6 6 6 the mark of the beast

[webchatter]

Yes it could be both a spiritual mark and a physical mark. What if someone worshipped this beast then died before the physical mark was given in order to buy or sell? Either would send them to hell according to the Scriptures.
A you tube video, maybe walid shoebat?, shows a differnt explanation than i'd heard. Rev. was written in greek, & when translated, the original manuscript looked like the greek symbols for 600, 60, & 6. I would like to see a copy of that manuscript as it was originally written, anybody?
The greek symbols for 600, 60, & 6, look like the Muslim insignia for Allah, sideways, which they wear on bandanas as armbands, or across their foreheads.

 

[Katy-follower]

Has anyone thought about this....

Rev 13:17: "the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name"
(it could be one of the 3)


Rev 16:2: "the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image"
(Here it says that some have the mark and some worship his image)

Katy Rev 14:11 says, "...and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, AND whoever receiveth THE MARK of his name." From an earlier post it sounded as if it was okay to receive the mark as long as you do not worship the beast.

No, never did I say that it's ok to take the mark at all. I'm not sure how you read that from my post? As a christian, why would I support this?

I was only pointing out that scripture says that no one can buy or sell without the MARK, the NAME or the NUMBER of his name, suggesting that there may be one of three ways to receive it. It looks like two groups are mentioned in Rev 16:2 - those who received the mark, and those who worshiped his image, as it says "and those who". Both equally bad. Interesting.

In the King James version it says "and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image"

 

[Anonimous]

Revelation 13:16

No. It says he causeth (will make) all to receive it. It will be compulsary. But, nobody can actually make you take it. It will a choice ta accept it or not. But, there will be a consequence for accepting it. I have seen comments today saying it can be accepted as long as you don't mean it in your heart. Wrongo. It is a conscience decision to disobey God as He says all who receive it will tormented day and night forever and ever (Rev 14:11). I have allso see a comment that says it would be okay to take the mark as long as you do not worship the beast (wrongo). (also Rev 14:11). Also, the mark is an etching, scratch, stamp) as in a sign of servitude (See Strongs Greek #5480). When Jesus was telling John all this if He thought the mark wasn't anything to be concerned about He would probably not have mentioned it.

I do not consider myself a scholar by any means. I have only been a Christian for not quite 2 years now. But, sometimes I feel that the Holy Spirit just testifies to our spirit about what is right.

 

[Anonimous]

peterT---finally someone else sees it. Not everyone receives the mark. The AC will try to make everyone get it but he can not make anyone take it. It has to be a willingness to show loyalty to the antichrist. Those who do not will be killed. Now, I don't think that means on the spot...maybe. But, eventually everyone will need to get on board and with the program. I think eventually it will come to the point where yopu take it or die. I think by then they will know that most who refuse will be christians.

 

[Anonimous]

I also believe this will be a physical mark becasue of the info above. According to Strongs "mark" is an etching, scratch, or something physical to allegiance or servitude.

 

[TruthFromFrank]

what if it means if any man thinks (forehead) or does(hand) the things of the devil? what if that is "receiving the mark"?

Looking at the receiving of a silicon chip/mark of the Beast. If it is a silicon chip that needs to be inserted below the skin, can you imagine the expense to produce this chip +/- 6 Billion of them, obviously all faultless. That is material plus testing etc etc. Then there is the middle man to implant this which will also cost a lot of money and don't forget, the computers that need to be built to keep all the data, the power losses and associated computer problems. What happens if the computers are down, even for one second? What happens to those chips that become faulty, they then need to be replaced. Do you think for one moment that the Sunday worshipers will opt for this chip? I doubt it because they believe that they are right and will not have the chip inserted as they do not want the mark of the Beast on their forehead and hand. There are to many associated problems with the implantation. This whole setup will be too big of a problem to implement and maintain and I don't think it will be feasible.


I think that your explanation is the best so far.
The Beast that has the number 666 and it has been proven to be the Roman Catholic Church. In the old days letters had values and if the name of the church was written in Hebrew, Latin or Greek, and the values were attached to the letters and added, you would get 666 an all cases.
Why would the Church then be classified as the Beast could be asked.
Simply because they are the ones that changed God's Law and still teach the lie from the pulpit. The main Lie is the holding of the Sunday as the Holy Day and by looking at the Sunday keepers today, they are world wide, billions of them. No wonder it is called the Beast.
Your way of thinking that the man thinks, extends to visualizing, believing and be convinced is the mark on the forehead and it does not mean that there has to be a silicon chip inserted to identify this person. Just the way he thinks and believes confirms this mark of the Beast.
The same applies to the way the man acts, by doing things according to his thoughts, understanding and beliefs, is the mark on his hand, and again it is not a silicon chip that is inserted below the skin to identify this person. Just by looking at his action he identifies himself to the outsider.

This idea is much simpler and makes more sense and is visible by any outsider who is not a Sunday worshiper. Just park your car outside the church and view all those who enters.

 

[TruthFromFrank]

I also believe this will be a physical mark becasue of the info above. According to Strongs "mark" is an etching, scratch, or something physical to allegiance or servitude.

Maybe the Strongs is outdated and needs to be updated?

 

[Yet]

I have an opinion. A guess. 666 could simply be code for a name that John did not want use lest the authorities that be come crashing down on him....put him to death. Nothing magical or mysterious about it.

 

[Sjwho2]

The mark of the beast was in reference to the Roman emperor Nero.

Seriously....read your history for once.

 

[Agricola]

I study Roman history and I can see no connection to 666 being Nero. Of course if you subscribe to various theology which claims that we are already in the millenium rule and Christs second coming has happened but spiritually and the church has replaced the Jews, then yes you will make claims such as this.

I see no evidence around me that this has happened yet, maybe you should read more about the meaning of 666, imperfect and the number of man, along with 777 which is perfection and Christ.

 

[Shubee]

Some say that it is NOT a mark in the flesh but in the spirit.
What do you think?

I think 666 is a reference to character. See A New Interpretation of 666.

 

[4enlightment]

I have an opinion. A guess. 666 could simply be code for a name that John did not want use lest the authorities that be come crashing down on him....put him to death. Nothing magical or mysterious about it.

The contextual connection between the Number 8 and the Name of Jesus is amplified in this, one of the greatest alphanumeric identities linking the Greek and Hebrew languages to each other and the central doctrine of historic Christianity:

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The many numinous ramifications of this Number are discussed in the Gematria Reference under the Number 888.
Spoke 8 - Symbolic Meaning of the Number Eight

 

[iamsoandso]

would God hide the very thing that you need to know to keep from having the plagues set upon you? Is this something that is actually hidden from plain sight? Is all of the fate of mankind left to a generation,among many generations waiting for a clever man to unlock and all who are bright enough to hearken unto?,,,,Stop focusing on the number(or) the name of the beast(or) the mark of the beast.

Focus on this (rev.13,12),,"first beast whose deadly wound was healed",,,look where he was when the book of rev was written,,,(rev.17;8),,"shall ascend out of the bottomless pit",,So you know he was here,then was not(he was in the pit at the writing of the book of Revelations),,,and that he was going to "ascend out of the pit afterward",,,,,,,,,,,,So you are looking for a mark,name,number of his name,,,"that applies to those who lived before he was in the pit(Adam to the cross),,,and was in the pit(because of the cross),,,and rises afterwards(from the pit),,and all those who lived from that point until today shall anwser for.

That is we are looking for "ONE POINT IN TIME WHEN IT WILL EXIST",,,,and the scriptures are telling us there is actually only "ONLY ONE POINT IN TIME THAT IT WILL NOT EXIST",,,And then after the end of the worlds history it will never exist again.

 

[2Thewaters]

I think 666 is a reference to character. See A New Interpretation of 666.

you cant buy and sell with character so it is not just that
it is character AND A MARK IN YOUR HAND

 

[2Thewaters]

It is a mark that tests each person

without that mark you will not be able to buy or sell anything
those who take it can buy or sell
those who refuse it are not able to buy or sell
they will be hungry and cold

so

there must abe a mark implanted in each person by choice
which will allow them to buy or sell

if you take anything in your hand or forehead that is needed to b uy or sell
you will be cast into the lake of fire

for along with this mark goes the IMAGE of the beast
image is IDOL
the idol of the beast
idol is domething manmade

if you worship something MANMADE then you take the mark of the beast also

never worship on anything MANMADE

always worship on GODS MADE day
never on a man made day

Worship what GOD made
dont worship what MAN MADE

know any days man made and God did not make?

 

[Atwood]

6 6 6 is wrong; The number is χξϛ

If you check your Bible, the number actually is not 666. It is six hundred sixty-six. The Greek letter for 6 is digamma or stigma, written sometimes as F. In ancient papyri I have seen it written as c, like a small c, the same BTW as sigma. You will probably see stigma with a little hook under the c in modern Greek discussions of this number-letter, but I saw it in papyri with no hook.

At any rate in Greek you may not write six hundred sixty-six as FFF or ccc. The number-letters don't have place value as in our modern Arabic number system. The following is how six hundred sixty-six may be written in Greek: χξϛ. The repetition of one letter 3 times will not make six hundred sixty-six.

As to the mark, I see no reason why it cannot be made in the future with a tatoo device, even so simple as a needle & India ink.

I should explain that Greek fonts have changed a lot over the years. The font style of letters we see today in modern printed Greek books is different from ancient Greek font. (The same is true is you look back at older English manuscripts, where for example s may look like a cursive f.)

 

[Shubee]

you cant buy and sell with character so it is not just that
it is character AND A MARK IN YOUR HAND

No. The Scripture says, "He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

Any of those will do. All it takes is having the mark, or the name or the number.

To illustrate, consider the Hitler loyalty oath but just replace Hitler's name with the name of antichrist. "I pledge eternal allegiance to Adolf Hitler. I pledge unconditional obedience to him and the Fuehrers appointed by him."

Not all Germans loyal to Hitler took this pledge. However, if in your heart you wanted to obey Hitler unconditionally or were too terrified to oppose Hitler, that's all that counted.

Anyone that openly opposes the antichrist or opposes what he stands for or opposes the government for applauding him will be a marked man, unable to buy or sell.

 

[2Thewaters]

Some say that it is NOT a mark in the flesh but in the spirit.
What do you think?


Rv13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

If it is in the spirit how does it stop us from buying and selling?

Rv14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, .

ask hollywood
ask the bankers
ask the pope
ask the media
see what they say

then
know that that is NOT IT




The best way is to ask the Word of God
the BIBLE says:

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


it is something that allows you to buy and sell
and without it yo cannot buy or sell.

you cant go to walmart and buy with spiritual things,
you have to have money


revelation clarifies
Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.


its about merchandise and covetousness

Rev 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:


Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.






its all about merchandise
buying
selling
mark in hand to do so
RFID coming soon

 

[2Thewaters]

Also Isaiah 24 expands it

it says the BANKS and their sytem
the buyers and lenders and onyone taking loans or giving loans....


Bible says we are not to have loans
many times

and yet
the merchants developed this lifestyle of credit...
this is babylon