantly clear.

Be careful so you don't commit the same wrong as the people in the bible who claimed that a man was blind because of his sin.

If sickness was only because of sin then all the "bad guys" would be ill and the "good guys" would be healthy. No, actually, if it was, we would all be ill, as we all sin.
Also, any Christian who did get ill would get well again at once because they believe it is possible.

God being able to do something does not mean he will / must do it (!). He is not, as some guy once put it, a vending machine.

I suggest you read around this forum, you will see that many of our loving, caring prayer warriors have illnesses that they have had for years, and they are all good role models for the younger members of this site for how to live their lives.

 

[psychomom]

Previous objections noted...

that said... GOD HEALED ME.

I do want to mention... Praying over your food...is to honor the provider and show gratitude. It does not, and WILL NOT transform unhealthy, faux or frakenfood into something nutritious for our bodies. We are specifically mandated to care for our temple (body).... praying over your food will not absolve anyone from the personal and social responsibilities associated with healthy food.

Frankenfood! I'm going to remember that one!!

We call fast food 'death in a bag' in our family.
A friend who has gone Home one day after church was quoting the Bible, saying, "Death, where is your victory, where is your sting". He stopped short and said, "Oh, here it is in this Burger King bag!" Ever since, it's 'death in a bag'.

Thanks for adding to our little catch pharases.
-ellie

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Sickness is a general result of sin in the world, it does not have to be from the individual person's sin.The bible makes this abundantly clear.

Be careful so you don't commit the same wrong as the people in the bible who claimed that a man was blind because of his sin.

If sickness was only because of sin then all the "bad guys" would be ill and the "good guys" would be healthy.
Also, any Christian who did get ill would get well again at once because they believe it is possible.

God being able to do something does not mean he will / must do it (!). He is not, as some guy once put it, a vending machine.

I suggest you read around this forum, you will see that many of our loving, caring prayer warriors have illnesses that they have had for years, and they are all good role models for the younger members of this site for how to live their lives.

I agree with you, sickness isn't always a direct result of the indivuals sin, sometimes it's sin in general. Sometimes it is though, and I will confess that I have not gotten sick one time since a certain step I took in my own life. Perhaps I will, and praise the Lord if I do, cause it's for Gods glory.

Those that you were talking about.. My guess is that they are not trying to practice the first works and first love to the fullest degree. Like:
All things common
No respect of persons
Complete equality (meaning that if you know of someone living a lesser quality of life, then you should be doing all you can to be equal and have absolutely no abundance until we all do)
No personal possessions but God (your time isn't your own, your resources are not your own, your family is not your own, etc, but this would require voting/casting lots)

You get my point, but I would guess that those who are sick are not trying for all of these, and therefore are still learning like all of us. I may get sick again, but I don't think so, because I really don't think I'm under the power of any but God.

1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.